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Fillin' In the Gap...... #11924888 03/24/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. So in keeping with my mantra of "No More New Builds", I decided it was time to just fill in a couple blank spaces from my parts bin:

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11924900 03/24/17 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,306 Durham, CA Higginez Campfire Ranger Higginez Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,306 Durham, CA Open canvas... Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again! Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11924983 03/25/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. What started this whole thing was last fall I bought several triggers to replace the stock ones on a couple three guns that needed upgrading. No time like the present to get an extra....just in case.....

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11925003 03/25/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Shortly there after, I thought it best to get a stock on order from Mcmillan, so as not to be caught flatfooted.....just in case, ya know..... (no new builds) Figgered I could always peddle it if nothing materialized in the future.....

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11925031 03/25/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Then a month or so later, wouldn't ya know it, Brunos had free shipping on in stock Kreiger barrels. Well who's gonna pass up free schitt? Just so happened they had a eight twist 6.5 in a Rem Varmint contour on the shelf. Hell's bells, I even got me a reamer that has 6.5 etched on it too.......destiny lives.....

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11925431 03/25/17 Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,834 To Close to Milwaukee; To Far ... WiFowler Campfire Tracker WiFowler Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,834 To Close to Milwaukee; To Far ... OK Al. I'll say it . . . 6.5 Creedmoor. I never thought I'd grow up to be a grumpy old man, but I did, and I'm killin' it.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11925451 03/25/17 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,349 Virginia, Scott County. N Nessmuk Campfire Tracker Nessmuk Campfire Tracker N Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,349 Virginia, Scott County. Is this like "mind the gap"? https://www.google.com/amp/thechive...ind-the-best-gaps-of-2015-67-photos/amp/ Last edited by Nessmuk; 03/25/17. I am the NorthEast WoodsBeast! "System version 1.3, divorced"

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... Nessmuk #11925571 03/25/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by Nessmuk Is this like "mind the gap"? https://www.google.com/amp/thechive...ind-the-best-gaps-of-2015-67-photos/amp/ Not really, but appropriate regardless......thumbs up....

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... WiFowler #11925626 03/25/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by WiFowler OK Al. I'll say it . . . 6.5 Creedmoor. Sorry Deano.....no Crapmore here......

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11926074 03/25/17 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,721 TN K Kaleb Campfire Outfitter Kaleb Campfire Outfitter K Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,721 TN Originally Posted by aalf So in keeping with my mantra of "No More New Builds", I decided it was time to just fill in a couple blank spaces from my parts bin: lol I like how you think....

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11926078 03/25/17 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,721 TN K Kaleb Campfire Outfitter Kaleb Campfire Outfitter K Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,721 TN I don't know what he's going to build but I bet it will shoot 7" groups at 1600 yards give or take ......grin

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11926079 03/25/17 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana I'm betting 6.5x47 “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11926321 03/25/17 Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 419 Moscow Idaho S strictlyRUM Campfire Member strictlyRUM Campfire Member S Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 419 Moscow Idaho Duh? 6.5 GAP as in 6.5 Swammy with GAPs name on it. Last edited by strictlyRUM; 03/25/17.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11926408 03/25/17 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana 6.5 PRC “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11926933 03/25/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. In for a penny, in for a pound......so full steam ahead.... Found an action in stock, exactly what I wanted: Bat VR, short action, repeater, melanited, integral recoil lug, integral 20 MOA picatinny rail, and a tactical bolt knob. Bombs away....

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... Kimber7man #11927344 03/26/17 Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,834 To Close to Milwaukee; To Far ... WiFowler Campfire Tracker WiFowler Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,834 To Close to Milwaukee; To Far ... Originally Posted by Kimber7man 6.5 PRC He'd be the first kid on the block or that I know of with a 6.5PRC. I never thought I'd grow up to be a grumpy old man, but I did, and I'm killin' it.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11927353 03/26/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Forgot one spec....473" boltface........

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11927646 03/26/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. As soon as the action came in, I boxed it, the barrel, and reamer all up for the ride to the smith. Weren't but a few days later and I was greeted with a return package. Everyone should get one of these with their new tube as well:

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11927705 03/26/17 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820 Originally Posted by aalf As soon as the action came in, I boxed it, the barrel, and reamer all up for the ride to the smith. Weren't but a few days later and I was greeted with a return package. Proof aalf is a player.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... mathman #11927859 03/26/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by mathman Proof aalf is a player. Whatchoo talkin' about Willis.......

