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Dates for this year are Feb 10th - 12th. Most of us get there friday and leave sunday morning. Main shoot is saturday, otherwise folks shoot whenever they get a hanker'n. Food supplied friday evening till sunday morning. The same spot as the last two years. I'll put up maps and we'll get into other details as the thread progresses.

Main thing now is the dates are set so start planning.

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I should be showing my smiling face once again...

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Dang, I'm going to miss this one as we will be in South America.


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Hope I can make this one, but have a business trip that could interfere. Put me in the 'maybe' category.


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so, so far I'm the only out of town guy coming????

maybe I'll win a shooting match if its just me participating!!! WooHoo!


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Heck, you'll likely win even if I show up and participate...talk about RUSTY!


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Originally Posted by SockPuppet
Heck, you'll likely win even if I show up and participate...talk about RUSTY!
You're supposed to say "I let Seafire win,cause he's old and I would have felt bad about kicking his azz." wink grin



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What's the location for this one? I may actually be in town this year for a change.

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Hope you can make it again... it's dead west of Punkin Center, about 1.5 miles of dirt road, good enough I get my fifth wheel into.

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Do you take new guys? I'm only 14 hours away.


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You have to submit an application, blood test and financial report... or show up...

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Last year for first timers we had EdM, niffty two fifty and probably some more but I'm old and cant remember.

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Originally Posted by krp
You have to submit an application, blood test and financial report... or show up...

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Great! Is there a password? "Leopard" "Thong"?


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Yup,there is a password.


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me and 300 of my closest friends will be shooting 1000yds at Ben Avery that weekend
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"The Three Hundred" are a little out of my league!


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Lord willing, I will be there.

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Originally Posted by Bigbuck215
Lord willing, I will be there.

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Looking forward to it amigo.

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Camp on site? Are we allowed to burn firewood? My google fu is weak.


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Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Camp on site? Are we allowed to burn firewood? My google fu is weak.


this is basically up a dirt road and a patch in the desert, no issues in the past with fireholes/etc. I don't think there would be any fire restrictions at that time of year.
you find a spot of desert to pitch tent, park trailer, whatever. No fees, no organized campground.

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Yes camp on site where we shoot, firewood all over, there are a couple hotels close and some folks do that. I'll find my google images and post them.

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Outstanding info Gentlemen. Thank you for posting. I am looking forward to this.


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Originally Posted by krp
Hope you can make it again... it's dead west of Punkin Center, about 1.5 miles of dirt road, good enough I get my fifth wheel into.

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Thanks Kent. I'll see how it goes. Funny, I wasn't all that far from there today, took a drive and came back down 87 from Payson.

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Originally Posted by Bigbuck215
Lord willing, I will be there.

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Be great to sit around another campfire with you! Looking forward to it.


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Originally Posted by Bill Poole
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They have a clay shoot the 11th for the FFA out there that I was going to try to attend, but I think I will pass on it. Michael has had way too much fun hanging out and shooting with everyone in Pumpkin Center. He was also last years winner in the one shot competition. grin I think he is hoping for a repeat.

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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Yup,there is a password.


The password is secret. laugh Are you and Frank going to make it this year? I might need to up my supply of shotgun shells. I will bring my slinger again. I have way too much fun with the shotguns. grin


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Judy is in charge of the password... Ken is only the messenger...

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I am planning to be there again this time. I am glad Ranger is coming so I won't be the only one from California.

I am especially looking forward to seeing the great group that was there last year, plus a few more new friends.

Ivan (Bigbuck215), I especially hope you can make it. You deserve to have some more fun after the tough year you have had.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Originally Posted by SockPuppet
Heck, you'll likely win even if I show up and participate...talk about RUSTY!
You're supposed to say "I let Seafire win,cause he's old and I would have felt bad about kicking his azz." wink grin




keep talking like that, and your wife will be happy for you to make it to my age.... grin


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Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Do you take new guys? I'm only 14 hours away.


That's a boat load closer than I am!


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Originally Posted by RoadRunner65
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Yup,there is a password.


The password is secret. laugh Are you and Frank going to make it this year? I might need to up my supply of shotgun shells. I will bring my slinger again. I have way too much fun with the shotguns. grin
Not going to make it this year. frown

We are planning on going to Armijio Springs in July though.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
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Yup,there is a password.


The password is secret. laugh Are you and Frank going to make it this year? I might need to up my supply of shotgun shells. I will bring my slinger again. I have way too much fun with the shotguns. grin
Not going to make it this year. frown

We are planning on going to Armijio Springs in July though.
Bummer! Guess we'll see you guys up north this summer... frown


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Elkhunternm,

Ken,you will be missed. I was looking forward to your impressive demonstration of lightning-quick and accurate big-bore rifle shooting!

