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Melvin ain't cranky, just particular.



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He and I went around once. Got a little tense, but we worked it out.


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I've had/have a 223, 3-243's, 257 Bob, 260 Rem, 308, rebarelled 6.5 CM (couldn't wait) and 338Fed.

Every one of them killed stuff and most less than MOA.


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Nothing wrong with Kimbers, I like them. Especially the safety vs Nula. I'm not a fan of the Nula safety and its very short, easy throw to off. You may have to mess with them. Even if you do, you end up with a great LW with a Kimber..

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Got Kimber.
Shoots good.
Like it.

Biased!

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It cracks me up that some believe the Montana should bughole or even be MOA when the rifle is not a custom or even a semi-custom, it's simply a factory rifle with *lightweight* as the primary selling point.

There are countless threads where people go to great lengths to get other rifles shooting 2-3" down to 1" and don't entertain the thought of sending it back to the factory.

In my experience technique makes a difference shooting a Montana, my groups tightened up off shooting off the bench, when I firmed my grip on the forearm and pulled it to my shoulder a little tighter than I do with heavier rifles. In comparison, my heavy ass Cooper 22 308 could be shot almost free recoil and bughole.


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Originally Posted by RDW
It cracks me up that some believe the Montana should bughole or even be MOA when the rifle is not a custom or even a semi-custom, it's simply a factory rifle with *lightweight* as the primary selling point.

There are countless threads where people go to great lengths to get other rifles shooting 2-3" down to 1" and don't entertain the thought of sending it back to the factory.

In my experience technique makes a difference shooting a Montana, my groups tightened up off shooting off the bench, when I firmed my grip on the forearm and pulled it to my shoulder a little tighter than I do with heavier rifles. In comparison, my heavy ass Cooper 22 308 could be shot almost free recoil and bughole.


I agree with you completely ......except I don't regard pulling a rifle in tighter as a "special technique". smile

That's simply holding the rifle....

I do exactly the same thing with a 338, 300 magnum or 375 H&H weighing 8.5-9 pounds.




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Pretty much it. Drop any factory action into the same class stock as a Montana and you're essentually at the same starting point, dollar-wise, tweak-wise, and likely accuracy wise.

Except a Tikka, which is a different ball of wax.

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Kinda agree partially:

The sling should be off the rifle, but sometimes for whatever reason, it isn't. This year it wasn't.

Have both Kimber and Nula, and the Nula just shoots better and the dirtier it is the better it seems to shoot. Again for whatever reason. Kimber .300Savage, after the first couple it seems to settle in quickly. Both Douglas barrels.

As far as holding technique, when the Kimber was a .338Fed you had best hold the forend or it was going to jump erratically and the groups showed it. Now that it is a .300Savage I get best groups with a light hold of the forend. But you best not be applying pressure R/L. Straight back or down, and not much of it seems to be what works.

Nula 7mm-08 recoils straight back with less jump than the Kimber. I usually let it free recoil. Since both recoil about the same, it has something to do with the stock design.


Groups I mentioned previously with the Nula. Once it dirties up groups will usually tighten up some. But on average the Kimber is just over MOA and the Nula hangs at .75 or close.

With 1500-1600 rounds the Nula has dropped off a little. and a bunch of them were quick strings of 5 plus. Not very smart, but I always was suprised that rarely did the groups open up when the barrel was smoking hot.

In the field they are equals.

Again, no reason to pound out 10 shot strings. It's what it has been doing for 5-6 years. I could cherry pick out more than a few groups half that size, but that isn't what you will normally get.


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Originally Posted by battue
He and I went around once. Got a little tense, but we worked it out.


You're cranky, he's just particular.



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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by battue
He and I went around once. Got a little tense, but we worked it out.


You're cranky, he's just particular.



No, I'm particularly cranky.


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I satisfied myself today firing 10 3-shot groups that averaged 0.9". I did fully float the barrel and bed the action, adjust the trigger, and work up a load. (-:


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Do you have to wrinkle up your nose just right to get these things to shoot too? Say a dozen Hail Mary's, throw some salt over your shoulder. LOL


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No. Just one shot last season at 250 yards with a puny 270. Pretty simple.

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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Do you have to wrinkle up your nose just right to get these things to shoot too? Say a dozen Hail Mary's, throw some salt over your shoulder. LOL



No - but it was 20F and wrinkled my willy a bit!


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There it is!


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You may.
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It's hysterical that the Kimber is being measured against a NULA for accuracy. Really? Your $3500 custom shoots better than a $1200 factory rifle? Shocking!

If someone were so inclined, it takes far less than the difference in price between the two to get the Montana to shoot as well as the NULA.

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Originally Posted by Canazes9
It's hysterical that the Kimber is being measured against a NULA for accuracy. Really? Your $3500 custom shoots better than a $1200 factory rifle? Shocking!

If someone were so inclined, it takes far less than the difference in price between the two to get the Montana to shoot as well as the NULA.

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I completely agree, except that I've never paid over $1100 for a MT, and generally less laugh


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
What i don't fall for is this notion that some Kimbers don't shoot because they are too light; that may be true for some folks but I think a lot of it is that the rifles are inaccurate.

I just don't understand what's so hard about shooting a Kimber.

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The newer Kimbers are consistently better. I owned and sold several about 6-8 yrs ago that shot crappy no matter what I did. Recently bought 3-4 that all were acceptable besides a 257 with a chattered chamber that Kimber found "within spec".
Now I can afford to rebarrel if I like the platform which I do Very Much!


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