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-20F on a calm day in the sunshine is 10x better than 0 and wind.
This past December I was out doing something and it was COLD and windy. After a few minutes my nose started burning but I still had to walk back to the pickup. Started walking backwards and by the time I got in to warm up my beak was itchy burning.
It was very sensitive to the touch for a week or ten days later. Felt like a huge zit forming in the center of my nose.
The wind is no joke!
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-20F on a calm day in the sunshine is 10x better than 0 and wind.
I was in Omaha last week. Temp wasn't bad (+9 degrees F), but the wind was up (35+ mph), so it was just brutal. I like Omaha, but the wind gets worked up across the plains and once in the tall buildings is in your face no matter which direction you face. And it's a wet wind.
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The Bic lighter in the pocket to heat up a key is a smart move! I never got anything hot with a Bic lighter, other than the hand I was using to shield the wind with. I know that people love them, but not me. A Zippo will work,in the wind. THIS ^^^^ I keep one in my work shirt, and another for after work wear. In the last couple weeks I've heated the hooptie key to thaw the door lock, and thawed out the snap on the dog's lead after my wife uses a cup of warm water to thaw it.........which then freezes it solid.
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One of the NOAA stations near Stanley reported 43 below zero *F last Friday early AM. I'd post a pic but this site and Photobucket aren't working too well for me lately. :grrrr: Minus 31 F. in N Custer county this morning at 8 a.m., looks like it is a new record for this date since the site I looked at shows that the previous record was minus 17 F. back in 1947. Our average for this time of year is 12 F. Darned global warming anyway. drover Drover, I can believe it! I wish I could find exactly where in the Stanley area the station is located-the one that reported 43 below zero? I am not sure where it is now, it used to be where the old Hwy Dept shed was (approx where the City building is now) but quite a few years ago they moved it to where the local Forest Service Hdqtrs is located, a few miles south of town. Stanley used to make the national news quite often for having the low temps in the nation but since the weather station move it doesn't occur quite as often. Back many years ago I kept the temp recordings there but that was before the automated stations when it was done by daily notation. The coldest I can remember seeing in Stanley was -48, the coldest I have ever seen was -58 in Thule, Greenland. I have often heard folks say that once it is -20 after that it doesn't make any difference - having been exposed to temps well below that I respectfully beg to disagree with them. drover
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Run your rifles/shotguns dry as can be with no oils. After cleaning them to bare metal, I have found that Hornady One-shot Gun Cleaner and Lube can be used without any harm. It goes on "wet" but drys out and leaves dry lube behind.
Always leave the guns outside for the entire season.
And never lock your vehicle doors during the winter. But if you do, having a keyless electronic fab that you keep inside your shirt always works.
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having never in my life experienced anything like that, I can't imagine those conditions. My hat is off to anyone that can function in such extreme temperatures and weather. I respect that ability but I damn sure am not going to ever participate in such an exercise.  Y'll carry on. Sam, You would have loved my year and a half living/working on the Caspian Sea. My island 60 miles offshore. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa437/boxhead61/WinterOffshore.jpg) My living quarters. The retired Russian cruise ship Shkotov. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa437/boxhead61/shkotov2.jpg) UBER ethnic! Dave Imagine welding critical piping systems, those with crazy high sulfur content. It ain't easy. We had to enclose the weld zone, provide heat, let a lone the weld pre-heat, to meet specs. Most folks are clueless on this.
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One of the NOAA stations near Stanley reported 43 below zero *F last Friday early AM. I'd post a pic but this site and Photobucket aren't working too well for me lately. :grrrr: Minus 31 F. in N Custer county this morning at 8 a.m., looks like it is a new record for this date since the site I looked at shows that the previous record was minus 17 F. back in 1947. Our average for this time of year is 12 F. Darned global warming anyway. drover Drover, I can believe it! I wish I could find exactly where in the Stanley area the station is located-the one that reported 43 below zero? I am not sure where it is now, it used to be where the old Hwy Dept shed was (approx where the City building is now) but quite a few years ago they moved it to where the local Forest Service Hdqtrs is located, a few miles south of town. Stanley used to make the national news quite often for having the low temps in the nation but since the weather station move it doesn't occur quite as often. Back many years ago I kept the temp recordings there but that was before the automated stations when it was done by daily notation. The coldest I can remember seeing in Stanley was -48, the coldest I have ever seen was -58 in Thule, Greenland. I have often heard folks say that once it is -20 after that it doesn't make any difference - having been exposed to temps well below that I respectfully beg to disagree with them. drover Asked my friend where he got that temp info I referenced in my original post, and he said it was from the station at the forest service office. Totally agree with you on the 'doesn't make any difference'. Tis Nonsense. I did a solo winter backpack trip behind Redfish lake last Xmas(2015) and saw temps of -30 at night with around -10 during the afternoon? That 20 degree diff. was very noticeable! 