I sent Rick a PM asking him to make this thread a sticky. Hopefully he will see it and act on it.


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You fellas have fun and keep Kent in line. grin


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I see how it is... fair warning for Quemado, if you see Ken in the food line, don't be just before or next in line... I don't guarantee against overspray when I spit on his food.

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Originally Posted by krp
I see how it is... fair warning for Quemado, if you see Ken in the food line, don't be just before or next in line... I don't guarantee against overspray when I spit on his food.

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Ahh...Then I should go first in the food line. grin


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Those that are worried about bringing anything, don't worry about it. Last year Kent and I supplied most stuff and he just collected enough $ to cover it. Easier this way.

Camp on site, shoot on site (not on sight eek)


Yes, we will burn wood, mostly mesquite that we scrounge from the trees in the area.



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Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Camp on site? Are we allowed to burn firewood? My google fu is weak.


Go. Kent's food alone is worth the trip. I went for the first time last year and thoroughly enjoyed every aspect of the trip.


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Those that are worried about bringing anything, don't worry about it. Last year Kent and I supplied most stuff and he just collected enough $ to cover it. Easier this way.

Camp on site, shoot on site (not on sight eek)



Sounds good, just let me know how much I need to chip in.

Ken, sorry you and the family wont make it this year, you will be missed.

Hope to see the usual ugly mugs and some new ones this year. grin


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Those that are worried about bringing anything, don't worry about it. Last year Kent and I supplied most stuff and he just collected enough $ to cover it. Easier this way.

Camp on site, shoot on site (not on sight eek)



I don't want to discourage folks from bringing something to share, but the main food we supply or I end up with too much of this and not enough of that. Its much easier if I get all the main food myself and I am set. Special dish, dessert, alcohol, are obviously welcome and encouraged. Bring drinks and snacks for yourself and a coffee mug. We usually have lots of soda and water bottles brought by locals in case and the store is not far away if we need something.

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Those that are worried about bringing anything, don't worry about it. Last year Kent and I supplied most stuff and he just collected enough $ to cover it. Easier this way.


That's good to know and would be easier. If I pull this off I may have to combo it with a work trip the week prior. I still plan on ditching the work car and driving the truck with overhead camper in it. I'd really like to make this one work.


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Originally Posted by Seafire
so, so far I'm the only out of town guy coming????

maybe I'll win a shooting match if its just me participating!!! WooHoo!


Watch this space. I'll bet a few more are already thinking about it! grin


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We've had some long travelers in the past, I always hope it was worth it for them.

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I'll be up Friday evening. Probably need to leave Saturday night. Hoping I can get the time off from work.

Kent, since Dennis and I are very close, please let me know what I can assist you with. Also, I have two new to me green stoves with 3 burners on the... just had to try them since they've worked well for you.

Anyway, let me know. I'll also try to bring 2 tables for those that need to sit to eat.


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I'm thinking mex food, machaca dutch oven enchiladas and elk tacos friday night. Steak and fish saturday night... any thoughts?

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Do you want me to bring some green chile breakfast burritos?


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Absolutely! Probably be around 25 folks.

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sooooo....what are the shooting activities ?


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That would be great.

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a to me funny memory from last year i think:
couple of guys sighting in this scoped rifle high velocity, low drag at probably over 200 yards.
a fellow attendee pulls out a remington pump carbine in .30remington, opens up and nails the target first shot with iron sights.
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Originally Posted by tikkanut

sooooo....what are the shooting activities ?


Dennis runs the shoots, but it is friendly competition, usually cold bore prairie dog, dangerous game follow up big bore, rimfire and others, Dennis will chime in. Lots of fun and different guns and loaning back/forth.

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Lots of guys have been beat by their own gun shot by someone else...

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Darby is bring chili again and also some antelope meat, we may be having lope tacos or some other configuration.

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I haven't decided exactly what we will do, but for sure a Prairie dog shoot and a rimfire shoot at 150 yards again.

A little change to the format this year will be that a gun can only be used one time in a match except for the dangerous game if we have that. You can loan a rifle but then you cannot use it for that same match. It's not fair to the guys shooting a cold (unknown wind )shot when someone else can shoot a rifle and then the next guy can see exactly where it shot and make adjustments.


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Originally Posted by krp
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I'm gonna try really hard to make it.....


That would be great.

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Last year's shoots were a blast.


