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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
What happened to make them quit firing?


I didn't get to look inside 'em, so have no idea. The guys who fixed them just threw new parts at the problem rather than diagnosing the cause.

Thus nobody learned anything...........other than they can quit going bang.

I have seen a very large percentage of slide locks break, and that's basically a function of round count. Shoot enough and the break. Our pistols are early models, and slide lock issue has been fixed. Replacement parts are beefier. Given that roughly half of them broke on the right side which doesn't engage the slide and shouldn't be under any stress, it's not a real vote of confidence for the steel they're using.


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That's the problem with undiagnosed problems, and relaying them as evidence of a faulty or inferior design. I've seen two that stopped firing and both were because of broken trigger return springs on guns that weren't maintenanced properly.

Knowing only "it broke" without any other information doesn't tell the whole story.


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Can't argue with that, as I share the same sentiment. It's still disconcerting to see pistols just stop working. The three I saw stop were all new enough with relatively low round counts (sub 2K) so trigger springs shouldn't have been the issue. But we'll never know.

For MY peace of mind, I still much prefer the minimal number of parts inside Glocks................and just about everything else that's different between the two. But I don't mind holding the minority opinion. wink


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So does anyone know about magazine interchangeability yet?


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They interchange.

I brought one home today. I've been playing with it at my desk long enough. This one is the 5" FDE 9mm. We'll see how it shoots this weekend. I'm off to ATA tomorrow or it would see action sooner than that.


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I ave seen more than a few Glocks that "just stopped working." Quite a few, actually...

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Thanks 'smoker.


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Originally Posted by liliysdad
I ave seen more than a few Glocks that "just stopped working." Quite a few, actually...


I've seen a few Gen 3 G22s start choking when WMLs were attached, but that's it. None that just quit. Not doubting your experience though.

I've seen several that had broken pins that were only discovered because of an annual inspection. They were still firing just fine. Granted they shouldn't have sheared in the first place, but still.


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I've experienced broken extractors and ejectors on a small herd of Gen II G22 .40 S&W guns I was once tasked with maintaining. A call to Glock got replacement parts on the way overnight. Those broken parts hit about the 1,500 round mark give or take a few hundred rounds. Over the four years I was responsible for those guns the occasional front sight would disappear and I think I recall a spring breaking on one gun. There would be the occasional malfunction on range days here and there. We used Federal American Eagle range ammo and it was pretty good stuff. It was usually hard to find out why the gun jammed because if the officer didn't get that gun running again right then he knew he was getting an ass reaming about standing there gawking at a useless handgun. The guys were pretty good at clearing the odd occasional choke and continuing with the drill. I don't buy the whole "Glock Perfection" business. They are as reliable as any other good quality service weapon, no better and no worse. I like Glock, but I keep malfunction drill skills sharp. Mechanical things occasionally break down, it happens to the best of them.


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Whittaker Guns has them for a great price.
Here is the links...

(9mm Black)- https://shop.whittakerguns.com/product/ss-38086

(9mm Black w/Ambi Safety)- https://shop.whittakerguns.com/product/ss-38088

(40 FDE w/Ambi Safety)- https://shop.whittakerguns.com/product/38108

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Originally Posted by 222Rem
So does anyone know about magazine interchangeability yet?

Supposedly, the mags from the older M&Ps work fine in the new model. I don't have personal experience but read that in a few online shooting magazine reviews of the weapon.


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Anyone know if the Crimson Trace grip from the original M&P would fit on this new model?


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I held one at Bass Pro Shop, and I must say the grip texture is the best I've experienced in a polymer handgun.


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Originally Posted by 222Rem
Given a choice I'll still take a plain, unsculpted, ugly Gen2/Gen3 Glock that goes bang every time, has a decent trigger pull, and contains an amazingly low list of parts to fail.
This.


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Put a regular trigger on it. Take off the goofy rail. Leave off the scalloped slide serrations. Remove the safety.

Basically, make it a Kahr.

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in 9mm only...


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The triggers in my performance shop shields are just excellent, almost too light for a carry gun.

smooth, crisp, and a positive reset.

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Took a look at one of these at the local gun shop. I like the grip texture. Really feels secure in the hand. The trigger felt like around 5 pounds and crisp. The amount of travel on the trigger seemed more than the old model but it was very obvious where the break was and the distance to reset after the break was nice and short.


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Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Took a look at one of these at the local gun shop. I like the grip texture. Really feels secure in the hand. The trigger felt like around 5 pounds and crisp. The amount of travel on the trigger seemed more than the old model but it was very obvious where the break was and the distance to reset after the break was nice and short.
Better money spent, IMO, would be to have a texturing job done on your Glock to match the feel of the 2.0 M&P. That or buy a cheap set of Talon Grips and install them properly on your Glock.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Took a look at one of these at the local gun shop. I like the grip texture. Really feels secure in the hand. The trigger felt like around 5 pounds and crisp. The amount of travel on the trigger seemed more than the old model but it was very obvious where the break was and the distance to reset after the break was nice and short.
Better money spent, IMO, would be to have a texturing job done on your Glock to match the feel of the 2.0 M&P. That or buy a cheap set of Talon Grips and install them properly on your Glock.



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