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About 3 am last night had a sensation of some dark negative force in the bedroom and then felt this weird cold force move on top of me and could literally feel energy waves coursing through my body. I remember being awake and trying to fight it. I could not move to save myself and of my catholic upbringing. I remember my, dog, who sleeps at the foot of bed, growling in a strange low manner.

Woke up this morning drained and could barely get dressed and make it to work.some bruises on my upper arm. Probably hit the bed post.

Have had this experience a few times in my life. Did some research and pretty interesting.

http://www.nosleeplessnights.com/sleep-paralysis-stories-intruder-demon-or-delusion/



Anyway I always try and approach things in a logical most simple explained manner and enjoy analyzing my dreams. I sometimes wake up when I'm dream and can simultaneously analyze dream at same time in a trance like state. Human brain is pretty amazing.

Okay, that was pretty messed up.

I have been in the dozing off stage lately and my legs kick really hard...and I gasp for a breath....I might need to do one of those sleep studies...

Kinda like the bad dream scares a guy into taking a breath...

Bruises as in from a blood clot? Might of been a pulmonary embolism. Buddy of mine just about died from a series of them earlier this year. Not something to mess with.

Yep, and soon.

nope simple bruises.

I have episodes of sleep paralysis about 5 times a year or so. When it happens I'm awake and see things around me like monsters in my bedroom or strangers standing there looking at me, but I can't move a muscle. Absolutely terrifying. It usually takes all my strength to regain the use of my muscles and then I usually can't get back to sleep for a long time. It seems to happen mostly early in the night and generally when I am laying on my left side. Go figure.

Someone on this thread mentioned needing a sleep study. I suffered for years with what turned out to be sleep apnea, which I didn't know until I had a sleep study a few weeks ago. My advice: get the sleep study done right away.

Never had it happen to me, but have hears about it quite a bit. What I find interesting is the number who report the "old hag" sitting on them, leaving them unable to move. You'd think hallucinations would be random and varied, but they are very often strikingly similar. Had a friend who used to have these episode's, sometimes he would manage to call out and if someone heard him and could move him he was fine. Weird stuff.

I'm lucky if I can remember one dream a year.

There's a movie on Netflix about people with night paralysis.

I would think apnea could cause oxygen-deprived hallucinations.


And verified deaths - don't mess around, get checked out soon.

My wife had them about 2 dozen times in her late teens and early 20's. She calls them 'shadow people'

Dont think sleep apnea and sleep paralysis have any correlation based on research I did

friend of mine has the condition where he doesn't have the sleep paralysis,he can get up and move while sleeping.
one dream he told me about,he dreamed he was fighting the devil for his brother and his dad,tug of war,as it were.
when his wife turned on the light he woke up, realized he was trying to pull the mattress through the door frame.

I'm scared to go to bed now....

JMHO and I'm no doctor, but get the sleep study done right away. Call your doctor tomorrow. Sleep apnea can be fatal, in rare cases. Far worse is the unnecessary stress on your cardiac and pulmonary systems.

Probably just a succubus.

I think that's true, but some folks like me are blessed with both.

When I was younger I had those fairly often. Frightening things. Still in REM sleep yet aware.

Old Hag, where do you think the stories of a succubus come from?

What do women get? Old Farts? Old codgers?

Who knew it was a condition? I always figured it was in my mind. Interesting...

Ya picked the wrong night to stop taking acid...

Go on and get ya some good 'ol fashioned 'window pane' or 'purple haze' or some 'superman' and you'll be right as rain again.

i was thinking my ex found me

Aren't those succubusses usually accompanied by another being called a suckyerazz (aka divorce lawyer)?

There are some deep, and very dark (the black and white format contributes) sleep lab videos that exist of this phenomenon.

I knew I shouldn't have read this right before dozing off.

No kidding!

Sleep paralysis. Experienced it 2-3 times. Become aware of being awake, aware of exiting some frightening dream, but paralyzed. Sensation of trying to use every ounce of strength to move and yell, sometimes got a moan of sorts out while coming out of it. Seems realistically it lasted a few scary seconds, hard to say, it's only happened when alone. No real pattern that can tell.

Don't care for it!

so you were raped by some real horny female ghost who liked to be on top? could be worse things...

ya could have been raped by a male homo ghost...