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Last year's shoots were a blast.

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Are we going to do a close range rim fire steel sight shoot again ?

25 yards - 5 shots - at least one bullet must hit the center, and then the person with the tightest group?

Same as Armijo Springs last summer ?


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I was telling my wife how grateful she must feel married to me...

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Originally Posted by krp
I was telling my wife how grateful she must feel married to me...

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are you sure that look on Cheryl's face wasn't right after you told her Seafire was coming again?....

but his wife couldn't make it???

Last year at Quemado, the girls all sure got along real well... sitting at a picnic table, drinking wine and complaining about their husbands to each other...


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And egging Kaywoodie on telling stories... he's a damn chick magnet.

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Most likely,you "cut the cheese" and she was on the receiving end. wink

I've seen that look on Judy's face when I done the same thing. whistle


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Originally Posted by krp
And egging Kaywoodie on telling stories... he's a damn chick magnet.

Kent


hey you outta see them when Bob is schittfaced, they are schittfaced... and pretty much everyone has gone to bed...

Bob could recite the Austin phone book, with one of those French accent things he does, and they would be all goo goo eyed...


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It's not fair to the guys shooting a cold (unknown wind )shot



What is your definition of a "cold bore"?


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Cold bore. Usually no warm-up starting 15 or 20 minutes before the shoot. When it's your turn, you get to fire one shot at the given target.


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Cheryl is a lovely lady - looks like she just tasted one of Kent's antelope tacos.


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Originally Posted by RoadRunner65
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It's not fair to the guys shooting a cold (unknown wind )shot



What is your definition of a "cold bore"?



That means you get your rifle that you have previously sighted in and take one shot with no opportunity to take test shot to gauge the wind etc.


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Deflave will not be attending this yrs event... He said maybe next yr


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Originally Posted by 79S
Deflave will not be attending this yrs event... He said maybe next yr


Which one?

New applicants require a vetting process through the committee... bribes are encouraged, actually required.

If you are having your people contacting my people... additional processing bribes are required.

No group applications.

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Get Him and Paladin at the same time, about half lit, and you will laugh until your ribs hurt. Saw that at Ed's one night, just a few of us still up. miles


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
- - - A little change - - a gun can only be used one time in a match except for the dangerous game - -. You can loan a rifle but then you cannot use it for that same match. It's not fair to the guys shooting a cold (unknown wind )shot when someone else can shoot a rifle and then the next guy can see exactly where it shot and make adjustments.

We do enjoy plenty of informal shooting and sharing of firearms and, yes, the competitive shoots are friendly and great fun. But we do try to compete on fair terms and Dennis is on the mark with this change. I would add that the shooter should go to the line/bench alone to do his/her setup and shot, with neither assistance nor interference (including wisecracks about my lousy eyesight when I'm trying to find stuff, and envious snarks about Darby's nice stuff.).


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Oh, and one more rule for Darby, he has to use old, ugly, rusty guns this year!! grin


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Originally Posted by CCCC
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- - - A little change - - a gun can only be used one time in a match except for the dangerous game - -. You can loan a rifle but then you cannot use it for that same match. It's not fair to the guys shooting a cold (unknown wind )shot when someone else can shoot a rifle and then the next guy can see exactly where it shot and make adjustments.

We do enjoy plenty of informal shooting and sharing of firearms and, yes, the competitive shoots are friendly and great fun. But we do try to compete on fair terms and Dennis is on the mark with this change. I would add that the shooter should go to the line/bench alone to do his/her setup and shot, with neither assistance nor interference (including wisecracks about my lousy eyesight when I'm trying to find stuff, and envious snarks about Darby's nice stuff.).


This is true given my one experience. That said, it seemed pretty competitive for some.


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In the past I have pulled a gun out and informally shot, but I don't participate in the saturday shoots as I'm as noncompetitive in my shooting, hunting, fishing as can be. Also I can't deal with being in large crowds especially noisy environments.

If I can stay busy with cooking or stuff I can deal with crowds, it drives my wife and daughter crazy, they go to parties, gatherings and shopping without me.

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Originally Posted by krp
I'm as noncompetitive in my shooting, hunting, fishing as can be. Also I can't deal with being in large crowds especially noisy environments.

it drives my wife and daughter crazy, they go to parties, gatherings and shopping without me.

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Same here.


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I am definitely looking forward to some more of Kent's fish.
Absolutely delicious!


