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Thanks, didn't see it in the store on Monday night (hardcopy).
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I was in Sportsman's Warehouse this morning in Meridian and at that time they had not yet received their copies of the new regs. Said it'd probably be a few days.
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Same here, so went to F&G.
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We hunt deer in the Wood River valley quite a bit (unit 48). One of my partners has friends with the IDFG. They're saying that the fawn survival in that area this winter is zero. They didn't change the season, though. It won't affect the bigger buck numbers this year but there won't be any replacements for the future.
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Could someone explain to me what they mean exactly by, "Within 1 mile of private land" Does that mean hunting on public (state,county and Federal) land with in 1 mile of any private land (including lumber company), or private land that you own or lease?
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Usually it means ANY private land. Usually the idea is to harass the elk away from farm fields. Give us a specific unit reference and I'll try to interpret what it means.
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I'll put in for moose once again.
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About 15 years ago it was fairly easy to draw an Idaho moose tag. Many units had odds as good as 1 in 3. I drew the 1st time I applied. It was just a year or 2 later when they changed it from 1 moose in a lifetime to 1 of each sex. I got my bull but haven't ever applied for my cow tag.
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I have a friend, born and raised in Sagle, that needed 17 years for a panhandle tag. He drew five or so years ago and shot a nice one.
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Could someone explain to me what they mean exactly by, "Within 1 mile of private land" Does that mean hunting on public (state,county and Federal) land with in 1 mile of any private land (including lumber company), or private land that you own or lease? Idaho (at least use to) specify that the "large corporate timber lands" (or something to that effect) was not deemed "private" land when it came to some hunts up near Potlatch that were private land only hunts. If it does not specify that large timber company lands are excluded as "private" for the hunt you're referring to, I think you're OK. You may want to call IDFG though. What specific hunt are you asking about?
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Usually it means ANY private land. Usually the idea is to harass the elk away from farm fields. Give us a specific unit reference and I'll try to interpret what it means. I was looking at the difference between a A tag and a B tag in unit 1. Why would someone want a B tag over a A? Are elk tags other than control hunts OTC for residents?
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I don't know much at all about unit 1, but elk tags are either OTC or a draw...for residents and non-residents. There's really not another option to distribute tags.
In some units/districts there are caps to the number of tags sold though, if that's what you mean.
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Why would someone want a B tag over a A? The B tag gives more archery opportunity and the A tag gives more "any weapon" (rifle) opportunity. Luckily we don't have to choose a weapon in a lot of units. A guy can hunt archery, rifle, and muzzle loader all on one tag in some units. Idaho is more about quantity of opportunity than quality trophy units, for the good and bad. I have a feeling a lot of cows are going to get killed this year.
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Usually it means ANY private land. Usually the idea is to harass the elk away from farm fields. Give us a specific unit reference and I'll try to interpret what it means. I was looking at the difference between a A tag and a B tag in unit 1. Why would someone want a B tag over a A? Are elk tags other than control hunts OTC for residents? Look at the hunt dates. A tags are more for archery and/or ML hunters. They'll give you a long bow or ML season and a short rifle season. B tags give you much longer rifle seasons. The private land is any private land. You're going to need a land ownership map to figure out what's what. A lot of private land is forested and you can't tell it from public without a map. I suggest a GPS using the OnX map program for detailed boundaries. Of course if you hunt outside of those date restrictions, you can hunt any public land.
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Idaho sucked another $2200 from my credit card...probably get it all back save the app fee though.
I am done applying for another year. Feels good.
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Idaho sucked another $2200 from my credit card...probably get it all back save the app fee though.
I am done applying for another year. Feels good. Guess that means you're not going the elk,deer, antelope route....
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Negative...Cali bighorns. One year I may actually draw it.
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15 or 20 years ago, CA bighorn was a fairly easy draw and they had lots of tags. Some units had 1 in 2 or 3 odds. Then a disease wiped out a bunch of them. They dropped the Owyhee county tags from about 60 to 15 and they've never increased them.
I've never figured out if there's a real difference between the CA and Rocky Mtn versions. I suspect the only difference is which side of the Snake River they live on. I've searched for CA bighorns online and found nothing. They call it a subspecies of the Rocky Mtn but I can't find any difference other than location.
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Usually it means ANY private land. Usually the idea is to harass the elk away from farm fields. Give us a specific unit reference and I'll try to interpret what it means. I was looking at the difference between a A tag and a B tag in unit 1. Why would someone want a B tag over a A? Are elk tags other than control hunts OTC for residents? The Panhandle tags are OTC, I hunted Unit 4 for a number of years. The A Tag gives you more archery and muzzleloader opportunity early in September, and in November and December - late in the year, if you can get into a Zone that has access. However, the challenge with the late seasons is access, the weather can be a big factor in how, and where, you hunt the Panhandle. The B tag is for a gun-only type, and there are folks like that out there. Many of the guys I hunted with over the years would not take up a bow on a bet. They get the range advantage with the B tag, and I've seen a number of Idaho elk at 60-100 yards with bow, that I wouldn't take a hesitate a gun shot at.
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