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Penn State does not get in. And there are four teams in -- all of which are very happy they do not have to play Penn State.

Alabama -- In. They just kept winning.
Clemson -- In. A conference champion but won the title game against a #23 ranked team by only a touchdown, which makes Penn State's 7-point win against #6 Wisconsin a better quality win. And they got narrowly beaten by Pitt, who also narrowly beat Penn State.
Ohio State -- In, but didn't win their conference championship, didn't win their division title, didn't beat Penn State. And Penn State is now a much better team than they were the day they played Ohio State.
Washington -- In. But they never beat a top 10 team, and had a late-season conference loss at home against the #2 team in the other half of their conference USC.
Penn State -- Out. They won the toughest division in the toughest conference, beat the #7 team in a vicious second half comeback, beat Ohio State (at best the third-place team in their conference), won 9 straight, getting better every week, and though they lost to Michigan big, that was a long time ago and even the selection committee has PSU ranked ahead of Michigan. Plainly, the selection committee values early season games with more weight than the improvement of a team over time, so if you lose early it doesn't matter how good a team you become.

Here's my question: Could Washington win the Big Ten title? Very, very doubtful. Yet they're in. The selection committee said a long time ago that there won't be two teams from the same conference in the final four. If that's what they wanted, why is the B1G conference winner not in the mix. When the playoffs were set up, this wasn't supposed to happen.

Again, four teams have been selected, all of which are glad they won't have to play Penn State.

Steve.

What's with all of this "damn near got beat" BS? Every team out there except for Bama and WMU "almost got beat!" Especially PSU and tOSU. And most especially in their final games.

Good Grief!

Also, were I WMU I'd be major pissed.

Someone (maybe OO?) posted an 8 team scenario that sounded perfect and tailor made for this scenario. Maybe this will be the impetus for that. You know the committee will discuss it today. They have to because the media's definitely going to ask about it.

Apparently Everyday Hunter does...

The best case scenario for thw National Championship is Ohio State and Alabama.

Anyone promoting anything else is either butt hurt in some fashion or has an agenda (scared).

8-team playoff . . . here's how it would work this year


I just watched the ESPN Game Day interview with Big 10 commissioner Jim Delany. When asked to explain the selection committee protocol for selecting the four semi-finalists, and how important a conference champion was compared to "the four best teams," Delany iterated that four years ago he lobbied for selecting the four best conference champions for the playoff, but "we lost that election, and decided to go with the four best teams, which I'm fine with." (Boos from the PSU and Wisonsin fans could be heard in the background.) So now, it is total subjective touchy-feely, make up selection criteria as you go, eye-test BS. Basically, Delany was a gibbering fool trying to bring clarity to what exactly is the objective criteria to be declared one of four "best" teams.

So let me help out the CFP selection process. The CFP committee could still be used to seed the "best 16 teams" in the country for an 8-team, on the field playoff, but within a structured, objective and transparent framework, that heavily relies on the results of games played during the entire season. All of the eventual Top 16 teams would play on "Championship weekend, (which started last night) and the winners of those eight games would move into the 8-team Quarter finals of the CFP. The fair, objective framework would require the five conference champions from the Power 5 conferences, plus the top ranked (as decided by the CFP committee) Group of 5 conference champion. That leaves the four highest (CFP committee) ranked "non-conference champions" Wild Card teams to go against each other in two "play-in" games, which are played on championship weekend.

So how would it look this year?

1. Western Michigan beat Ohio (MAC Champion - Top Group of 5 winner)
2. Washington beat Colorado (PAC 12 Champion)
3. Oklahoma beat Oklahoma St (Big 12 Champion)
4. Alabama beat Florida (SEC Champion)
5. Penn St. beat Wisconsin (Big 10 Champion)
6. Clemson beat Virginia Tech (ACC Champion)

WILD CARD Play-in games (Played at the higher seed home stadium)
7. USC vs Ohio State
8. Michigan vs Wisconsin

See how this blend of objective, on the field results can be blended with the subjective eye-test criteria?

Pedophile State University shouldn't even be allowed to play college football, but given that they do, I'd rather see them in the playoffs than Urban "crier" Myer and his guys. Especially since Pedophile State already beat them. 'Bama would beat PSU by 60.

Good game

How about Saban just playing against a Big Ten team he hasnt won against?

How much would they beat tOSU by?

Also, the serendipity of the 16 team playoff is you don't have to listen to the dum azzes on ESPN flappin' their jaws about who is the best team. It is already organized to be settled on the field of play. Herbsteit, Davis, Pollack, and Dinich to name just a few

No, the one team that was 12-0, Alabama and the three teams that were 11-1, Clemson, Ohio State and Washington.

Yes I know that Western Michigan was also 12-0, but they play in a far weaker conference than any of the above teams and have no strength of schedule. The MAC is where Big 10 teams go to schedule their cupcake games. It's a terrific achievement to go unbeaten in any conference, but they didn't beat a single ranked team, much less a top 10 team. It's going to be interesting to see them play in the Cotton Bowl against Wisconsin.

It's amazing that the committee says how they are going to evaluate the teams and when they do exactly what they say they are going to do people tear their hair and rend their garments because the committee doesn't evaluate the teams they way THEY think they should. For the last time: conference championships are a poor way to compare teams at the national level. That's why the results don't always favor conference winners.

I'd say 14 at least.

I like it!!

Galloway too.

Once again, "My kingdom for a sarcasm icon".

Yeah I forgot him, He is horrible, as well as Robert Smith, Jason Sehorn, and Kevin Carter.

The College Football Playoff pairings are set.

After months of debate and 14 weeks of games, the committee came down with its final decision Sunday.

No. 1 Alabama will play No. 4 Washington in the Peach Bowl.

No. 2 Clemson and No. 3 Ohio State will face off in the Fiesta Bowl.




The final committee Top 25:

1. Alabama (13-0)

2. Clemson (12-1)

3. Ohio State (11-1)

4. Washington (12-1)

5. Penn State (11-2)

6. Michigan (10-2)

7. Oklahoma (10-2)

8. Wisconsin (10-3)

9. Southern California (9-3)

10. Colorado (10-3)

11. Florida State (9-3)

12. Oklahoma State (9-3)

13. Louisville (9-3)

14. Auburn (8-4)

15. Western Michigan (13-0)

16. West Virginia (10-2)

17. Florida (8-4)

18. Stanford (9-3)

19. Utah (8-4)

20. LSU (7-4)

21. Tennessee (8-4)

22. Virginia Tech (9-4)

23. Pittsburgh (8-4)

24. Temple (10-3)

25. Navy (9-3)

Two teams will be very embarrassed by Alabama, the first being Washington..

This new system is no less of a cluster [bleep] than the old one. I could care less who gets in but how do you not win your conference and get a shot at the title?

Yes it is and will continue to be. Take it to a top 8 team playoff bracket and the majority of the issues will likely be resolved. Eliminate the conference championships and put in a 16 team bracket and no one can bitch about anything anymore.

A true sport will always be determined by the merits of a team or single athlete. Once you inject subjectivity it becomes a pageant. Computers, judges and especially press writers are awful models for determining the best teams in the country and should stick to dance shows and cheerleading competitions.

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