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Spruced up my #1 coyote smacker yesterday. Took it apart, cleaned it up, hosed out the Jewell, and gave it a little fresh paint, then topped it off with a different 2.5-10x32 Nightforce.

Took it out today to get it sighted in, and confirm drops to 400, as far as I could go with the recent rain w/o a mud bogger.

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You prefer the 6 over the 6.5?

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Originally Posted by Hondo64d
You prefer the 6 over the 6.5?

Strictly for coyotes....yes.....

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Any significant advantage for one over the other in regards to wind drift? What velocity you get with the 105s?

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Originally Posted by Hondo64d
Any significant advantage for one over the other in regards to wind drift? What velocity you get with the 105s?

This gun runs 105 VLD's at 3030, my 6.5 runs 130 VLD's at 2820 or 123 Amax at 2850. Only half a minute difference in wind at 600, but a full MOA at 1K....advantage 6mm.

I have a 26" Kreiger in 6x47 that runs 105 pointed Hybrids at 3125 that betters the little one by full MOA at any yardage.

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Originally Posted by aalf

Spruced up my #1 coyote smacker yesterday. Took it apart, cleaned it up, hosed out the Jewell, and gave it a little fresh paint, then topped it off with a different 2.5-10x32 Nightforce.

Took it out today to get it sighted in, and confirm drops to 400, as far as I could go with the recent rain w/o a mud bogger.

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You running H4350 under that 105? Ever tried the 115s?

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Originally Posted by Kaiser Norton
You running H4350 under that 105? Ever tried the 115s?

Yes, H-4350, and surprisingly the same load is the best in multiple barrels.

The 115's can be problematic to get to shoot, and the 105's give up little to them with the higher velocity. You never see anyone shooting 115's in 600/1K BR matches for a reason.

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Looks like you are ready.

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And I still haven't gotten mine built yet! Looks like you got it going on, Al! Love seeing your reports.


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Originally Posted by aalf
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Any significant advantage for one over the other in regards to wind drift? What velocity you get with the 105s?

This gun runs 105 VLD's at 3030, my 6.5 runs 130 VLD's at 2820 or 123 Amax at 2850. Only half a minute difference in wind at 600, but a full MOA at 1K....advantage 6mm.

I have a 26" Kreiger in 6x47 that runs 105 pointed Hybrids at 3125 that betters the little one by full MOA at any yardage.


I may have to give the 6 a try. I sure do like the 6.5. Is one any easier to find a load for than the other?

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Built one for my Grandson 4-5 years ago. It is a very good cartridge.

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Originally Posted by butchlambert1
Built one for my Grandson 4-5 years ago. It is a very good cartridge.

I've had 4 done.....I'm a fan.....

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Originally Posted by Hondo64d
I may have to give the 6 a try. I sure do like the 6.5. Is one any easier to find a load for than the other?

In my experience, I'd say no, of course nothing is an absolute.

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Originally Posted by 257heaven
And I still haven't gotten mine built yet! Looks like you got it going on, Al! Love seeing your reports.

Thanks Steve....you can lead a horse to water, but.....

The 400 yard group was far from a fluke.

100 yard was a .430"
200 yard was a .950" (shanked the 3rd shot low, dammit)
300 yard was a .885"

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Originally Posted by 6MMWASP
Looks like you are ready.

None too soon.....2-3" snow coming this weekend.

Of course, I just washed and waxed the truck....

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Originally Posted by aalf
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Of course, I just washed ans waxed the truck....


That's why it's going to snow!

Nice rig. What stock is that?


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Originally Posted by KDK
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Of course, I just washed and waxed the truck....
That's why it's going to snow!

Nice rig. What stock is that?

Thanks....

Stock is a McMillan Classic with Edge fill, sans paint.

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Al needs to sell me that stock . . . .


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Originally Posted by WiFowler
Al needs to sell me that stock . . . .
Is Hell freezing over ?............ grin

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Aalf how do you compare the 6x47 to the 6dasher?