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Oh, and one more rule for Darby, he has to use old, ugly, rusty guns this year!! grin

Am thinking that Darby never has owned an old, ugly, rusty anything - so he may have to go find one. But, he has a brand new nice range over there and is probably out getting ready every day.
Been thinking about some shooting up here, but it's been well below freezing when the wind isn't blowing or snow isn't flying. May have to stop somewhere in the desert before the event.


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We just will not be able to go - wish we could pull it off.


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Ouch - Mark - sure have been looking forward to seeing you both. Will miss you.


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Originally Posted by CCCC
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Oh, and one more rule for Darby, he has to use old, ugly, rusty guns this year!! grin

Am thinking that Darby never has owned an old, ugly, rusty anything - so he may have to go find one. But, he has a brand new nice range over there and is probably out getting ready every day.
Been thinking about some shooting up here, but it's been well below freezing when the wind isn't blowing or snow isn't flying. May have to stop somewhere in the desert before the event.


I have an old remington 552 speedmaster with broken stock, screws from home depot and an old 4x15 scope that he can use

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Originally Posted by krp
Hope you can make it again... it's dead west of Punkin Center, about 1.5 miles of dirt road, good enough I get my fifth wheel into.

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It's looking better for me being able to drop in at least Kent.

So it sounds like a regular car can navigate the dirt road? I'm truckless for the next couple months most likely.

And what kind of equipment is needed to facilitate the shooting? Are there benches or do you need to bring your own? I have a pretty decent trap to throw birds if enough people would be interested in that, but wouldn't want to hump it if I wasn't sure it would be useful.


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A car can make it, shooting stuff is brought by various folks and clay hand throwers are used. Just get there.

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rufus, i haven't seen b.c. colorado posting on here for a while, but he has had no difficulty driving his car into the campsite and the same with others. But it's like anything else in arizona, dry conditions are one thing, rain and mud are another.


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Family vehicles have made it just fine, if there is an issue we will have phone # to call and someone can run back the mile to Punkin center and do a park and ride.

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Thanks, Rick, for making this a "sticky".

Sorry to hear about your ordeal with knee surgery.
I hope you have an excellent recovery.


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Headed to the lake today to catch vittles... hopefully...

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Headed to the lake today to catch vittles... hopefully...


Wish that I could help you. I can't firm up any plans until a Dr. visit on the 25th but still might make it. miles


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I hope so Miles, I know its a damn long trip when hurting.

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I know its a damn long trip when hurting.


Traveling does not seem to hurt. Problem is time between Dr. visits and picking up pain medicine. Can't get but a month at a time, and nothing early. No way around it according to the Doctor and Druggist. After the nerve burns I have cut back on some medicine and quit one all together. It hasn't helped my walking much, but it has the sleeping. I think a lot of the walking problem right now is muscular, from not using them before the fixes. I am trying to work on that, but slow if any progress. Of course it has just been a week and a half since the burn on the right side. miles


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Miles - good to hear that the back issues and pain are lessening, even if slowly, and praying for the progress to continue. I'd like to learn from you about that "burn" treatment.

Sure do hope that you will be able to get out to Tonto Basin with the gang - we'll be needing some southern charm and curious intellect.


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Miles, sure hope that you can make it. Just wouldn't seem right without you there.

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I'd like to learn from you about that "burn" treatment.


Can't tell you a lot about it. It is a chemical burn of the sciatic nerve. They did several test injections to try to make sure they had the right place. Said it should get better after about a month a could last six months or more, before the nerve regenerated. I sometimes think they are milking the insurance, but you do what you can. miles


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Have a couple guys at work going through that... test this area with different things to see if they are a candidate for the real procedure... back and forth and forth and back.

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Nice, Kent. Looks like a gray day - was it chilly out there?


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Yep, never warmed up as the wind got stronger, we quit at 2:00, my brother was cold.

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I'm not wearing my hat cocked, the wind is trying to blow it off.

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Well, the fish sure look good! But I won't get to show up this time. PET scan Tuesday and brain MRI Wednesday show several new brain cancers and now in my left lung so starting Monday, they will administer 14 charges of radiation, one per day, and when that is over get started on the drug that is slowly replacing chemo but I don't remember what it is nor do I have a schedule for it yet so all you guys and gals have a great time. I really will miss being there.


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Ivan, you will be missed, you are truly a tough hombre amigo.

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Ivan, hang in there Bud! We will surely miss you, and we're all praying for you. Hope to see you next year.


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Ivan - I am sorry to learn this, but know that you are strong and of great faith. My prayers for you are ongoing and am disappointed because I was so much looking forward to seeing you again soon.


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Ivan will be missed this year.