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... WiFowler #11928033 03/26/17 Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,129 A Ackleyfan Campfire Outfitter Ackleyfan Campfire Outfitter A Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,129 Originally Posted by WiFowler Originally Posted by Kimber7man 6.5 PRC He'd be the first kid on the block or that I know of with a 6.5PRC. George over at GA precision has been shooting a 6.5 PRC for a little bit...

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11928708 03/26/17 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,647 2 270jrk Campfire Regular 270jrk Campfire Regular 2 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,647 Aalf, what's the barrel stub machined into?

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... 270jrk #11929652 03/26/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by 270jrk Aalf, what's the barrel stub machined into? The finish reamer is run partially into the stub. It let's you check for adequate neck clearance on loaded rounds, initial seating depths, in regards to the lands for any bullet, and precisely measure fired brass for bumping shoulders.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11929686 03/26/17 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest Originally Posted by aalf [/URL] Good idea. Can't wait to see what you've come up with but I have an idea. Since we talked last in December, this will be your second or third "no new builds" rifle. LMAO WWP53D

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11929699 03/26/17 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820 Originally Posted by aalf Originally Posted by mathman Proof aalf is a player. Whatchoo talkin' about Willis....... It ain't everybody who is able to drop off stuff at a 'smith who provides the level of precision you require and get it back in just a few days.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... SKane #11930363 03/27/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by SKane Good idea. Any smith worth his salt should include a seat/neck gauge.....

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11930424 03/27/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Reamer specs.....

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11930433 03/27/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Overall length with a 123 Amax in the lands:

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11930446 03/27/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. 130 Berger VLD seated about this much in the lands at 2.735" to start load work:

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11930651 03/27/17 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,878 Bozeman, MT C Carl_Ross Campfire Regular Carl_Ross Campfire Regular C Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,878 Bozeman, MT Do those x47's shoot? Empirical results rule!

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... Carl_Ross #11931128 03/27/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by Carl_Ross Do those x47's shoot? Not really.....shoulda probably built a Crapmore, but I'm saddled w/ this reamer.....

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11931150 03/27/17 Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,129 A Ackleyfan Campfire Outfitter Ackleyfan Campfire Outfitter A Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,129 Originally Posted by aalf Originally Posted by SKane Good idea. Any smith worth his salt should include a seat/neck gauge..... Have quite a few on the loading bench.... pretty handy tools!

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11932219 03/27/17 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,209 E. WA / N. ID high_country_ Campfire Outfitter high_country_ Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,209 E. WA / N. ID It's a common practice for me. I'm going to dump the end of the blank anyhow, and it's gotta get indicated in.....so what's 5 mins shoving the reamer before I lop it off? Originally Posted by BrentD I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11933123 03/28/17 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,638 Midwest Originally Posted by aalf Originally Posted by SKane Good idea. Any smith worth his salt should include a seat/neck gauge..... The last couple I had done came with them. Handy dandy. WWP53D

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11933505 03/28/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Final piece of the puzzle is a scope. Decided to slum another Nightforce for a while. Hope it tracks......

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11935407 03/29/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Since I'm still a couple months off on the stock to show from McMillan, I stole a Marksman off one of my prairie dog guns to tide me over. Next, I get the barreled action bolted in, then proceed to getting the Seekins rings lapped & bolted on, the scope mounted up, and then get the NF boresighted looking out the picture window on a spot in the neighbor's backyard. Shazaam......

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11935773 03/29/17 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,819 Montana 6 6MMWASP Campfire Tracker 6MMWASP Campfire Tracker 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,819 Montana What's not to like about that one!

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11937128 03/29/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Time for load work.... I knew out of the gate that I wanted to shoot Berger 130 VLD's, and based on past experience with the 47, Varget was the powder of choice. However, the barrel is always boss. I was not to be disappointed........ Naturally, I had a nasty little crosswind to deal with that day. I walked the target out to 200 yards, set up the Ohler, and proceeded to shoot 3 shot groups round robin in half grain increments:

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11937706 03/30/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Found two nodes...... 38 grains had an ES of 3 39.5 grains had an ES of 7. Next up.....showdown betwixt the two......

