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It does, and I don't think much of it.

Luckily there is a button on the dash to disable it.


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Are you worried about the turbos? I think I'd chicken out and get the 5.0.

I've read you can't check the oil on the 2.7 for a period of time(15-30 minutes) because the dipstick will read low until all the oil drains back into the pan due the start/stop feature.



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So what do you have to do to get a pickup with a manual transmission these days?


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Originally Posted by Dutch
So what do you have to do to get a pickup with a manual transmission these days?


You can order anything you want from the factory.


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Originally Posted by Dutch
So what do you have to do to get a pickup with a manual transmission these days?
As far as I know, Dodge is the last one with it available. You're unlikely to find one on a lot, though. You'd likely have to order it.


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Pretty sure Ram is the only full size available with a manual trans, and that is only in the HD series. I am unaware of any 1/2 ton truck available with a manual. I've seen things on the web hinting that the new Nissan Titan will have a manual option but do't know for sure.


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As long as we're talking about the Ram, it also can be bought with factory air bags. AFAIK, it's the only one with them available. I have them on my '08 2500 and my partner has them on his '07. They're an option on the '16, too.


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As long as we're talking about the Ram, it also can be bought with factory air bags. AFAIK, it's the only one with them available. I have them on my '08 2500 and my partner has them on his '07. They're an option on the '16, too.


Must have missed something. My 2000 Tundra has air bags.


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Originally Posted by Whiptail

Are you worried about the turbos? I think I'd chicken out and get the 5.0.

I've read you can't check the oil on the 2.7 for a period of time(15-30 minutes) because the dipstick will read low until all the oil drains back into the pan due the start/stop feature.


Not worried about anything, I just find the auto shut down feature silly.


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Originally Posted by Dutch
So what do you have to do to get a pickup with a manual transmission these days?


Can't do it on a 1/2 ton.


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Or a 3/4 ton...or a 1 ton, unless you buy a Dodge..and then only if you are OK with a derated diesel.

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Originally Posted by liliysdad
Or a 3/4 ton...or a 1 ton, unless you buy a Dodge..and then only if you are OK with a derated diesel.


And will settle for a dodge. wink


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Originally Posted by pal
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As long as we're talking about the Ram, it also can be bought with factory air bags. AFAIK, it's the only one with them available. I have them on my '08 2500 and my partner has them on his '07. They're an option on the '16, too.


Must have missed something. My 2000 Tundra has air bags.
I hadn't heard that the Tundra offered them. It doesn't surprise me, though. Tundra doesn't come in a 3/4 ton but they try to push their 1/2 ton off as one. Adding air bags would be a big boost in that direction.


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I have a 99 F250 Super Duty. super cab 5.4, 5 -speed,no A/C, vinyl floors, it didn't even come with a back seat. I love my truck. I just turned 218k on the original motor.
I will buy another one when this one dies.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
As long as we're talking about the Ram, it also can be bought with factory air bags. AFAIK, it's the only one with them available. I have them on my '08 2500 and my partner has them on his '07. They're an option on the '16, too.


Must have missed something. My 2000 Tundra has air bags.
I hadn't heard that the Tundra offered them. It doesn't surprise me, though. Tundra doesn't come in a 3/4 ton but they try to push their 1/2 ton off as one. Adding air bags would be a big boost in that direction.


I have an feeling ya'll two are talking about completely different kinds of airbags..

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You think? smile



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I love plain jane work trucks. I wish Chevy still made the W/T like they did in the early-mid 90s. I have a 92 2wd with the 4.3 v6 that still gets 19-20 mpg with closing in on 250k of not gentle miles.

An updated version crank windows and manual locks, rubber floor, 5 sp manual, basic radio and 6L V8 in a 2500 package would trip my trigger. I have a cousin with one just like that, that started life as a fleet vehicle. I can't remember the year, late 2000's I think


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Got a friend that remembers when dual airbags meant he had his wife and MIL in the truck.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
I love plain jane work trucks. I wish Chevy still made the W/T like they did in the early-mid 90s. I have a 92 2wd with the 4.3 v6 that still gets 19-20 mpg with closing in on 250k of not gentle miles.



I had one in a 4wd version for a work truck. It was a very trouble free truck. I wish I could say that about the Chevy's I actually had to pay for.


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Originally Posted by liliysdad
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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
As long as we're talking about the Ram, it also can be bought with factory air bags. AFAIK, it's the only one with them available. I have them on my '08 2500 and my partner has them on his '07. They're an option on the '16, too.


Must have missed something. My 2000 Tundra has air bags.
I hadn't heard that the Tundra offered them. It doesn't surprise me, though. Tundra doesn't come in a 3/4 ton but they try to push their 1/2 ton off as one. Adding air bags would be a big boost in that direction.


I have an feeling ya'll two are talking about completely different kinds of airbags..
That's exactly what Toyota does. Several years ago we were truck shopping and we needed a 3/4 ton. We looked at the Tundra and they gave us a big spiel about how the Tundra's load capacity was supposedly as heavy as a real 3/4. They had videos, etc that they wanted us to watch. They very much were trying to sell it as a 3/4 ton.


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