Sometimes it helps being a good Methodist boy.

Back about age 10 I had a bad case of measles. It started at the end of February and I made it back to school just about now. I had lingering side effects until the next fall. One of them was night paralysis. I'd wake up, usually after first light, and be totally unable to move and my breathing felt constricted.

Me? Firmly convinced God had protected me for something bigger and better in life, I decided that I must still be asleep and decided to stop worrying and go back to sleep. After all, he had brought me through the measles, right? This happened about a half-dozen times before finally going away before I started 6th grade.

The problem came back after back-to-back episodes of pneumonia about several years ago. This time, I was more curious than anything else. During one episode, I decided to test what it would take to gain control of my limbs. It took some doing, but concentrating on moving my toes, I found that all of a sudden I'd regain movement in one foot, and then quickly the rest of my body would follow suit. The flow of it was like getting a stuck bolt moving with a wrench.

One other thing to add: I was telling my parents of these episodes, and my father said he had been having bouts of night paralysis since he was a child, and had also grown used to them. He reported a frequency of 1-2 per year since age 8. This was about 6 months before he died just short of 85. No one else in the house knew what we were talking about.

Wet dream???

I have had them when I was younger

I've had dreams where I couldn't move, or fight back, but they always ended with me getting pizzed and delivering a major shot to them that would invariably wake me up.

I've never seen anyone else in the room.

FC

That's exactly my scenario...to a "T". I can't yell...only moan. I'm telling myself "Wake up! Make yourself wake up and move! " but I can't do it. Wifey will hear me moan, wake me up by shaking me. Can't even think about going back to sleep at that time. I'll get out of bed, take a walk around, go visit my lab outside in her pen, lover her up a bit, try calm down, come back inside and try to go back asleep. Happens about once a year. Very frightening.

Have had them numerous times. Always connected to a spiritual event of some type.

The male version is an incubus

I've had at least 3 experiences. All were at the end of an afternoon nap when I was dead tired. The brain was functioning, but nothing else was. I was telling myself to open my eyes, lift my arm or leg, move anything! Nothing moved and all physical sensations were totally numb. It was the freakiest sensation ever. The first time it happened was the worst because I was convinced I was paralyzed. During subsequent events I knew what was going on ... that's the level of consciousness I have during these. I now avoid afternoon naps.

How'd you fare last night?

this is one ominous thread.

Wasn't there a movie where a woman was ghost raped during her nightly sleep?

Found it...The Entity with Barbara Hershey.

Storyline

Carla Moran awakens one night to find herself being beaten and raped by an unseen presence. Terrified of what's happening to her, and shunned by friends and family who think she's lost her mind, she seeks help from parapsychologists. The researchers soon discover that evil spiritual force has been drawn to Carla and is responsible for the violent attacks. The question now, however, is how do they stop it?

Based on a supposedly true story.

Had them a few times many years ago. I could feel the strong presence of pure evil nearby.

Someone told me to say, as i think the Lord did, "Get the behind me, Satan". I did, totally relaxed and went back to sleep like a baby. Might have done it once or twice more but he learned his lesson and left me alone.

Get thee behind me Satan for it is written, fear (worship) only the Lord, thy God, and worship Him only.

Which in thois case would not be the old Hag but the old Phag.

To make a very broad statement, sleep paralysis in general has been interpreted as a normal mechanism which prevents us from doing ourselves damage during dream sleep or REM sleep. Believe it or not, whatever. But there is a scientific deduction of the method of paralysis (chemical) while the reason for paralysis may still be argued.


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I do it about every month and it still freaks me out because it is primarily a result of a dream of conflict. I need to fight, run, yell, punch, shoot, et al, but cannot because I'm paralyzed. Another interesting aspect of REM induced psychological effects is the OBE, out of body experience. My particular version of this phenomenon is flying. I don't mean I just thought I flew, I mean I really feel like I'm flying simply by willing it to be. No fear associated except maybe when I'm flying thru trees or under power lines, etc. It is though my spirit disassociates itself from my body and exercises it's power normally overwhelmed by the flesh. When I wake up I'm absolutely elated and can't wait to do it again. Still trying to figure out how to intentionally trigger this. If I ever figure that out I'll probably spend the rest of my life asleep.