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Imagine welding critical piping systems, those with crazy high sulfur content. It ain't easy. We had to enclose the weld zone, provide heat, let a lone the weld pre-heat, to meet specs. Most folks are clueless on this.
Meh, as long as the water keeps running and TV works... grin. Clark
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The Bic lighter in the pocket to heat up a key is a smart move! I never got anything hot with a Bic lighter, other than the hand I was using to shield the wind with. I know that people love them, but not me. A Zippo will work,in the wind. Until it gets cold enough that a bic lighter won't work.....
Bob
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Imagine welding critical piping systems, those with crazy high sulfur content. It ain't easy. We had to enclose the weld zone, provide heat, let a lone the weld pre-heat, to meet specs. Most folks are clueless on this.
Meh, as long as the water keeps running and TV works... grin. Clark I, fortunately, was a senior manager on the project so had my own room. No TV, no internet and no radio for 28 days. I don't recall a water issue. I do recall leaning against my left side on the outer wall of the ship being immediately awakened as it was cold azz outside. There was the camp in Qatar where I turned off the heat to my hot water heater to store 40 gals of air conditioned water in my room. My folks thought I was brilliant for that.
Conduct is the best proof of character.
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30 below in Teton village this morning just before sun up. I don't know about my guns and ammo, but I can surely tell you that I don't work well when it's that cold.
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If you have a good pair of Carhart bibs and jacket and there isn't much of a wind, you can tolerate that kind of cold for sometime.
It's usually your feet and hands that make you go in after awhile. But there are boots and gloves made for that also.
The deer hunter does not notice the mountains
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Old rancher born and raised outside Izee Oregon, 4100 ft elev, not far from Seneca where -58 has been recorded, said in his experience, that once passed -10F, each 10 degrees colder is a whole 'nother level of frigid.
I think of some of the fur brigade journeys I've read of. SOB, fug that! Modern comforts are swell.
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
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If it makes you feel any better, I almost needed a long sleeve shirt this weekend in Tucson.
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Ha! The sun came out today and it reached 6 degrees..............and it felt warm!
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
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And never lock your vehicle doors during the winter. But if you do, having a keyless electronic fab that you keep inside your shirt always works. I don't set a parking brake in winter unless necessary.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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American by birth; Alaskan by choice.
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Here's yesterday's view along the Snake River with Idaho on the far side of the ice. It looks much grander in person, it's ONLY this short section of road that's managed to remain bare enough for the deer and few remaining chukar. The rest of the county is buried under snow. [img:left] ![[Linked Image]](http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m89/222Rem/Album1/IMG_1316.jpg) [/img]
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I think of some of the fur brigade journeys I've read of. SOB, fug that! Modern comforts are swell. I remember long ago, reading in an old trappers journal about Indian kids, playing on a frozen lake and the real little ones sitting on a buffalo robe, naked, watching them, and laughing and hollering. Well below zero, somewhere up North in Montana or Wyoming. Been a long time since I read it. miles
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In my Midwest days, I've spent an entire week up in North Dakota on business, when the temps and windchill were some gawd awful crazy numbers.....
Get back home to Minneapolis, where the temps were in the 20 below range and its hard to believe that seemed almost balmy...where you could go outside to check the mail in short sleeves....
been up there a few Januarys all week long, where the company would call and wanted to know why I used so much fuel for the week.... they didn't understand the concept of "I didn't turn my car off all week".....
just locked it up and left it running.... filled it back up once it got down to half a tank....
sure was glad to own a good old Volvo Wagon in those cold temps...one hell of a heater on those cars...
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I think of some of the fur brigade journeys I've read of. SOB, fug that! Modern comforts are swell. I remember long ago, reading in an old trappers journal about Indian kids, playing on a frozen lake and the real little ones sitting on a buffalo robe, naked, watching them, and laughing and hollering. Well below zero, somewhere up North in Montana or Wyoming. Been a long time since I read it. miles The Burlington Northern Special Agent in Whitefish told me that in the early '80s he had contact with two Indians from Browning who had just arrived, they rode on an open car dressed only in shirt, pants and shoes. It was 20F in Whitefish at the time, no doubt much colder, plus wind chill, going over the pass. They did not appear to be suffering from it.
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