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I've been running 42.8 grains of var get in lapua brass with winchester primers and a 168 grain ballistic tip.
Now I need a good load for a 130 or 150 grain tsx or lead free bullet.
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I have been using 42.5 grains of 4064 with a rem 9.5 primer and 180 Nosler Partition in my little Win. 70 Classic Compact short action for years.
I like this load because I can buy Partition 2nds on sale for about $13.50 for 50 bullets.
This isn't a super fast load. It isn't a super accurate load. But I don't care. It has taken a considerable number of whitetail bucks at under 200 yards - most with 1 shot and flop dead right there.
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I need advice regarding a load for my m70 ew in 308 win in preparation for an elk hunt in November. I don't reload anymore but have a bud who will do the task. I have some new nosler brass and a fresh box of 165gr accubonds. My bud will use WLR primers and RL15 (he claims it has been the most accurate in his 308s).
So, what are your recommendations for: 1. charge weights 2. OAL/COL
I appreciate your advice
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Nosler's book # 6 says:
start at 40 grains and maximum of 44 grains for that bullet with Reloader 15.
Case length is 2.015 OAL is 2.810
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My new Sako A7 Stainless Synthetic is loving the 168g Amax over R17...
168g Amax / FC brass / CCI 200 / 49g R17 / 2.898" oal.
This puts the bullet about 0.005 into the lands and still allows the cartridge to fit comfortably in the magazine.
MV is a smidge over 2700fps. I can run them warmer but no need. 22.5" barrel.
Accuracy has been right on 0.75moa at 125 to 260y for a mix of 3 and 4 shot groups, with a small handful of 5 shot groups too.
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47.5 gr W-748 + CCI-250 + 150 NBT continues to amaze . . .
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My daughter has had great results with her 308 Vanguard and 45.0 gr IMR 4895 behind a 130 Barnes TTSX. Gives her 2947 fps on the chrono. Everything she has hit so far was one shot and done.
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A bullet to consider for 308 is the black tip Blackout 110 copper bullet. It can be launched at moderate velocities 2400-2700 fps and it is low recoil and devastating on critters.
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I have been wanting to try the 130TTSX. The 62 grain bullets at that speed kill pigs. If you double the weight it should be really good.
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The 130TTSX is a very effective bullet in the 308win, as it can make some pretty good speeds. My father had very good success with it on whitetails at 2,900fps+ from a 20" barrel.
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After reading all this load discussion I decided to try Varget in my 308. So, I collected some Lapua cases, Varget & 155 Scenars. Loaded 48.5 grains & managed to seat the Scenar's enough for them to stay in the case. First three shots went into the same hole measuring .360 @ 2890 fps average.
Of course, it relegated my rifle to a two shooter. But, I don't care. One shot is all you need anyway.
Thinkin' that's good enough.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
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lately I've been sending a lot out rnds downrange consisting of:
win brass sierra 165 or bulk 168 42.0 H4895 cci 200
FL-sizing the brass, seating to 2.82" COAL, prints sub-MOA in all 3 of my .308's. works well in a ruger Merican Shawty:
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If you want more speed you can probably hit another node right at Hodgdon's 43.5 grain max load. However I don't load them wide open most of the time either.
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i hear ya ... things honestly get a little snappy in that rifle with the light weight and 18" spout.
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I never ever thought I would own a wimpy 308, but it kills just as well as the magnum cannons I own. Cheaper, easier on you, just plain fun. Should have had one years ago!!
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Whitetail/Mulie/Lope load that works better than it should !
125 Ballistic Tip
48.0 gr Varget
Win case and standard primer.
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Share more info on the 125 NBT please? Curious how stout it is on whitetails and what speeds you can get. SPS has some available....
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Just got back from the range!!
WW brass, WW Mag Primer, BArnes 130 gr TTSX and 48 gr Varget! Very Impressed! Lightweight SAKO action pencil barrel single shot: 3/4 inch group at 100, Little windy and barrel warm due to load evaluation.
I'll try to chrono tomorrow but according to Barnes' site I should be right at 3100 fps!
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