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11937744 03/30/17 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,820 What's the largest barrel contour you'd use in the Marksman stock?

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11937851 03/30/17 Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 937 NJ/PA B BurninDupont Campfire Regular BurninDupont Campfire Regular B Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 937 NJ/PA Sweet rifle Alf. May I ask what barrel contour you used and also what stock you have on order to complete the build? Is it another marksman? Thanks

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... BurninDupont #11937892 03/30/17 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,306 Durham, CA Higginez Campfire Ranger Higginez Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,306 Durham, CA Originally Posted by BurninDupont Sweet rifle Alf. May I ask what barrel contour you used and also what stock you have on order to complete the build? Is it another marksman? Thanks What trigger are you gonna run aalf? Cartridge? Do you have a reamer? Scope? Blind mag? Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again! Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... mathman #11937895 03/30/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by mathman What's the largest barrel contour you'd use in the Marksman stock? I've got a couple three barrels in Heavy Varmint/MTU/AMU contours, and they all fit in the Marksmans with room to spare. The Marksman has the same forend as an A-5 in width and length. You could run a straight 1.250" and still have flats on the top of both sides of the forend, which measure about 1.450" out to out.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... BurninDupont #11937908 03/30/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by BurninDupont Sweet rifle Alf. May I ask what barrel contour you used and also what stock you have on order to complete the build? Is it another marksman? Thanks.... Barrel is an eight twist Kreiger Remington Varmint contour. Yes, another Marksman on the way. I had to take the bolt stop out of the Bat action so it would bolt into this stock for load work till it shows. I've dropped the bolt on the bench a couple times till I got used to no stop.....

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11937938 03/30/17 Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 937 NJ/PA B BurninDupont Campfire Regular BurninDupont Campfire Regular B Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 937 NJ/PA Appreciate the info

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... Higginez #11937948 03/30/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by Higbean What trigger are you gonna run? Trigger Tech Originally Posted by Higbean Cartridge? 6.5x47 Lapua Originally Posted by Higbean Do you have a reamer? Yes I have my own reamer. Originally Posted by Higbean Scope? Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x50 w/ MOART reticle Originally Posted by Higbean Blind mag? Regular BDL floorplate.....feeds just fine thank you.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11939136 03/30/17 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,446 GREENSBURG, PA 300MAG Campfire Tracker 300MAG Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,446 GREENSBURG, PA Lapping Seekins rings...????

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... 300MAG #11939403 03/30/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by 300MAG Lapping Seekins rings...???? F'ing A....everything, every time, trust nothing......

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11939423 03/30/17 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,878 Bozeman, MT C Carl_Ross Campfire Regular Carl_Ross Campfire Regular C Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,878 Bozeman, MT Looks like another shooter, to no ones surprise. Those Bat's are nice... How similar are the loads you've ended up with across your various 6.5x47L barrels? Empirical results rule!

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... Carl_Ross #11939798 03/31/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by Carl_Ross Looks like another shooter, to no ones surprise. Those Bat's are nice... How similar are the loads you've ended up with across your various 6.5x47L barrels? Thanks Carl....wished all mine were Bats, but......$$$$ Loads are pretty much the same across the board. With 123/130 class, 37.5 to 38.0 grains hits a node and 39.5 is the top node, with this lot of Varget anyway.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11940071 03/31/17 Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,878 Bozeman, MT C Carl_Ross Campfire Regular Carl_Ross Campfire Regular C Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,878 Bozeman, MT Interesting...my primary competition load last year was 130 Hybrids and 37.4 of Varget. It worked well, very consistent velocities. Empirical results rule!

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11940083 03/31/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by aalf Found two nodes...... 38 grains had an ES of 3 39.5 grains had an ES of 7. Next up.....showdown betwixt the two...... I loaded up 20 of each, and gave them a go at 100-200-300-400. Virtual tie that day, each "winning" 2 yardages, in less than ideal winds. Went out several days later in better testing conditions. 38 grains: 200).560" 300).820" 400)3.100" 500)3.350" 39.5 grains: 200).1.230" 300)1.870" 400)1.180" 500)1.465"

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11941436 03/31/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Final test...... I gathered up my neck sizer, priming tool, Wilson seater, and filled 12 plastic vials with 39.5 grains of Varget, plus bullets & primers, then proceeded to shoot one case 12 times. Every time, opening and closing the bolt was a one finger affair, the case never got tight in the chamber, and the primer pockets stayed snug though out......cool. I'm there.....

