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I am going to put a Leupold shotgun scope on my guide gun. would you use the 1-4x20 or the 2-7x33?
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My personal preference would be the 1-4X20, simply for the very wide field of view. The more compact size is a plus.
Nothing wrong with the 2-7X33, but I just prefer more landscape in my scope when trying to hammer a deer moving through thick woods. I've heard some say that the 2-7X33 is better in low light, but I have never had an issue during legal hours.
With the 1-4X20, don't let the sight of the barrel scare you, it's normal. I had one guy ask me if my scope was tilted when he was firing my .44 mag rifle.
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I like the 20mm tubes, 1-4x20 with heavy plex.
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I've got a 1-4x20 VX-II on my marlin .30-30. Works great.
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I never got into the shotgun scope thing. All 4 of the Marlin .45-70s I've owned, and also the Cowboy .38-55, were capable of sub MOA accuracy. I didn't downgrade the optics because the guns shot well enough to be worthy of better.
In my SS GG, I started with a Leupold 3-9X which I had handy, then when I needed that for something else, I stuck a 2.5-8X which was also "homeless" at the time on it. Those let me wring out accuracy. I fell into the low power variable trap and put a 1.5-5X on it. I was never very happy with that, the field of view was too great and it was slow to locate the target. Eventually I swapped that for a 1.75-6X.
It's hard to say, for me, which was better, the 1.75-6X or the 2.5-8X. I usually carried the lower powered scope at 2.5 X because that's where I stopped seeing the barrel in the sight picture inside the scope.
All in all, I'd be hard-pressed not to pick a fixed 4X based on past experience with variables .. how I was actually finding them best in field use.
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thanks for all the good advice ron
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The only and big problem with all those tiny objective scopes is in early or late light. They just go dark in low light. I have a 2x7-27 that I took off and don't use fir that reason
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I always mount Leupold VX2 2-7x33's on My 45/70 lever guns, I like the looks and consider the 2-7 power range perfect for a 45/70.....Good luck........Hb
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I'm looking hard at the Leup Big Bore fixed 3x. Perfect scope for these rifles.
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Scopes are great as long as they do not restrict access to critical functions. Scout scopes are the cat's ass.
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i have 1-4x20's on most of my stubby marlins. nikon used to make a nice little 1.5-4.5x20 too but the leupold on tally lightweight extra lows is the ticket.
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I think it all depends on what you do with the rifle.My Marlin gbl has a Weaver 4x scout scope on a xs rail and quick disconnect rings.It takes seconds to do this.I use the xs ghost sight and the scope on this rifle...seems to work well
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Scopes are great as long as they do not restrict access to critical functions. Scout scopes are the cat's ass. Where did you get that picture of my rifle. I have my scope in qd rings, and have a Lyman receiver sight behind it. I had to have the scout scope, that gun recoils so bad I would be dodging a standard scope when it goes off.
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If your work requires close range shooting then you can't go wrong with an RMR. A guide gun implies last-minute backup. A large (7MOA) RMR reflex sight is hard to beat inside of 50 yards.
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Where did you get that picture of my rifle.
I found it sitting on my front steps, and it followed me in. I decided to try hot rodding mine a little by pushing 400 grainers up to around 1,750 fps. Very accurate, but I need to find someone willing to light off the last 85 rounds in the box. Factory ammo, running 1,100 to 1,200 is a pleasure to shoot and would likely still end to end a buffalo.
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I prefer the 2-7x33 Leupold. All but one of my lever guns have some variation (VX-II #4, VX-1 Hvy. Duplex, VX-2 Post & Duplex) of it on them. The one that doesn't has a Kahles AH 2-7x36 on it. IMO 2x is plenty wide enough FOV.
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