Having expensive and unnecessary tests done is why health care costs so much.

Who you gonna call?

Charles Schumer.

This is a cool thread.........I hope guys keep weighing in.

I've never had the "old lady" visit, and it's been at least a decade since I had a real scare the hell outta me nightmare.

I discovered by accident that taking a vitamin B12 supplement over a period of time will ramp up my dream frequency, and really bring them a vivid level I'd never experienced before. I'm talking HD, color, full dialog, etc...........movie night while I sleep.

YMMV, because I'm wired backwards from the norm. I can fall asleep right after drinking coffee, but Benadryl makes my heart race. And the one time I drank "tension tamer" herbal tea right before bed, and felt anything BUT relaxed. But the B12 phenomenon isn't limited to just me, because I read a similar testimony on an amazon review for the same B12 I used.

I had a visit from the old Hag just last night. Since I've got the flu, I couldn't fight her off and the bitch had her way with me. She looked just like Jessica Alba. I didn't want my wife to feel bad or worry so I told her the Hag looked like Hillary though.

Grim reaper. Your time is near. Double down on life insurance. If you need a beneficiary, I'm open.

a lot of males who walk among us don't know that they are possessed, or have a dark side. others call it the femininene, and it must be released if we're to become actuated. say what?

that is the feminine must be recognized, or she'll revolt and visit you in unfriendly night dreams?

anybody ever heard of Adam's first wife? can't seem to remember her name, sorry.

anyways, just don't get caught in that gray-zone between sleeping and awake. story is, that's where She lives.

My understanding on this is actually your brain giving you a jump start. If your heart rate slows too fast your brain actually thinks it's stopping and will send a twitch out to stimulate your heart. I've kicked my wife a few times.

It causes you to kick your wife? I think I'm developing that.

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lilith isn't her name is it? wikipedia has a bit on Lilith. and we all know how reputable that site is.

I've had the sleep paralysis thing off and on for years but very seldom anymore since into my senior years. Scary when it first started happening back in my late teens-early twenties. After a few times though it got less scary as I started recognizing what was happening from past times. Still took real effort to force myself to move and wake up. The only thing I can imagine that it might compare to is maybe like being in a coma but subconsciously alert.

In my instances they are pure Hellish nightmares. There are ladies like Kendall Jenner, Elle Macpherson, and/or Taylor Hil beside me, and I can't move. Frustrating to the extreme.

Takes me back to the childhood nightmare. Dolly Parton was my mom, and I was a bottle baby.

well, see there it is. conflicts to no end, in that narrow, brief time zone between awake and sleep. and do we have control of the script or not?

when the movie on the screen begins to play, then pass the popcorn, relax, and enjoy the show.

if'n ya wake up, you can recount how great it was.

Damn, lotta you guys must be really in touch with your feelings, never heard of such, i sleep like a fuggin stone!

I do too but later I remembered boning Jessica Alba.

Nothing about that reminded you of Alba-core did it!

I had to Google Ms. Hill.............I'm going to have nightmares!

I had it maybe once a month as a teenager and maybe a half dozen times a year in my twenties. Haven't had one on over a decade.

I was raised in a very religious family and my dad told me to call out to Jesus, which worked. Eventually I was told by a TM'er that it's the first state for transcendental meditation and astral projection which was big back in the 60’s and 70’s when I was a kid. Never played with that stuff, but it's weird.

I think the Pentecostal types call it the witch on your back. Crazy stuff.

The Mormon Church story of Joseph Smith's first vision is right in line with sleep paralysis.

your spelling sucks. it is 'ingwebus'........eeeewwww.

At an Army school I was at some while back a classmate mentioned that a "boohag" had slept on him last night...said it was SC vernacular for said event.

Regardless the term I suffer these from time to time. Seems it can be almost weekly or years on end. Not fun. That between awake and dreaming feeling, you can see your surroundings but not quite out of sleep. Better hope it happens at about, or after 4:30 AM cause no more sleep that night.