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11941482 03/31/17 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 11,521 Edge of the map Kenneth Campfire Outfitter Kenneth Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 11,521 Edge of the map Some Sunny calm morning, I'd enjoy just sitting on a bucket watching aalf nail targets in the far distance. Mad skills.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11941630 03/31/17 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida Originally Posted by aalf So in keeping with my mantra of "No More New Builds", I decided it was time to just fill in a couple blank spaces from my parts bin: TFF Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11943697 04/01/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Took it out a couple times to play at LR. 500 yards: 720 yards: 1000 yards: 1200 yards:

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11943776 04/01/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Of course the wind progressively got worse as the distances increased. I generally toss out 2-3 lids off the Krylon spray cans for rough zeroing in the dirt for initial wind guesses. Once at 1200, I gave a couple MOA more wind from my 1K zero, and let one go. That still landed left, so I clicked to the impact and shot again.....just under the lid. A couple clicks up and the 3rd shot sent the cap flying...yee haa... I moved over to the steel and the 1st shot landed, but with the mirage, I had no idea where. 2nd shot landed in the dirt, just left. 3rd shot, I held on the right edge, and it went in the same spot in the dirt....dammit. 4th shot, I held more right and heard the impact. 5th shot, same hold, another hit, but still no clue where. Gathered up my shiit and drove down to check things out. Gawd damn.....that'll work: The 3 on the plate measure 2 inches even....I like it.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... Kenneth #11946091 04/03/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by Kenneth Some Sunny calm morning, I'd enjoy just sitting on a bucket watching aalf nail targets in the far distance. Mad skills. Bet I could scrounge up a real chair.......

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11947557 04/03/17 Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 920 Colorado starsky Campfire Regular starsky Campfire Regular Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 920 Colorado Well, damn. That'll work.

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11950895 04/05/17 Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 937 NJ/PA B BurninDupont Campfire Regular BurninDupont Campfire Regular B Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 937 NJ/PA Alf, could you please tell me how far into the lands (or out) your load is, and where you start load development at in relation to the lands? Thank you

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... BurninDupont #11951702 04/05/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by BurninDupont Alf, could you please tell me how far into the lands (or out) your load is, and where you start load development at in relation to the lands? Generally I always start .015"-.020" in the lands, leaving only one direction to go testing seating depths. I don't care if it fits in the magazine or not, I'm after best accuracy first. 130 Berger VLD seated about this much in the lands at 2.735" to start load work:

Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11953160 04/06/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Filled up 24 milk jugs with water & 4-5 drops of food coloring: Spread 'em out up the hill towards the lone tree, from 550 to 1020: The players, left to right, 22-204, 6 Dasher, and the new 6.5x47 Lapua:

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11953174 04/06/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. No survivors: Looking back: Carnage:

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11953429 04/06/17 Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,834 To Close to Milwaukee; To Far ... WiFowler Campfire Tracker WiFowler Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,834 To Close to Milwaukee; To Far ... Glad to see you picked up your trash. I never thought I'd grow up to be a grumpy old man, but I did, and I'm killin' it.

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... WiFowler #11953486 04/06/17 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,103 NC C coleridge Campfire Regular coleridge Campfire Regular C Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,103 NC Looks like fun & nice build... Likely a stupid question with the fresh 6.5 build but... More/easier hits with the dasher or the x47?

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... coleridge #11955553 04/06/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by coleridge Likely a stupid question with the fresh 6.5 build but... More/easier hits with the dasher or the x47? Real world....not a lot of difference, of course accuracy plays a role as well. From a pure numbers perspective, the 47 wins. My Dasher load is on the soft side for the heat of SD summers, 2950 with 105 Amaxes & it's .500 BC. The 47 is a hair over 3000 with .552 Bergers, at the expense of a little more recoil. I could likely shoot pointed Hybrids at 3000+ in the Dasher, which would make it basically a tie with the 47. The 22-204 is no slouch either with .480 pointed 80's at 3025. They're all fun......

