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Thinking about DD Leupold bases but what height rings?
Or other options?
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I don't know what's best, but don't really care for the way the rear DD base extends forward of the rear bridge. Low may be too low? Went with the Warne bases filed open to allow use of any Weaver or Picatinny rings. This is with Burris XTR Signatures, with 25MOA, 20 front, 5 rear... Kinda a neat product I decided to try after seeing it posted around here. China though - like their regular XTRs. I've since remounted it with the 40 MOA inserts and it's high enough I'd want a cheek pad/pack or such. Not sure where it'll end up but think it's a great scope for the rifle. With the 40MOA gain and 100 yard zero there's at least 22.7 mils remaining, plus the free ten mils. Handy. So much better than holding at the top of the mountain, something like 2000 yards and 195' drop. LOL+P This one has a wonky elevation dial and is going back. #2 arrived today and it's correct...
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I have one mounted in Tally light weights right now but I'm needing to order another set and am looking at options.
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What was wrong with the dial?
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I ordered DD lows for mine, hoping they'll arrive today so I can see if it fits. I was gonna go with Talleys but man this is a honking scope, wanted something a little more solid for mounting. Trying to figure out which rail or weavers works and doesn't work and which rings work and don't work, DD's just seemed the simplest way to go.
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I used Talley lows with an FX-3 6X42, and tried Leupo DD lows with the 3-9x MQ, but settled on Warne bases, which are steel & weaver-style, with Warne Maxima rings. The 3-9x MQ is a great scope on the 84M.
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What was wrong with the dial? Seems bound-up. Didn't loosen up with a bunch of twisting and feels like something more than a lack of lube. Most noticeable on the zero end of travel, which is about 3 mils from the end with the 40 MOA inserts... Will say too that it did not behave as expected during zeroing, but hate to declare it as an absolute, as I could have been at fault. Just seemed to wander - complete opposite that I've come to expect. SWFA was prompt with a RA response via email this morning. Swapping it out and I'll report back what solution is offered. I think a rail chop and low rings would work just a well. Talley, EGW and Nightforce make rails. Warne bases and Leupold PRWs would be a good clean option as well.
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8400 Not in love with the rear base setup, though it's plenty strong. This is a set of Warne Maxima's that I filed to fit the picatinny lugs on the XTR rings, though the lug is offset in the rings, so the centered slot in the rear base throws the ring off center. I wish Burris made an XTR base for the Kimber 8400 and 84. 84m Zee Sigs have held up to some rough handling in the sheep mountains so far. We'll see how they hold up long term. I trust them more than Talley LW's, and they're a bit lighter than the XTR Sigs...
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8400 Not in love with the rear base setup, though it's plenty strong. This is a set of Warne Maxima's that I filed to fit the picatinny lugs on the XTR rings, though the lug is offset in the rings, so the centered slot in the rear base throws the ring off center. I wish Burris made an XTR base for the Kimber 8400 and 84. 84m Zee Sigs have held up to some rough handling in the sheep mountains so far. We'll see how they hold up long term. I trust them more than Talley LW's, and they're a bit lighter than the XTR Sigs... I was thinking the Signature Zee rings and steel bases might be a good option. Mediums in the picture?
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Yep, those are mediums with as much insert inclination as I could get.
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Curious, I don't have that much of an offset look/fit on the Warne rear base with Burris XTR Signature rings. My ring's lug is centered, I think. Design change? The pics shown above are angled enough it's not readily apparent. Just a bit there in front. What's up with that? Have scope mounted about .2" ahead of this now. Will caution that over-torquing will readily bind the zoom ring. Seems 18 is max that's ok 20 too much... Purely a curiosity - the two 3-9s I just got were low serial number, 002xx, and 0009x and the second one, a week delayed, was the two-digit unit.
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They may have changed the lug design on the XTR's like you say (I remember complaining about the offset lug on this forum about 8 months ago), or it could be that the bases for the 84 and 8400 have the cross slot in different locations.
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Well I decided to stick with Talley light weights for now. Gonna go shoot the 22-250ai in a bit. The other one is a 204 so maybe these heavy kickers will be nice to the Talleys.
I looked in my order history and remembered I tried a set of lows on my Kimber 22 with a fixed super chicken and it was a no go. Sent em back and that's how I got the mediums I have now.
My 223ai Montucky wears a Leupold 3.5-10 with M1 elevation and unless you put em on a scale, it's really hard to notice the extra weight and size of the SS. Balances better than I ever expected.
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Funny how you have things pictured in your mind then once you try it, it ain't always so...
Sighted the 3-9 in on the 22-250ai and then shot the 223ai with the 3.5-10 m1. All the while thinking I'm leaving the 223ai as is. Next sale I'll be ordering another super chicken. Glass is better, it's just as handy and will take me further.
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I replaced a 3-10 with m1 on mine too for the 3-9 ss. Same set up you have but mines factory rifle. I liked the two I I got in so well I ordered a 3rd before the sale ended.
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With the 1 inch 3.5-10 x 40 mounted as low as possible, and the SS mounted as low as possible, what is the difference in scope height above the receiver? Thanks.
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There's .100 difference between lows and mediums. Add the difference in 30mm vs 1" and I don't think it's much.
I'll measure when I get back.
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I would go with mediums regardless. I have always tried to mount everything as low as possible. I've always liked 36mm scopes just because I could mount them lower.
The Montana stock is designed right for use of a scope right off the bat,so low scope mounting isn't such of an issue as it is with stocks that came from an iron sight heritage.
The mediums will give you more bolt clearance and are actually more comfortable for me on the Montana even though I like a good cheek weld.
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