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Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by WiFowler
Al needs to sell me that stock . . . .
Is Hell freezing over ?............ grin


Not that I'm aware of . . . should it be? grin


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Nice shooting Al !

Hopeing soon to have a 6x47L with a naked edge McM hunter up and running soon.


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Originally Posted by fredjake1
Aalf how do you compare the 6x47 to the 6dasher?

The Dasher adds 150 fps to the BR case, and the 6x47 adds another easy 100.

The Ultimate Coyote Gun was going to be a 6 Dasher, but the Bat VR action was not designed to run BR cases.

The 47 is hardly a concession.....

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We used to see a few 6x47s on the line at Ridgway.
When well handled they can be very competitive.
Most of the guys running them changed over to 6.5x47s for one reason.
Barrel life.
At 2000 rounds a 6.5x47 can still win a match.
Not so with the 6.
That being said I can see myself with a 6x47 vermin getter.

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Originally Posted by dave7mm
We used to see a few 6x47s on the line at Ridgway. When well handled they can be very competitive.
Most of the guys running them changed over to 6.5x47s for one reason. Barrel life.
At 2000 rounds a 6.5x47 can still win a match. Not so with the 6.
That being said I can see myself with a 6x47 vermin getter.

You continually always bring up Ridgeway, where KE plays a role and you have to knock the steel down, in addition to accuracy. A 6 Dasher is still competitive with 2K down the bore.

If consistent balls out BR accuracy was the only criteria, it's PPC for point blank, and the 6 Dasher for the rest. Everything else is a trade off.

This thread is about my #1 coyote gun.......I have it's twin in a 6.5x47.......

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I bring up Ridgway because its like cartridge dog years.
40 rounds for score plus sighters will show which rounds hold up over time and which ones foul out pretty quickly.
Sitting shoulder to shoulder I see no difference in KE between a 140g in a 6.5 and a 105g in a 6mm on a -47 based case.At 1000 yards.
Noticeable difference when you run the 105 out of a Dasher.
Targets fall over MUCH slower.
My Dasher only lasted 750 rounds.Toast.
Granted it was 750 rounds of dammed fine accuracy.Very easy to tune.After 750 I could not break 50%.
BRs and Dashers do very well in decent conditions.
But at 2 oclock in the afternoon.
You'll be looking for something else.
As you said, this thread is about your #1 yote gun.
As I said.
I like it.

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Originally Posted by dave7mm
My Dasher only lasted 750 rounds.Toast.
Granted it was 750 rounds of dammed fine accuracy.Very easy to tune. After 750 I could not break 50%.
BRs and Dashers do very well in decent conditions, but at 2 oclock in the afternoon you'll be looking for something else.

Baloney.....I've shot a Dasher for far too long to believe any part of this.

FYI, I set the IBS/World record six target & ten target agg records with a Dasher barrel with over 2K rounds on it running 105's at 3075, hardly a barrel saving load.

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Al, I think you might need to tweak the load to eliminate some vertical <grin>



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So, is the new Norma Dasher brass proving to be of good quality? As good as Lapua BR brass?

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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
So, is the new Norma Dasher brass proving to be of good quality? As good as Lapua BR brass?

I haven't tried any at this point, as I still have a stash of gold boxed BR brass. Most reports seem to be positive. I would probably get a reamer to shoot it full length though, if so pushed.

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Originally Posted by aalf


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I'm willing to bet the staples around that plate are all measured to be equal distance apart. grin

Good chootin'...


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Originally Posted by SKane
I'm willing to bet the staples around that plate are all measured to be equal distance apart. grin
Good chootin'...

Just good with the hammer stapler.....while hopefully keeping the digits blood free..... cry

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Fine shooting & great rifle.

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Originally Posted by Creeker
Fine shooting & great rifle.

Thanks....I wouldn't change a thing....

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Awesome, I shoot 39.6 IMR 4451 with 105 burgers , hybrid for F-Class and hunting105's for hunting , both shoot perfect , fantastic Cartridge! Great job!! Shot my antelope @634 this year, almost like cheating.


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