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Originally Posted by krp
I'm not wearing my hat cocked, the wind is trying to blow it off.

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I was thinking you went "Texian" ! smile


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Ivan - a new round of prayers are beginning right NOW!
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I really do appreciate all the prayers and good thoughts from you fellers. Moral support means a great deal! Without it, I probably wouldn't last long.

I got started Monday on radiation so two more weeks of that and then it will be Keytruda for quite a while, I think. And as to yet no word on how long but it will have a huge effect on lung cancer and on the brain cancer as well. Jimmy Carter says he owes his life to that medicine so reckon I will give it a try.

I will try to keep y'all posted but don't be surprised if I get a little lax in responding. Please keep praying!

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Ivan,

I too will miss Tonto this year due to a 30th anniversary trip planned over a year ago. I will see you there next year though.


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Wishing we could take the winter gathering to you in Billings. Lots of love and prayers for you Ivan. We're all offering prayers in your behalf.

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Ivan,

I too will miss Tonto this year due to a 30th anniversary trip planned over a year ago. I will see you there next year though.

Good deal. I sure plan on being there.


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Thanks, Jeff. Yeah, that would be great!

And thank you for your prayers and support.


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Ivan, wishing you the best.

I can't make it again this year, perhaps when I get to retire in a couple of years.

I have a HAM tag for javelina over near Baghdad starting the weekend of the get together, so if my health holds up and I think I can make the long drive, that's where my time will be spent. It's been a few years since I've made that hunt with my friends and I would love to get another "pig" with one of my handguns. And I'm hoping my brother might make it down there for a day trip or overnighter from FLagstaff area to meet the guys and see the territory. I'm hoping to goad him into getting a tag one year too.

y'all have fun and be safe.

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Thanks, Geno! Make the trip if you can as it sure is worth it. Those guys are great and Kent's cooking will become addictive real soon!

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One of these days it's going to stop snowing, blowing and freezing up here, and I may be able to shoot at something. So, can we conjure better descriptions of the Tonto Basin shoots/distances?

Anything we need to bring to help with the camp. food and activities?

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Just get here same as everyone else.

2 weeks away, end of next week lets try and get a head count for food purposes.

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you'll see my ugly face there....I gotta get out of this cold damp wet never ending fog and overcast.....


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Originally Posted by nifty-two-fifty
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Ha! Milo, it's good to see that you are going. You taking a jug of that fine drinking potion again?


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you'll see my ugly face there....I gotta get out of this cold damp wet never ending fog and overcast.....


Yah, git outta there, John, before it's too late. Don't conform!


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Ha! Milo, it's good to see that you are going. You taking a jug of that fine drinking potion again?



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We can toast Ken in his absence, also!


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Ha! Milo, it's good to see that you are going. You taking a jug of that fine drinking potion again?



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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Ivan, wishing you the best.

I can't make it again this year, perhaps when I get to retire in a couple of years.

I have a HAM tag for javelina over near Baghdad starting the weekend of the get together, so if my health holds up and I think I can make the long drive, that's where my time will be spent. It's been a few years since I've made that hunt with my friends and I would love to get another "pig" with one of my handguns. And I'm hoping my brother might make it down there for a day trip or overnighter from FLagstaff area to meet the guys and see the territory. I'm hoping to goad him into getting a tag one year too.

y'all have fun and be safe.

Geno

and i am sure you will stay out of that bar in bagdad on the dirt road north out of town. Or juniors/pikes place going into town.
I have hunted that area many many times. Had pigs cross the road in front of me driving up from bagdad to the las vegas ranch.


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I think I may get to make it, let you know for sure a little later. Y'all have moved the place since I as there before, so is this a place that you have to get a permit, or just show up, in case I am early. miles


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Miles, good news - glad you are coming. Campsite is open ground so come as early as you want. I HOPE to get there by Thursday eve but need to clear a lot of rocks from the path between now and then.

Kent's map is good but just ask if you need clarification. If'n 'yer comin' across I40, definitely recommend coming down through Payson, then 87S and 188 into Punkin Center.


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hello strangers


I see things are going on as usual. Glad to see you guys are still having the gatherings

I've missed a lot of them and most here wouldn't know me but i'm always wondering whats going on - though i hardly show up around here on 24hr anymore.

Anyway the reason i'm stalkin - sorry to say i can't make this one either - family gathering agin for me - danged people hate the snow so much they show up here each yr. what ya gonna do but make family plans .

