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Not yet. As of 10/30/16, the shop had isolated the issue to injectors not pulsing.
Well, duhh. That is what I told the mechanic when I dropped the truck off on the fifteenth.
Anxiously awaiting an update! Somewhat educated guess based on my limited experience: I believe you have an injector output stage blown in the ECU, or no RPM signal getting to the ECU. The former possibly from voltage spikes due to the loose/disconnected battery terminal with the engine running. Poor battery connectivity while the alternator is charging can wreak havoc with solid state modules.
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Finally some news. Mechanic called today, said he could not get a return signal back from the ECM on the injector circuit.
I got off work early enough to make it home to retrieve a spare ECM from a recently purchased parts truck.
Will find out Monday if the pickup will run after ECM swap.
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I have a 1984 HiLux 4x4 with a straight axle. I solved my 22R problem. It now has a Ford 302 stuffed under the hood  with an Edlebrock aluminum intake, and a Holly 650 carb. Only one minor problem.... AZ Emissions 
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Just crickets!
Apparently she failed to start after the computer change.
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We never get follow-ups. Why do we help??
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There has been little to report.
The truck has been in the shop for nine weeks and still will not start.
The mechanic replaced the ECM, and said that the injectors are now pulsing, he dicked with timing, replaced the fuel filter, replaced my brand new sparkplugs with another new set, drained the gas tank and added new 91 octane.
Yea, he is just taking shots in the dark!
He charged me for three hours labor, and the new parts.
Friday, I moved the pickup over to a different shop which I have used over the last 15 years with excellent results. This mechanic has some excellent techs, and promised to be under the hood by Wednesday morn.
Why didn't I take it here first?
The first guy is a personal friend of my SIL. And SIL is extremely good to Momma and me.
I will update with findings.
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There has been little to report.
The truck has been in the shop for nine weeks and still will not start.
The mechanic replaced the ECM, and said that the injectors are now pulsing, he dicked with timing, replaced the fuel filter, replaced my brand new sparkmplugs with another new set, drained the gas tank and added new 91 octane.
Yea, he is just taking shots in the dark!
He charged me for three hours labor, and the new parts.
Friday, I moved the pickup over to a different shop which I have used over the last 15 years with excellent results. This mechanic has some excellent techs, and promised to be under the hood by Wednesday morn.
Why didn't I take it here first?
The first guy is a personal friend of my SIL. And SIL is extremely good to Momma and me.
I will update with findings.
Whoever called that piccolo player a piccolo player is a mother fu cker... Just sayin. 9 weeks in the shop and that "mechanic" is still taking stabs in the dark. Holy fu ck!!!
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Hope you get the mystery solved, and truck gets back on the road. I'm on my third Toyota, the first 2 bought new. The only issues with any of them was the "96", which had igniton switch, starter replaced, but it was after 255,000 miles.
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Oh yes, he also put on a new coil.
My SIL has a fleet of more than twenty old diesel trucks and pickups. SIL has been averaging about $5,OOO per month in business over the last couple years with this guy, and he has given pretty good sevice on diesels from 6 liter Cummins, up to big Cat engines.
But he was out of his depth with this Toyota.
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bsa1917Hunter Whoever called that piccolo player a piccolo player is a mother fu cker... Just sayin. 9 weeks in the shop and that "mechanic" is still taking stabs in the dark. Holy fu ck!!!
I have been having an on going problem with my 1988 4Runner. The Check Engine light keeps coming on. The code reader finds no codes, and even when it happens 'live' as in while driving, with a code reader hooked up, no info is forthcoming. My mechanic is good, his equipment resources are good. His contacts with the local Toyota Dealer are good. No one can figure it out. There seems to be no actual bad effects of the light coming on, but it's aggravating. Two months now, and no solution. All the grounds have been double checked, and I am going nuts.
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come to think about it , sometimes plugs will not spark under compression if your primary electrical supply is weak. add another battery and see. This.
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come to think about it , sometimes plugs will not spark under compression if your primary electrical supply is weak. add another battery and see. This.
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One small life lesson I've learned is that sometimes the problem isn't one thing, but several. Sometimes there's been misunderstanding on top of misunderstanding, or mistake on mistake, and no one thing solves the problem.
The solution is to go back to the beginning and troubleshoot every one, one at a time. Eliminate assumptions by proving each component. Don't assume a replaced part is good, test it. This sounds like it may be compound issues or false assumptions keeping you from solving this puzzle.
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It is in fresh hands now, and he will start from scratch.
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bsa1917Hunter Whoever called that piccolo player a piccolo player is a mother fu cker... Just sayin. 9 weeks in the shop and that "mechanic" is still taking stabs in the dark. Holy fu ck!!!
I have been having an on going problem with my 1988 4Runner. The Check Engine light keeps coming on. The code reader finds no codes, and even when it happens 'live' as in while driving, with a code reader hooked up, no info is forthcoming. My mechanic is good, his equipment resources are good. His contacts with the local Toyota Dealer are good. No one can figure it out. There seems to be no actual bad effects of the light coming on, but it's aggravating. Two months now, and no solution. All the grounds have been double checked, and I am going nuts. SAM, Mine experiences the same problem.... won't show up on the code readers, but it depends on what type of code reader.. due to the age of the vehicle, so of the code readers on the market don't have the info in them to diagnose it...at least that is what I've been told multiple times... On mine, it is the O 2 sensor.... mines been doing this for 150K +....doesn't really seem to effect any function I need... The Oxy 2 sensors, are 1 wire for an 87 and some 88s... the rest of the 88s have a 4 wire sensor... cost to replace the 1 wire Oxy Sensor is under $40... the one for the 4 wire is over $100... recently had mine checked at the college auto program, and they determined the Ox2 sensor... when the weather gets cold enough, or I am at 5,000 ft altitude or more... mine always goes out... comes back on, when I get below 3 to 4000 ft.... I don't have to deal with any inspections here, so I just run it...hasn't effected Schitt in 150K...
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Oh yes, he also put on a new coil.
My SIL has a fleet of more than twenty old diesel trucks and pickups. SIL has been averaging about $5,OOO per month in business over the last couple years with this guy, and he has given pretty good sevice on diesels from 6 liter Cummins, up to big Cat engines.
But he was out of his depth with this Toyota.
If ya wanna get this squared away, if they have a local comm college with an automotive program.. I'd run it over there... the instructors love stuff like that to assign the senior students on.... our local college ( when they do charge) is $25 for the visit...and parts... no hourly charges etc.. I've seen plenty of cars come in there for solutions after the owners have been raped by some local shop or two... the problem is found and fixed pretty cheaply... The auto program doesn't sabotage stuff like local shops have a habit of doing around here... they put a warranty on their work and if you have to bring it back it is at no charge...
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Thanks Seafire.
I will give the new mechanic a few days. We do have a community college in Ontario and I assume they have auto tech training.
That is a definite avenue to explore if the current shop does not find an answer.
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