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11959192 04/08/17 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 5,490 Between the Treasure and Magic A Akbob5 Campfire Tracker Akbob5 Campfire Tracker A Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 5,490 Between the Treasure and Magic Great thread (as always). Thanks for sharing Aalf! Bob Enjoy life now -- it has an expiration date. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... Akbob5 #11960203 04/09/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by Akbob5 Great thread (as always). Thanks for sharing Aalf! Much abliged....my pleasure....

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11960251 04/09/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Managed to find a couple three more jugs, so I got them filled up, drove out to the favorite spot again, and spread them out up the hill from 625 to 1350 yards. I moved my shooting spot back through the gate up into the farmer's field a ways, giving me another 150 yards to play with from the time before: Today's players...... 22-204 - 6 Dasher - 6x47 Lapua - 6.5x47 Lapua Aftermath: Shot of the day was a 2nd round hit at 1350 with the new 6.5X47 lapua:

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11960890 04/09/17 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 22,884 D DakotaDeer Campfire Ranger DakotaDeer Campfire Ranger D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 22,884 How well does the 22-204 hold up at longer ranges? It seems like if it is quite capable of hitting, then it would have the least recoil by quite a bit. That would make it more fun. How does it compare to the Dasher recoil-wise?

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11961692 04/09/17 Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,024 Minnesota 338Rem Campfire Tracker 338Rem Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,024 Minnesota An observation and a comment. 1. AALF drinks a lot of milk, or juice, or WETF. 2. Y'all better hope AALF never decides to get into the prostitution bidness and become a pimp, cause all his girls will be hot, real lookers, and all you boys will be wanting to spend some time with them. PS. I take the cows were not bugging you? When its time to fight, you fight like you are the third monkey on the ramp to get on Noah's Arc... and brother, it is starting to rain! The chair is against the wall.

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... 338Rem #11963153 04/10/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by 338Rem An observation and a comment. 1. AALF drinks a lot of milk, or juice, or WETF. 2. Y'all better hope AALF never decides to get into the prostitution bidness and become a pimp, cause all his girls will be hot, real lookers, and all you boys will be wanting to spend some time with them. PS. I take the cows were not bugging you? 1) Was beginning to look like a recycling center around here. 2) Hoes for bros man. 3) Luckily Farmer Brown hasn't moved them into the pasture .....yet.

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... DakotaDeer #11963212 04/10/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by DakotaDeer How well does the 22-204 hold up at longer ranges? It seems like if it is quite capable of hitting, then it would have the least recoil by quite a bit. That would make it more fun. How does it compare to the Dasher recoil-wise? It holds up pretty well, but spotting impacts way out there can be problematic some times. It certainly is capable of hitting. Oddly, one jug at 1250 or 1300 had a hole dead center but only a couple inches of water leaked out. Perfect hole in and out. The pasture is growing up fast now, as I probably missed spotting a third of the impacts beyond 1K, plus the hill leveling out on top doesn't help either. Recoil is noticeably lighter, even with a 3 pound lighter gun. This one shoots 80 grain pointed VLD's at 3115. I've gone beyond 1400, but set the targets in the fields before planting, or after harvest so you can see the impacts in the dirt. It is fun. I built this one strictly as a LR plinker, and it handles the job nicely.

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11963270 04/10/17 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,306 Durham, CA Higginez Campfire Ranger Higginez Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,306 Durham, CA What bc are you figuring with the pointed 80 VLD's? Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again! Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... Higginez #11964297 04/10/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by Higbean What bc are you figuring with the pointed 80 VLD's? I'm using .480 for BC.

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11964372 04/11/17 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,306 Durham, CA Higginez Campfire Ranger Higginez Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 17,306 Durham, CA How fast are you pushing them? Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again! Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... Higginez #11964809 04/11/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by Higbean How fast are you pushing them? This gun shoots them at 3115 fps....

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11979100 04/17/17 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 16,512 Louisiana 65BR Campfire Ranger 65BR Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 16,512 Louisiana Nice thread. Down to one six point five. It's a 47. Having gone thru a few Swedes, 6.5-308, 260's, and Creedmoor - I am not left wanting. Yet another nice build Aalf. May have missed it. Barrel length? Enjoy.

