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Is 541 yards long range?




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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Is 541 yards long range?




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It's longer than my longest which was 527 on a rockchuck. Hit it in the rump and exited under the chin with a Savage .223 firing seventy-five grain A-Max.


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For a 22 LR it is.


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It all depends on the individual and their capabilities. There will always be someone bigger and better and those who will scoff at whatever ya say as if it is childs play. Keep shooting, keep working to get better. Ya dont always need to compare yourself to other people. If it is a lot farther than you have taken game before and ya did it successfully and intelligently than kudos!


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It depends on shooter's ability, caliber/bullet selection, game involved, terrain involved and assuming the shooter is not too lazy (unethical) to check for a possibly wounded(bigger animals don't always show sign of a hit) animal. It is our responsibility as hunters/sportsman to determine what is "too" long!!!! memtb


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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Target shooters came up with these definitions a long time ago, so I use them.For non formal target shooters the lines are blurry.

Short range is zero to 300. Basically point blank.

Midrange is 300-600. You won't win any matches being sloppy but you can land some good hits without an advanced degree in wind reading. You can probably read the velocity out of the manual, or side of the box, scratch your nuts a couple of times and not embarrass yourself too badly. The running joke amoung those who shoot at my little private range is you can take just about anything worth shooting that is zeroed at 100 yards; dial 8 minutes of elevation, aim at the windy side of my 500 yard rectangular plate and hit it somewhere.Its faster than setting up the chronograph.

Long range is over 600. You better start doing a lot of things right starting with believing those 500 yard results.

Some toss in an ELR at over 1000.



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It's just about at the limit for my Sheridan Blue Streak. I think I could push it beyond that if it had a scope. laugh


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Is 541 yards long range?

For90% of hunters and their equipment, and under actual hunting conditions, the answer is Yes. Especially for a first shot kill.


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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On a live animal under field conditions?

Yes.


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For me and my current scopes it is.

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There would be no hard rules to follow on this.
It could in fact be a very long shot even for an experienced shooter given poor shooting conditions.
But then the experienced shooter would be apt to pass on those shots.
With the proper equiptment however, shots at that distance and beyond are far easier, even for the less than the best of shooters.

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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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It's folly to apply standard 'range' terminology to hunting. BobNH is correct.


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
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On a live animal under field conditions?

Yes.



I agree with this. Prepare for this "long range" shot, but try to get closer. I have a 7mag that is dialed in for 500 with no issue and I killed an antelope yesterday at 160ish. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.


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I dont buy into the live animal thing or field conditions thing. You are either practiced/capable of the shot or you are not. Heartbeats don't direct bullets.....

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I can shoot eggs at 600 yards. My longest deer kill is 626 yards. No coincidence. But I very much enjoy the challenge of getting a whole lot closer....

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Here's how I look at it,

If you are having to make accurate range determinations, and make calculated corrections for drop/windage, you are applying the fundamentals of long range shooting.

If you are close enough to be within the PBR of your weapon, that's close range.

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Originally Posted by 2muchgun
I dont buy into the live animal thing or field conditions thing. You are either practiced/capable of the shot or you are not. Heartbeats don't direct bullets.....



Bull shidt.

You just firmly established your BG hunting experience .. Thanks. It's what I suspected.

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Originally Posted by BobinNH
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Is 541 yards long range?




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On a live animal under field conditions?

Yes.




I agree with Bob. You almost have to have the ability to read the animal as well as the wind, along with setting up for the shot. My longest shot on a mulie buck was 700 yards. 1 bullet through the heart and the buck went down without a hitch. Rifle was an extremely accurate 7mm rem mag model 70 "hunting rifle" using "hunting" bullets. Rifle was set up with a "proven" scope that tracked excellent and practiced at that range and beyond. 1 shot/ 1 kill. 2 years earlier and I did the same thing with a 300 WSM at 600 yards... To answer the OP's question: Yes, I believe 541 yards is long range on a live game animal. No question about it..


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