I'd like to participate with an option of a new shoot -I 've recently acquired a cool target - plate steel which holds a clay pigeon - thing is real heavy duty - this is a loaner if someone can swing by or make arrangements I'm in n phx.

picture added -weighs about 80 lbs im guessin - its 18 x 32x 1/2 has slot in bac with a clay pigeon holder - It would make a great long range shoot. I'll even toss in dozen clay targets
I think of you guys often especially when i see or handle a rare ole shoot'n iron

hope you all have a great time - "if" i could at all make this it would be Saturday

our event includes some skydivin on thursday - friday so i have my doubts about saturday - no fear - its others whom wish to jump-

Gary - have that krp guy give an old freind a call if any interest

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Try and make it if you can Gary.

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1 week away, any of the 'maybe' folks able to confirm?

Usually about 25 folks at this one and over 50 at the summer one, more families can make the summer event.

Get'n stuff ready.

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It's looking pretty good for me, though I have no idea when I'll get out of work Friday so will likely just head out zero dark thirty on Saturday morning. Haven't decided whether to stay over or just head back Sat. night but should be there all that day.

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Speaking of bacon.

Dang (depending on who is reading this), I won't be able to make it this go 'round. Just got in from SC yesterday for a week, so won't have the time to make it to AZ.

And I was hoping to bring my own rifles to beat Dennis with this year.

Anyhoo, have fun and save the bacon. Speaking of which, if anyone has a good recipe for bacon, feel free to share. I have a slab of raw pork belly that I need to do something with.

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David- Sure wish you could make it. I need to speak to you about WY Pronghorn this year.

Kent, count me in. Let me know what I can do you help you.


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Originally Posted by Paladin
Speaking of bacon.

Dang (depending on who is reading this), I won't be able to make it this go 'round. Just got in from SC yesterday for a week, so won't have the time to make it to AZ.

And I was hoping to bring my own rifles to beat Dennis with this year.

Anyhoo, have fun and save the bacon. Speaking of which, if anyone has a good recipe for bacon, feel free to share. I have a slab of raw pork belly that I need to do something with.

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David, PM Joe Darbyshire... He's been makin some good bacon for a few yers now.


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1 week away, any of the 'maybe' folks able to confirm?

Usually about 25 folks at this one and over 50 at the summer one, more families can make the summer event.

Get'n stuff ready.

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Well Crap! I was hoping to meet Ranger Green and then, David.. I'm always disappointed when you can't make it...

We need more retirees in the crowd...or self employed etc..

Also bumming Ivan isn't going to be able to make it...

there will be folks there I am really happy to see, as always.... but the down side is you boys that won't be able to make it...

I look forward to this, much more than I ever would a high school or college reunion...


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It is a shame that the folks that can't make it won't be able to defend themselves when their names come up in conversation as we're passin' the jug 'round the 'fire!

Ken, I'm talking about you (LOL).

Ken perks up when someone mentions jugs! (Ha).


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Originally Posted by Paladin
Speaking of bacon.

Dang (depending on who is reading this), I won't be able to make it this go 'round. Just got in from SC yesterday for a week, so won't have the time to make it to AZ.
And I was hoping to bring my own rifles to beat Dennis with this year. - - - -
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Speaking of Dennis and shooting - is there any clear info on shoots/distances, etc.??


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Hi Kent. Planning to be there by Friday daytime. If you need things, please let me now.


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Hello,
I haven't been on the 'fire much because the constant redirects are such a pain. I am doubtful to be there for the Tonto camp. We were planning on it, but Stephen's basketball team has been killing it. They are in the State tournament starting this weekend, and so we have game this weekend and through next week as they progress.
If they make it through the championship game is the night of the 11th. Sorry folks, but we'll be in Quemado this summer!

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Looks like we can make it this year!
Doug and his Grandson and I.
Plan on arriving Thursday PM.

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OK, Paul asked me to put some stuff up about the shoots. The range in Tonto is more restrictive than Armijo so I will try to make the best guess at the ranges.

Prairie dog shoot: One shot, any sporting rifle with no sighters before hand. Anticipated distance is 150 yards. A rifle can only be used ONCE in this match. Closest to center wins.

Rimfire #1 shoot. 5 shots at an orange target spot (4") Must be a sporting rifle in 22 Long Rifle caliber. Any sights-no restrictions on shooting position. Anticipated range is 150 yards. Rifle can only be used ONCE in this match. Smallest group that has at least one round on the spot wins.

Rimfire #2 shoot. 5 shots at a pest type target (rat, crow etc) with an orange spot on it. Match must be shot from a field position- no bench rest. No scope allowed. Rifle can be used only ONCE in this match. Anticipated range is 35 yards. Smallest group with ALL shots on the pest and one in the orange win. If nobody meets this criteria, smallest group that has one round in Orange wins.



