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LMAO. I will go tell the 2 Boone and Crockett deer on my wall and the rest too.

You say some really dumb $hit sometimes Bob.

Heartbeats don't direct bullets........

Distance is distance. A long shot on a pie plate is a long shot on a critter.

Of course I am sure you have read into it and overcomplicated matters.....

I know a lot of BG hunters with world wide experience. Some post here.

Not a single one regards a 500 yard+ shot at an unwounded BG animal as anything other than a "long shot".None of them take it lightly.

John Burns said on here quite a while back, that, among honest men, 500 yards is a long shot.

When I hear someone say that 500 yards is a chip shot without regard to the field conditions he's faced with, I suspect he has not done all that much BG hunting.

That you have killed two B&C whitetails tells me you are lucky and not much else.


Since you think that 500 yards is such a chip shot at an unwounded BG animal, I assume you've killed quite a few elk, mule deer,and other western mountain game at over 500 yards?

Dammit Bob.

My hands are half covered in blood from dragging a deer right now. So is my phone now, thanks to you

As I stated, you are obviously reading into things. Where did I say it wasn't a long shot? Where did I call it a chip shot?

What I said was one is either practiced at said distance/conditions, or they are not. I gotta go.....

I get it. We don't need to take anything into consideration on 500 yard shots at unwounded BG animals.They are as mundane and routine as 200 yard shots I suppose.

Wow, I didn't mean to start a ruckus. That's the Internet, I guess.

I practice a lot, out to 600 yards. That's a looong way to me. Tuesday 10/4 I took my longest ever shot on an animal, 541 yards. We were hunting mule deer in an alfalfa field and that's as close as I could get. One shot, 140 Partition, 7mm-08. Broke the right scapula going in, double lung, busted the left shoulder knuckle (dang it) on the way out, did not recover the bullet.





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Great job! You knew this was coming....got pics?

In my opinion long range starts at 600 yards. Distance doesn't nessecarily define difficulty of the shot. I remember I was unable to hold still enough (at 100 yards) to keep a 6X6 bull elk in my scope because I was so winded. I took an antelope with one shot at 777 yards with no problem.
What ever distance one chooses to define long range is only one aspect of the equation n

I never said that either. Not sure why that is the impression you got. Anyway, If I was practiced and familiar with my rifle and at target shooting
at 541 yds. then I would thake the shot. Like I said earlier, I was well practiced at 600 and killed one at 626.

To me, yeah, I would have to call that a long shot. Being as it is about as far as I would ever care to shoot at a game animal.

It is my opinion, and my opinion only, but after 500-600 yds, things start to get a whole lot "sportier" in terms of wind and such. Plus, I have more fun trying to get close, and will not take a questionable shot at an animal. But there are others who will shoot much further than that. Like John Burns and his game wounding buddies......

Some can do it. Glad you realize your pay-grade...

IMHO it's not so much what you're shooting at (animal vs steel) (although a big buck or bull would make a difference) but more about the time you have to prepare and the stability of your shooting position. With steel, you have plenty of time and normally a good platform to get situated just how you want.

Not so much with improvised field positions on the side of a mountain or on a cactus-filled prairie with an animal that's not interested in staying put.

True. The distance isn't the only factor but some folks don't understand the,especially those who have never done it. There are a lots of other factors involved in taking or passing a 541 yard shot.

Is it 'long range"? Of course it is.

Human error at 540 yards is greater than at 240, a lot more to consider in terms of wind drift (which may be different in velocity and direction, than it is at 240), position and location of animal, time of day, likelihood of immediate recovery, distance of animal from screening cover and the opportunity for follow up shots if required...lots of variables, and if they don't take these things into consideration, dealing ONLY with the "distance is distance" mentality, Im sorry.....


They don't have a clue what they are doing.

For here in Wyoming, yesterday, it's a chip shot , no wind ,good light clear but not bright.
For today here a 350 yard shot would be long range, foggy ,switching, swirling winds 15-45 mph with sharp drop offs.
Depending on experience, practice level and atmospheric conditions " Long Range" varies.
Just my humble opinion.

Never been tough to cypher who shoots and who don't. Pardon my long having been afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess.

Firstly,one simply MUST have the mechanical means,to arrange POA/POI and ALL reliably miss that constant. Hint.

Secondly,not all chamberings/boolits are equal in their requisite needs,at a given distance,in regards to trajectory/windage corrections. Re-hint.

Thirdly,most here are guessing WILDLY at best and "own" neither the skillset or tools to arrange something sooooooooooo fhuqking pedestrian at it's "worst". I'd surmise that only half the audience can clap their hands,on a first try. Hint.

Now for the coupla astute gents that savvy and are insulted with this asinine conjencture,I feel your fhuqking PAIN,with this Drooling Dumbfhuqkery and am rather ate ease in illustrating the "impossible".

Let's start/stop with 22LR and nothing much over the 550yd line,if only for conversation. We'll not "dabble" atmospheric conditions(that much),ammo "selections",barrel tuners or gunning that "many" lots of ammo. Then again...

One should muse erector latitude/accuracy. Hint.

Track Record RINK

550yds+ with a 22LR.

Pardon The Splendor

Gunning new Lots of ammo for R&D at the 100yd line.

In the .3's

Don't be too "surprised".

Fhuqk SK

Norma MATCH Rocks




Not too tough to gun clay birds at the 500yd line with a 22LR,via the gent with a clue. Few can begin to savvy that which is possible,with good riggin' and a skillstet to match.



Just sayin'.

Hint.

no

There are two basic sets of individuals that use rifles; shooters and hunters....and there is much difference betwixt the two types. Hunters don't normally go through thousands of rounds a year like shooters do therefore they are less inclined to have conquered the skill sets necessary to hit the longer range targets. Some individuals are blessed with the fact that they are hunters and shooters and are highly capable of making the longer shots! Just because the necessary skills have been acquired and are utilized oft times on a weekly or daily basis does not mean that the more adept individuals should attempt the longer shots. CONDITIONS & CIRCUMSTANCES dictate whether or not a shot should be made and if an individual doesn't have enough commonsense to ascertain these 'go-no go' situations it would be best if they stayed home and went bowling!!

Not all the time... but as Rick notes, its shot to shot and having the ability to know when or when not to is important.

I've said it before, I've seen some conditions when I'd have a hard time convincing myself to shoot at 200 yards condition wise.

There are other times when 1000 is a gimme.

Assuming a few other things...

1,000 a gimme. Damn you're good.

Probably that, as well as being prepared by doing his homework

I know that part....which is why I simply answered "yes".

We shouldn't have to explain that to anyone with any shooting experience.