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How do the 357 No.1's shoot? If I get one I will likely be shooting everything from 38 wad cutters to hot 357's.
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Perhaps El Numero Uno will chime in. I know that he used one on a lion hunt over in Arizona a few years ago.
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I've had mixed results with mine, but I've had it since 1984 when I bought it new for around $300 (mine is one of the unmarked overrun examples).
It won't win any benchrest matches, but it can shoot some handloads very accurately (around 1 inch at 100yd for 5 shots, though that's not the norm). Mine seems to like loads with 180gr bullets, but also has shot the old Remington 150gr Ptd bullets well too, if you can find any. I've shot everything from 95gr to 200+gr, jacketed and cast - cat sneeze to full-power rifle-only.
One thing is certain: it is fun to shoot and cheap to reload. I have no plans to sell mine anytime soon.
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I doubt I'd ever shoot it at 100 yards. I'm thinking more like archery distances, maybe 50 yards. I think it would make a fun bunny or armadillo blaster.
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I have been eyeballing a 38 special or 357 mag in a No.1 for a while now. Originals No.1A's are pretty pricey for what they are right now, so I will probably build one up.
Only donor right now is a 218 bee in a No.1S. I believe it will serve the purpose of my wanting a pistol caliber in that model.
Chunk the old 218 barrel, get away from the 218 bee ammo and brass availability, and have a fun 38 type gun.
A bit on the fence to build up a 32 pistol No.1 ala the General, but the 38 or 357 makes more sense to me with all the components available.
The 357 maximum or 357 B&D based on the 44mag, I think a a bit too big for my needs; just plinking or small game.
The 357 type No.1 is a specialty gun, but still think it would be worthwhile having, can shoot it almost anywhere.
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You might contact Ed Harris on the Cast Bullet Association website. Ed is a former technical writer for AMERICAN RIFLEMAN and former Ruger employee from years ago. He mentioned personal experience with the the .357 #1s, but that was some time ago and I don't specifically recall the details.
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I'd think a custom built 357 would be the way to go. Often 357 rifle chambers are less than ideal for accuracy.
I also wouldn't bother with the 357 max or 357 B&D. In my 10" 357 mag contender I was able to push a 200 gr cast bullet 1700 fps, the 357 max would do 1900 and change. In a rifle you should have no problem pushing a 200 gr 1700 fps with the 357 mag.
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By coincidence a few days ago, a red pad 357 mag No.1 came into the local gun store. It was priced a little under a k-buck, had a vintage scope on it; nice wood; pretty clean rifle.
I passed on it thinking too high for a donor, and did not like the balance which is purely subjective. I think it needs more barrel weight/length.
A custom build gives a lot of options, probably at less money than an original.
I suspect my build will be a No.1B type in 357 mag.
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