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Thanks Fred. It just ain't fair when the animals try to hide behind brush. It ain't for me, but maybe game could ok it for senior hunters and disabled hunters. How are the steaks from that cow. I'm hooked on the BP elk killing. It's like bow hunting with a gun. Fun times.
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Grr...scopes, rangefinders, spitzer bullets killing hunting...darn kids...
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How are the steaks from that cow. I'm hooked on the BP elk killing. It's like bow hunting with a gun. Fun times.
Good. Shhhshhh.
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If it works as described, it's a great tool for game recovery. Using it to locate game while hunting crosses a line for me personally.
You gotta know that some azzhole will use it to take a shot at something he can't see; high-tech version of the classic "sound shots" guys have been taking since the days of Alley Oop. I'm old enough to remember when people said that about scopes. Some people think using electronic hearing protection is cheating. I bet there were people who said the same thing about smokeless powder. We have people today who complain about guys who can make long range shot on the first shot every time. I'm sure you get the idea. So then, anything goes because of what some people said about scopes? I'm waiting til they come out with the drone-mounted model. I won't have to leave camp to do my scouting. Won't that be grand! If it's legal and you want to. I go hunting for my pleasure and I want others to do what they want.
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Most states already have regulations regarding the use of "electronic devices" as an aid in taking game.
There are no "ethical questions" for ethical people. The unethical will do what they want regardless.
Other than finding downed animals I see no practical value for hunting.
For self defense or security purposes it might be worth having.
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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Thanks Fred. It just ain't fair when the animals try to hide behind brush. It ain't for me, but maybe game could ok it for senior hunters and disabled hunters. Doubt it here in Pa, nor would I want it. In Pa, as senior hunters go, the GC's records show the vast majority of hunters no longer purchase a license after 65. To entice more to do so, they have a special early two day season where the over 65 crowd can shoot a Deer with a rifle. However, it can only be a Doe and they have to have a Doe tag. Dates are during the early archery season when any archer can launch an arrow at any Deer. Know of one nice Buck myself so far this season that has been lost to an arrow and obviously there are more. But, they can't let a dwindling number of senior hunters shoot a Buck for a short two day early season. Some strange logic if one wants to entice older hunters to stay in the game. Especially when rules allow the same, perhaps not completely up on their game senior, to shoot at Bucks for an entire long archery season.
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It's not and shouldn't be. Just like spotlighting.
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It's not and shouldn't be. Just like spotlighting. Correct, with the exception of coyote hunting in some states. Further, these things aren't designed to be strapped to a gun. Thermal cameras would be useful in finding downed game shot late in the day, where recovery runs well past shooting hours.
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This thread makes me want to watch Predator again.
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I'd like to try one out. With a range of 600 yards it might work for checking on livestock at night.
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And it might indeed be helpful for looking for a deer after dark when there is no blood.
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Personally, I have no problems with any of those uses. And proponents should have no problem with a ban when you have a tag and a rifle in the field.
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If rifle mounted, this would be the berries for night time coyote and pig hunting..
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Personally, I have no problems with any of those uses. And proponents should have no problem with a ban when you have a tag and a rifle in the field. .....and if the Deer you find is still alive? Or dead? You have to tag it. Addition: Bet a good Deer Dog would beat it hands down. But they are a not allowed here in Pa. Doesn't mean I wouldn't use one if I had to go looking at night. Addition 2: How much thermal does a Deer that has been dead for hours on a cold day throw off. I'll bet the money on the Dog and raise the bet.
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It's not and shouldn't be. Just like spotlighting. Based on what?
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Lot's of corn feeders are sold every year. Spot lights too. Night vision is getting pretty popular. AR's are now being accepted as hunting rifles in some circles.
And yet there's plenty of folks who claim they aren't fair chase or ethical but have no problems driving around spotting game or even shooting game out of a pickup truck or boat.
Just like everything else, it's a tool and it depends on how you use it.
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A lot of corn sold here in Pa but at least here you can't hunt over it. Now a cornfield is different, which does flaw the argument. In Michigan you can have a max of 2gallons over your stand. Wonder how they add it all up to 2 gallons plus? Food plot? 1,000's of gallons if you have the space.
Have said in the past; "Food plots are the modern day version of the ring of fire." Ethical? The vast majority are growing it to attrack Deer and the profit motive is to kill them. Not a cash crop or for the home. I mean how many turnips can one family eat?
A lot of spotlights also, but the law says no gun in the car while spotlighting.
Fair chase and ethics? Again, depends on individual laws. Here you can drive around, spot game from a vehicle and shoot it. As long as you park the vehicle, get out and move 50 yards past the vehicle.
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In Oregon is it illegal to drive around and hunt from your vehicle. I remember one game warden arbitrarily saying he thought if your vehicle is going more than about 15MPH you are probably not "road hunting". You are not allowed to shoot from, on, or across a road; unless you are disabled.
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Headlights can be illegal spotlighting here in Pa. If you pull off the road, cast them on a Deer and have a firearm in the car. Hit the high beams and you may lose your license for an additional year, for that may imply criminal intent of a higher degree.
I guess a bullet going across the road is less dangerous if you are disabled? Go figure....
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It's not and shouldn't be. Just like spotlighting. Based on what? Are you really that dense?
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