Only three times I've had this wakeful paralysis, which is left over paralysis from sleeping after you've awakened. The first time it was scary. The third time, not so much. The first and third weren't associated with wakeful dreaming, but the middle one was, and it was a nightmare. I won't get into details, but it was pretty damned horrible, and I was awake and could see it all happening around me, along with sound effects to match. I remember looking at my two dogs on the recliner sound asleep, and wondering how they could still be asleep with all this crazy stuff going on all around us, along with the deafening cacophony. Then it disappeared, and I realized it had been some sort of dream state, even though my eyes were open.

I've heard of people just saying the Name of Jesus and everything returns to normal instantly. Worth a try next time.

Did the dog wake up happy?

Undergoing the sleep paralysis study didn't help me much . . .

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It causes you to kick your wife? I think I'm developing that. [/quote]

lilith isn't her name is it? wikipedia has a bit on Lilith. and we all know how reputable that site is. [/quote]

Lilith is the English version. lee-leeth' is the phonic Hebrew pronunciation. Also used for screech owl.

The Japanese call it "in chains". The Thais call it "the ghost who pushes you down" I think.
Sleep Paralysis 'splens all the Aliens' visits coming at night. Used to be Demons, Succubus, Incubus, now Aliens are pop.
It's just bio-chemistry, no need for spells or foil pajamas.

Might try that next time. I'd definitely say it would be good for you to say the name of Jesus the next time you fire one of your wildcat's.

"I have episodes of sleep paralysis about 5 times a year or so. When it happens I'm awake and see things around me like monsters in my bedroom or strangers standing there looking at me, but I can't move a muscle."

You are just having nightmares.

I have had it once and hope I never have it again.

I read that its more prevalent when you sleep on your back and the only time I got it was the rare occasion I was sleeping on my back.

ok, so to delve a bit deeper, did the victims who experienced such an *event* move to fight off the perp, or just lay there and take it, so to speak?

give us details please. a male getting raped is not all that common. and getting raped by a *ghost* type is even less common?

the kids resulting from these so-called rapes, what do they look like?

like you....

terror paralysis is common, but not talked about much, as people think, well your crazy.


they form much of the mythologies of all cultures and my favorite is from Aladdin and 1001 and one Arabian nights. To bad Disney screwed up the stories so much.

From a medical point of view, blood sugar levels fall dramatically around 2 in the morning, and Circadian rhythm takes over. This shot of epinephrine wakes you up but energy levels from low sugar continue and have no energy to "get up" and your adrenals give you a kick with a jolt of cortisol.

The older you are the more insulin resistant you are and the problem continues or become more frequent.

So don't eat high amts. of sugar before bedtime, instead protein. This same mechanism is seen in kids when given ice cream to get them to bed. When the blood levels fall off the detrussor muscle or bladder muscle cannot hold the urine and they wet the bed. And suffer needless psychological damage from parents who caused the problem.

if your old and really give a schit start some insulin resistant drugs such as low doses of metformin or topical testosterone cream.

OK lets see what was I dreaming.

In my case there hasn't ever been anything that I can recall being aware of happening to or around me. Just total blackness but awake subconsciously. No nightmares, monsters, aliens, zombies, serial killers, etc. For me the scary part is sometimes it feels have to willfully force myself to take each and every breath.

As I said earlier I'd compare my own experiences with sleep paralysis or what ever you want to call it to what being in a coma might feel like.

Used to have them when I was a kid. Can distinctly remember having a nightmare entity floating in the room when I 'woke up'.

Worst kind of nightmare I occasionally have now is where I'm dreaming that I'm in Hell and wake up. Only I'm not awake and the nightmare continues. Wash, rinse, repeat.

After finally really wake up, it's pretty much cold sweats for about an hour.

No thanks!

some of the myths from the tribes who use neuromuscular blocking agents resemble the hag or rather nag stories. these drugs curare and their analogs were used by their Shamans to meet with the Gods and lead the tribe.

Once it is known you can control the contents of the dream as Aladdin did when he flipped the bean at the Geni, told it to go away and continued on his magic carpet.



Shouldn't dismiss this altogether, it is also a sign of mature onset diabetes, and can result in loss of vision.

Barbara and her co-star paid a visit to my office years ago. Worked in a small town and they were filming a movie starring her and Dennis Hopper. A lot of the filming was just outside of my office and they both came in to use my phone. Nice folks!

LOL

That would likely be "Paris Trout".

I had them frequent enough until i was 27-28. None since i cured them then as previously explained.