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Easily in the top 5 list of cartridges. NO ! Not according to Top 10 Ammo sales >> OR Top 10 Reloading Die Sales. The 7-08 is not even in the Top 10 of either. Jerry ummm, you missed the point. The 375 H&H is arguably the best all around cartridge ever, and I guarantee you it's not in the top ten either...
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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It is easily, in my opinion, one of the better "all around" cartridges for North American hunting.
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Another big fan of the 7MM-08! I've had probably a dozen over the last 15 years - 4 where custom builds. Currently have 4 in the safe, feel naked if I have less than that:) I'm a factory ammo shooter and have had great luck with either the 140 grain Fusion or 120 grain Nosler BT ammo. Just bought some these - excited to see how they shoot! ![[Linked Image]](http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r489/oregonmuley/002.jpg)
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I have a 7mm-08 in a Sako rifle. Very nice package, accurate and easy to shoot. I also have a .280 so I basically only use the 7mm-08 with 140 grain bullets and use the .280 with anything heavier. I have taken a number of deer with the 7-08 and find it very effective. I primarily use either Hornady 139 gr softpoints or Speer 145 gr. softpoints.
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7-08. Plain Jane Kimber MT. One 150 NBT did the deed handily, penetrating 3' of elk. Does that help any mjbgalt?  ![[Linked Image]](http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/bradmacmt/Hunting/bull14_zps2194026c.jpg) Nice bull!! 
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The 375 H&H is arguably the best all around cartridge ever... I guess you could make that argument. But not really, in the context of the OP.
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Its the best thing on a 308 case. I think you could make that same argument for the 260. IMO, the advantage of the 7-08 is heavier bullets for bigger stuff, so for deer I prefer the 260. Especially if you get one with the right magazine length, 3 inches.
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An ADDENDUM :
I actually LIKE the 7-08.
It is what it is....
It ain't what it ain't.
Jerry Exactly...... What it ain't......it doesn"RECOIL" a lot What it is.........it "KILLS" a lot Sounds like a very good place to be ☺ Trystan
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I have nothing against the 7/08 but I've never felt the need to own one. What will it do that my 270 won't? My brother recently decided to try a Ruger American in 7/08. Funny thing was I went with him the first day he shot it, and after 5 or 6 shots, his shoulder was bruised worse than it's ever been, and he's hunted with 300 Win. Mags his entire life. So much for the theory that 7/08's don't kick! Granted he was shooting Hornady "Superformance" ammo because that's all the store had at the time, but it was pretty funny, that he had bought it so he could have something that would be more fun to shoot than his 300 mag. and his shoulder ends up black and blue and sore for a week.
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Its the best thing on a 308 case. I think you could make that same argument for the 260. IMO, the advantage of the 7-08 is heavier bullets for bigger stuff, so for deer I prefer the 260. Especially if you get one with the right magazine length, 3 inches. Smokepole, The entire country of Sweden makes your argument for you concerning 6.5 bullets at 260 velocities used on moose.  Trystan
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Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field
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I have nothing against the 7/08 but I've never felt the need to own one. What will it do that my 270 won't? My brother recently decided to try a Ruger American in 7/08. Funny thing was I went with him the first day he shot it, and after 5 or 6 shots, his shoulder was bruised worse than it's ever been, and he's hunted with 300 Win. Mags his entire life. So much for the theory that 7/08's don't kick! Granted he was shooting Hornady "Superformance" ammo because that's all the store had at the time, but it was pretty funny, that he had bought it so he could have something that would be more fun to shoot than his 300 mag. and his shoulder ends up black and blue and sore for a week. That's funny, I have a lightweight 7-08 that I've shot a ton, and never had a bruised shoulder. Must have something to do with what those guys said earlier about the rifle and load having as much or more to do with shootability than the cartridge.
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He posts here as "Savage 99." Freaking hilarious......