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OK, Paul asked me to put some stuff up about the shoots. The range in Tonto is more restrictive than Armijo so I will try to make the best guess at the ranges.

Rimfire #1 shoot. 5 shots at an orange target spot (4") Must be a sporting rifle in 22 Long Rifle caliber. Any sights-no restrictions on shooting position. Rifle can only be used ONCE in this match. Smallest group that has at least one round on the spot wins.




Distance on this shoot? Greater than 100 yards ? 125 yards ? 150 yards ?


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I am sitting in an RV park, in south central New Mexico, as we speak. Don't know what day, but unless something breaks, I will be there. miles



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Miles, you doing a drive about? you are a day away and a week early... lol

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OK, Paul asked me to put some stuff up about the shoots. The range in Tonto is more restrictive than Armijo so I will try to make the best guess at the ranges.

Rimfire #1 shoot. 5 shots at an orange target spot (4") Must be a sporting rifle in 22 Long Rifle caliber. Any sights-no restrictions on shooting position. Rifle can only be used ONCE in this match. Smallest group that has at least one round on the spot wins.




Distance on this shoot? Greater than 100 yards ? 125 yards ? 150 yards ?



So, no 17 HMR? Bummer. I will see what I can come up with for Michael to shoot.

And I will see if I can get my 63 to cycle, It is the only one I have with open sights in .22.


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Yep. Using the old roads instead of the interstate system. And looking at stuff. miles


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Originally Posted by DavePrice
Looks like we can make it this year!
Doug and his Grandson and I.
Plan on arriving Thursday PM.


Glad yer gonna make it, Dave. I'm gonna miss visiting with you. And everybody else.


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Looks like we can make it this year!
Doug and his Grandson and I.
Plan on arriving Thursday PM.


Glad yer gonna make it, Dave. I'm gonna miss visiting with you. And everybody else.


Thanks Ivan.
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Hey Dennis - thanks for the info on shoots. Sounds very good. Is the no-scope pest shoot (.22Rimfire) at 25 yards, 50 yards, or ??


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Hey Dennis - thanks for the info on shoots. Sounds very good. Is the no-scope pest shoot (.22Rimfire) at 25 yards, 50 yards, or ??





Rimfire #2 shoot. 5 shots at a pest type target (rat, crow etc) with an orange spot on it. Match must be shot from a field position- no bench rest. No scope allowed. Rifle can be used only ONCE in this match. Anticipated range is 35 yards. Smallest group with ALL shots on the pest and one in the orange win. If nobody meets this criteria, smallest group that has one round in Orange wins.


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Miles, don't tell us that you're stayin' at that Happy Hooker RV park down near Ruidoso - been told there's only ugly fish in that pond.

Dennis - is it true that factory ammo cannot be used in your shoots?

RoninPhx - are you coming to the event?


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Dennis - is it true that factory ammo cannot be used in your shoots?


Now I have to go get supplies and learn to reload for everything. Can I use the same case or can you only use the case once?

I think I scrounged up enough rifles so Michael and I can each shoot rather than using the same rifle more than once in each shoot.


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Dennis - Is it OK to use "factory" ammo if it is made by a commercial reloader using once-fired brass? My powder got wet and am not sure we can get it dry enough to use through the measure before next weekend?


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Well, She was not happy at the start. miles


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You can use factory centerfire ammo but not factory rimfire ammo and since when are these my shoots?


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Ouch, my rimfire reloader is broken, and also I'm confused. Who's running the shoots? Darby, maybe ???


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You can use factory centerfire ammo but not factory rimfire ammo and since when are these my shoots?


I am having a hard time finding FACTORY SPRINGFIELD, RUGER or Iver/Johnson .22 ammo anyway. grin

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See you guys there, out the door and on the way...

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John,
I arrived in the Tucson area yesterday. Sunny 70s today. I hope you brought your sunglasses and sunscreen..

The roads in California that I took (99, 58, etc) are in better shape this year than they were last year. Stay safe getting away from all that weather.

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Hey, John. Don't forget your camera!


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Well, looks like saturday is going to be cooler and possible rain, going from about 80 on friday to mid 60s. Lows in the 50s and high 40s.

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If rain is a maybe - is anyone bringing a big tarp with poles/ropes - or one of those pop-up lids - or have a big awning on the camper?? Or.

Let's fess up if we need to get/bring something.


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I don't own an easy-up.


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I have a 10'x10' easy up I will bring, I might be able to get one more.


