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No, it's not a mountain lion, nor is it deer, elk, bear, coyote, or wolf. All are present but it's not any of them. It would be more likely to be geological or atmospheric than any of those .. and it's not them, either.
I hope this is not too harsh, I just don't know how else to say this ... this is not a search to just make the question go away, to sweep it under the mental carpet with a comforting self-lie, mine is a search for CORRECT answers. For now, the correct answer is "I don't know." That's what it will stay until I actually do know. That's what the trail cams and audio gear are for.
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Here be dragons ...
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In wilderness areas with little access I often carry nothing. In areas where there are a lot of tails, 4 wheelers etc. I usually carry a 9mm S&W shield. Have run into some pretty creepy dudes lately.
Been seeing a LOT of lions and sign this winter and spring so might be carrying the shield a little more.
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If I wanted to pack a handgun and be lightweight, I would pack my XDS 9 in an OWB holster.
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Interesting. What do you think it might be? I'm a fellow northern Californian. People may laugh at this, but I don't think it is bigfoot. I've seen 2, probably a 3rd. I follow up on reports, I go look for them. Despite KNOWING they're there, I give less than 50% chance that's what I heard. It doesn't sound like them. No scream, no yell, no holler. From 2-1/4 miles minimum, it was a loud "ahhhhh" sound like the doc tells you to make, maybe a little bit lower, more "breath-y" (if you've had voice lessons, you'll understand), and at that distance, still had a remaining volume about equivalent of two people standing 10 feet apart talking at a comfortable level. I have that on audio recorder. I may well be crazy, but my audio recorder isn't, it's just a machine. I dunno. I really don't know. I can't think of anything reasonable that it could be. I'm not even sure I can think of anything UN-reasonable it could be, but I'm stuck with that audio recording. There IS something out there. Heard it twice. Tom I want to hear more about bigfoot. Apparently lot's of people have seen one, even more have heard one. They have foot prints and various "evidence" but it's still up in the air.
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I have never felt the need to carry in the woods of Colorado unless I am hunting. If I am hunting then the extra weight of a sidearm is a waste of my energy. Carry if it makes you feel safer. I think BeanMan has the right idea. I went on my first wilderness backpack trip in 1958. I've probably gone on an average of 5 or 6 per year, every year, since then. So that makes several hundred trips into the wilderness. Two or three times that many nights and days. I have never been threatened by man or beast in the backcountry. I own a Ruger SP101 .357mag. Lots of people say it's a great concealed carry revolver. But I never carry it when backpacking or hiking in the wilderness. Too heavy. Not worth the effort. There are some places in inner cities where I might carry it. But not in the outdoors. I have carried my Ruger Blackhawk .357mag instead of a rifle, when returning to retrieve the remainder of a carcass. KC
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I am simply unable to grasp the thought process that says carrying a weapon is unnecessary, even silly.... I guess I'm just not that paranoid. KC
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Well all you have to do is be wrong once. Maybe you are a tough guy. Scare everything out there. Never a boy scout I take it.
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I have never been threatened by man or beast in the backcountry. I have. Actually, at the trailhead. I've also come back to my truck to find the gas tank empty from some lowlife sumbitch with a siphon. Trailheads are where you're most likely to run into trouble. When I'm returning to the vehicle, I like to stop a little short where I can see what's going on. I feel much better doing that with my 19 oz. .357.
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I've been more than happy to have either a S&W 357 or a XD 45 on a few occasions. I don't even think about hiking without a pistol, to be quite honest.
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Come to think of it, I've never had someone break into my house either. But that doesn't mean that the first guy who does will find me unprepared.
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These work well for me. Over many a mile in various weather conditions and terrain. Colt's Lightweight Commander .45 ACP. Ruger Security Six .357 Magnum. Guess they'll have to do. L.W.
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If I wanted to pack a handgun and be lightweight, I would pack my XDS 9 in an OWB holster. Or better yet, the same pistol in .45acp. I love my XDS in .45acp!
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I'd love to have one of those Colts.
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If I wanted to pack a handgun and be lightweight, I would pack my XDS 9 in an OWB holster. Or better yet, the same pistol in .45acp. I love my XDS in .45acp! I originally had an xds 45 and liked it, but decided to trade it for an xds 9 for the increased capacity, and quicker follow up shots.
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I'd love to have one of those Colts. I don't blame you. Mine packs mighty handily both out in the boonies or concealed out on the mean streets of a city. L.W.
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I don't live in bear country or anything but i am pretty sure you should never go in the woods hunting or hiking unarmed. I am looking to get something inexpensive for this purpose but not sure what to caliber or pistol to get. I would say a snakes, coyotes, possible rabid racoon would be the only threats. I am looking at a ruger 22/45 target, a s&w m&p .45, and a rossi 971 357 mag. I do already have dies for 38/357 and a ton of 38 spl loaded ammo and have 45 acp dies. Thank you. For bang-per-ounce in a weatherproof gun, consider one of the Kahr polymer pistols... I've owned several. My favorite was the P45. Don't get a P40; that is one tightly-wound snappy be-atch. BUT this only applies if a long smooth trigger pull work for you. It really doesn't for me. So I've switched to Glocks.
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Interesting. What do you think it might be? I'm a fellow northern Californian. People may laugh at this, but I don't think it is bigfoot. I've seen 2, probably a 3rd. I follow up on reports, I go look for them. Despite KNOWING they're there, I give less than 50% chance that's what I heard. It doesn't sound like them. No scream, no yell, no holler. From 2-1/4 miles minimum, it was a loud "ahhhhh" sound like the doc tells you to make, maybe a little bit lower, more "breath-y" (if you've had voice lessons, you'll understand), and at that distance, still had a remaining volume about equivalent of two people standing 10 feet apart talking at a comfortable level. I have that on audio recorder. I may well be crazy, but my audio recorder isn't, it's just a machine. I dunno. I really don't know. I can't think of anything reasonable that it could be. I'm not even sure I can think of anything UN-reasonable it could be, but I'm stuck with that audio recording. There IS something out there. Heard it twice. Tom I want to hear more about bigfoot. Apparently lot's of people have seen one, even more have heard one. They have foot prints and various "evidence" but it's still up in the air. Am I reading this right? You've SEEN two Bigfoots(feets?)?
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Yeah Mooner, I got that also. Not only seen two Bigfeets, but worried about some unknown critter out there!!
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Am I reading this right? You've SEEN two Bigfoots(feets?)? Yes and yes. Tom
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I saw one. Many people have seen them. I've had other experiences believed related to them as well, in my 30 years or so of deer/elk hunting. Can't explain what they are, but know what they look like, and have seen how they act.
And there's other people on the CF who have seen them.
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