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+1 There is a huge difference in felt recoil, between these 2.  & the 33ft-lbs/sq" is not the 7mm-08 ! Badly fitting stock, or bad form are the only 2 options here.
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I'm a fan, as is my dad. 140 gr Partition or Accubond over 47.5 gr Big Game, WLRM, 2.806". One shot each. 225 yards ![[Linked Image]](http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/pharmseller/IMG_3766_zps2tpww811.jpg) 541 and 545 yards ![[Linked Image]](http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/pharmseller/IMG_0110_zpsrnwxteng.jpg) 346 yards ![[Linked Image]](http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/pharmseller/image_zpsywwzuuj0.jpeg) 306 yards ![[Linked Image]](http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/pharmseller/DSCN0338_zps48be5157.jpg) You get the idea. P
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Its the best thing on a 308 case. I think you could make that same argument for the 260. IMO, the advantage of the 7-08 is heavier bullets for bigger stuff, so for deer I prefer the 260. Especially if you get one with the right magazine length, 3 inches. Yes....true. But....the 260 wasn't around when I formed my frame of reference,and when it showed up my attitude was..."here we go again.....something else I don't need".  It mighta been a perfect silhouette cartridge for Jim Carmichael to plink with,but when it came time to go BG hunting worldwide, Jim didn't take a 260.....he packed a 280.....  Honestly you can't go chasing after ever single duplicitous, overlapping,redundant, reinvented cartridge the factories shove down your throat........or can you!???  After doing it myself I found it substantial waste of time and energy. My emphasis was not to so much play with cartridges as it was to go hunting. I think I never fell in love with any of these short 6.5-7mm's is because I'd figured out by 1980 or so how to make 7 pound 270's and 280's etc, so they offered no advantage to me.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I own a rifle that was a 7-08. Not sure I'd get one though as it strikes me as neither large nor small. It's right in the middle. 308 seems better suited to elk, 6.5/260 seems better suited to deer. I realize the 7-08 is probably a great all around rifle. Funny how certain cartridges appeal and others don't for absolutely no logical reason. I will say my dad's bull went approximately 0 feet after taking a bullet from a 7-08. maybe it works ok...
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I think I never fell in love with any of these short 6.5-7mm's is because I'd figured out by 1980 or so how to make 7 pound 270's and 280's etc, so they offered no advantage to me.
But, but, there's that extra .5" of bolt throw you have to suffer through!
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Its the best thing on a 308 case. I think you could make that same argument for the 260. IMO, the advantage of the 7-08 is heavier bullets for bigger stuff, so for deer I prefer the 260. Especially if you get one with the right magazine length, 3 inches. Yes....true. But....the 260 wasn't around when I formed my frame of reference,and when it showed up my attitude was..."here we go again.....something else I don't need". It mighta been a perfect silhouette cartridge for Jim Carmichael to plink with,but when it came time to go BG hunting worldwide, Jim didn't take a 260.....he packed a 280..... Honestly you can't go chasing after ever single duplicitous, overlapping,redundant, reinvented cartridge the factories shove down your throat........or can you!??? After doing it myself I found it substantial waste of time and energy. My emphasis was not to so much play with cartridges as it was to go hunting. I think I never fell in love with any of these short 6.5-7mm's is because I'd figured out by 1980 or so how to make 7 pound 270's and 280's etc, so they offered no advantage to me. Well, all I'm commenting on is "the best thing on a .308 case." IMO, for big stuff it's the .308, and for deer (OP) the .260.
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I bought a 7mm-08, once, took it to my Smith without ever shooting it, chambered to 284 Win, no one will ever convince me this wasn't the right decision.
20 degree shoulder is just wrong. When you did so Boise....what was the chosen R.O.T. ? R.O.T.?? I don't see any performance benefit of the 08 over the 284. I understand the limits of owning a 284 in a short action but none have been an issue in my first gen Remington Ti.
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Hey Pharm - RE runs, RE runs,  pulling your chains.... Jerry
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