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11979533 04/18/17 Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 11,273 High Country Colorado Tanner Campfire Outfitter Tanner Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 11,273 High Country Colorado Love how that 6x47 looks Al. Nice shooting as per usual... I am enjoying my 6.5x47 quite a bit too. Tanner

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11979877 04/18/17 Joined: May 2003 Posts: 5,792 The Big Country H Hondo64d Campfire Tracker Hondo64d Campfire Tracker H Joined: May 2003 Posts: 5,792 The Big Country 6.5x47s are easy peasy. Kinda like a .308... but with better ballistics and less recoil and less powder... oh, never mind. The only way it's like a .308 is that both are VERY easy to find accurate loads for. John If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... aalf #11980594 04/18/17 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,718 2 222Rem Campfire Outfitter 222Rem Campfire Outfitter 2 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,718 Great thread as usual Al. You inspire us all................ towards our financial peril. I'm telling my wife there's someone who drinks as much milk as my son and I do. She won't believe it w/o your photos. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. --Winston Churchill

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... Tanner #11980921 04/18/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by Tanner Love how that 6x47 looks Al. Nice shooting as per usual... I am enjoying my 6.5x47 quite a bit too. Hard not to like either 6 or 6.5 Lapua. I was rooting for you to not sell yours and have to start calling you names.... The six is a single shot 40-XB-KS I bought new in 22-250 with the factory 2 oz trigger. It's had several barrels and stocks since new with this being the latest. I do have another barrel for it in a 14 twist 6 Dasher for PD's.

Re: Check Out These Jugs.... 222Rem #11980947 04/18/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by 222Rem Great thread as usual Al. You inspire us all................ towards our financial peril. Thanks....I retire to perspire, to inspire in ire....... Originally Posted by 222Rem I'm telling my wife there's someone who drinks as much milk as my son and I do. She won't believe it w/o your photos. I always have to buy 2 gallons at a time. If I get below a half gallon, I start to panic. I was born & raised in a cheese factory....my middle name should have been milk or cheese......

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11983604 04/19/17 Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,679 Virginia Matt in Virginia Campfire Regular Matt in Virginia Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 2,679 Virginia Originally Posted by aalf Originally Posted by Higbean What trigger are you gonna run? Bix'n Andy 700 with Top Safety Originally Posted by Higbean Cartridge? 6.5x47 Lapua Originally Posted by Higbean Do you have a reamer? Working on a freebore number with JGS for finish and sizing die reamers Originally Posted by Higbean Scope? Thinking long and hard about a 5.5-22x50 NXS with a ZS Originally Posted by Higbean Blind mag? Sunnyhill 525 and no it does not fit a BDL inlet which sucks and limits stocks choice. They are really inteneded for full custom stocks or some McMillans like D'Arcy's Legend. It is the only Stainless Oberndorf Trigger Guard on the market for a 700 that I am aware of. GREAT guy to work with though Regards, Matt. Btw, Love the McMillan Marksman. Great handle... Sorry for breaking in. Too many similarities. I actually started off with that same BAT VR(20 MOA) and we just did not get along. There is a rear end for every seat...;-) Last edited by Matt in Virginia; 04/19/17. NRA Life Benefactor Member

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11985418 04/20/17 Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,239 MN yukonal Campfire Tracker yukonal Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,239 MN You need a job. Originally Posted by archie_james_c I should have just bought a [bleep] T3...

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... yukonal #11987116 04/21/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by yukonal You need a job. What's this job you speak of???

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... aalf #11987353 04/21/17 Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,239 MN yukonal Campfire Tracker yukonal Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,239 MN Originally Posted by aalf Originally Posted by yukonal You need a job. What's this job you speak of??? That looks like a fun one. Gonna bed it into the new stock, or just screw it in? Greg chamber it? Originally Posted by archie_james_c I should have just bought a [bleep] T3...

Re: Fillin' In the Gap...... yukonal #11988584 04/21/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. aalf OP Campfire Ranger OP aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,129 S.W. Wis. Originally Posted by yukonal That looks like a fun one. As expected, it is. Originally Posted by yukonal Gonna bed it into the new stock, or just screw it in? Most likely just bolt it in.....bedding's over rated..... Originally Posted by yukonal Greg chamber it? Not this one.