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I arrived at camp late this afternoon (they send in the Marines first,right?) to find that Miles Patton beat me by a day or two. There is no one else within a mile of our camp right now.

The dirt road in is in excellent shape, better than last year, except for the rough last 200 yards, about the same as last year. Anybody showing up in a Corvette will have to park and walk in the last 200 yards.

Miles Patton was so glad to have some company that he heated up some excellent stew for our dinner while I got situated and settled in. We got acquainted over dinner and a cold beer.

Right now, at almost 10:00 pm the sky is clear under a full moon. The temperature is 60 degrees, the moonlight is almost bright enough to shoot by, and the coyotes are starting to make their presence known.

Safe travels everyone, the campsite is claimed for the Campfire group, and the welcoming committee is in place. I am looking forward to greeting some old friends and meeting some new ones.


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I have a 12 x 24 canopy plus a pop up, same one we used at Quemado lake when we were in the parking lot.

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Forecast has now lowered rain chance to max 50% from 8PM Sat through most of the day Sunday.

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Doug, Gabe and I should be there early this afternoon.

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Thanks for the reports guys - good stuff.

nifty250 - looks like you and Miles have everything ready in camp. Interesting that Miles served you that stew - it was made with coyote meat left over from last summer's gathering up this way. How are you feeling today?

That's bad news with the last 200 yards of road - will not be bringing my old Corvette as planned.

Is Darby there yet - can't seem to find him on his cell phone.


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i have been otherwise directed to some extent, missed cccc's comment.
i plan to attend if for no other time at least saturday.
I have another adoptee golden retriever among other things.
very abused dog that have been dealing with this week.
the only thing that concerns me is not being there on friday and the addiction i have to krp's fish.
and to be honest onset of oldage itis.
i was thinking it was next week.

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Michael and I will be up there Friday night sometime. I am going shopping tonight and tomorrow in case anybody forgot anything just let me know and I will try to pick it up for you. (bottled water, salt, pepper, blah blah blah) laugh

How many kids will be there besides Michael? Do I need to bring a 20ga youth shot gun for them? I plan on bringing a few like last year so you guys can shoot whatever is comfortable for you and my slinger.

I will check back periodically to see if anyone needs anything before I head out.


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Steak and fish is saturday night, AZmex food friday night.

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Heading out first thing tomorrow morning. I threw in a couple of shotguns and some shells, and I will contribute some cash to whomever brings the clay pigeons.


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Cccc,

Miles said he ran out of the coyote meat for the stew, but he upgraded to raccoon, and he is saving some for you, Paul. Yum, yum.

Dave Price and his crew are here now and all set up.

Roadrunner, you could bring a lopping shear and a camp saw to help clear shooting lanes and around campsites, unless someone else has already said they are bringing some. Miles has been beating the thorn bushes back with his cane and hitting cactus spines with his arm on the backstroke. He says a little blood adds flavor to the stew.

We are fixing to have some more stew right now to go with the cold beer.

All is well while we await reinforcements.


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I will bring a lopper and a saw, unless someone tells me not to bother...


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You guys have fun!! Travel safe going and returning!


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I'll be leaving 5-ish am Sat from the far west valley. Let me know if there's something needed last minute I could pick up tonite.

The map looks pretty clear. Does the dirt road have a number sign?

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Dang, missing this for the second year.

You folks have a good time...

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The road into camp is on the west side, exactly opposite the south exit road from Punkin Center. We think the road number is 409.

We just finished an excellent dinner, prepared by KRP (Kent) of antelope tacos. The meat was indirectly provided by Ken Howell, in that the antelope was taken by DARBY (Joe D. ) using Ken Howell's custom rifle in 220 Howell, with a 75 gr. bullet at about 3400 fps.

After dinner we enjoyed an Amarulla toast to Ken Howell and to Bigbuck215 (Ivan) and to some other Campfire friends that can't be with us this year.


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Originally Posted by RufusG
I'll be leaving 5-ish am Sat from the far west valley. Let me know if there's something needed last minute I could pick up tonite.

The map looks pretty clear. Does the dirt road have a number sign?
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its 409, if you are coming in from the beeline side, in punkin center start looking on your fight rd will be there just past a little ridge. believe it is marked.


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Hey, thanks for the toast! I felt that way up here.


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You Gentlemen Rock! I wish I could have made it, maybe for the antelope tacos alone. I sit here instead, between assignments.


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Yesterday afternoon and this morning sunrise.


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Looks like the start of a beautiful day.

Howdy, y'all.


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