Dont think much of the newer version. I wanted to like it.
Try not to miss the original.
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My uncle, a cowboy, a favorite, put a bullet through his head in his back yard when he landed on not being pleased with where things were heading. He was 73. This was near twenty years ago. One would be hard pressed to find a tougher, yet kind, man.
Read Tucker is taking over Bill O's spot on FOX monday night. One of his guests will be Jenner. Why does anyone give that freak the time of day. I don't understand it, and him as a guest will be the number one reason I wont be tuning in that show much. Besides it is to easy to watch what interests me on Tucker on youtube and not spend a hour watching 20 minutes of commercials, and other things I don't give one hoot about.
Watched Tucker and Hannity a bit, then switched over to watch True Grit.
No John Wayne, no Kim Darby, no Glen Campbell and no fuggin good.
WTF has happened to the fugging US neighborhood?
No wonder youngsters think True Grit is no good.
Hey now. Y'all gotta be thinking I'm a youngster @ 32. The remake was good (for a movie). I saw the remake before making a point of watching the original. Sure enough, like most movies and things we see on the big and small screens, the original was better.
Sometimes remakes are better. I have yet to see the new "Kong: Skull Island" but somehow I think it will be better than all the previous ones. Why? Special effects and (the former crackhead) Samuel L. Jackson, John C. Reilly and John Goodman. You do have to respect the 1933 original. The 'franchise' is nearly 100 years old. But CGI and hi-def and great sound "bring you into the movie" more than good camera angles. I'm not holding up the new King Kong except as an example of an instance where the new version/remake is better than the original IMO. We're talking 1933 acting and special effects vs. CGI and hi-def sound and image.
In a movie like True Grit, one has to ask oneself how CGI, Bridges and Damon made it better than John Wayne in 1969. No real benefit from CGI or better acting - not saying contemporary acting is better. In fact, the "old" (to me) westerns hold a dear place in my heart. The first one I watched and really paid attention to and liked was "High Noon." Netflixing that one soon as I hit SUBMIT.
Read Tucker is taking over Bill O's spot on FOX monday night. One of his guests will be Jenner. Why does anyone give that freak the time of day.
Ra-ra-ra-ra-ratings. I don't have FOX on my cable plan. I'll be YouTubing it after to see what Tucker did to him (the eunuch with makeup). Don't want to see what's become of Bruce Jenner, don't care. Wanna see if Tucker skewers him. So far I have liked Tucker. I'm glad they gave him O'Reilly's spot regardless of what I think of BO and his firing.
I don't think anyone could remake a John Wayne movie and make it better. Remember Stagecoach? It's been remade twice since the 1939 original, and got worse each time. Same way with Red River. They made a remake starring James Arness, who I liked, but he was not Duke, not by a longshot. By the way, went to sleep in my recliner last night, and woke up to see the original Red River coming on. Had to watch it again, for probably the 88th time, and it's still just as good as it was the first time. Same way with all of them. I'd guess I've watched The Searchers more than any of Wayne's films, and could sit through it again a 100 more times.
Watched Tucker and Hannity a bit, then switched over to watch True Grit.
No John Wayne, no Kim Darby, no Glen Campbell and no fuggin good.
WTF has happened to the fugging US neighborhood?
No wonder youngsters think True Grit is no good.
My parents took me to see the original True Grit when it came out. It was great. I took my kids to see the Coen brothers version when it came out. After several year's reflection, the newer one is better. Bridges is a talented actor who is no stranger to westerns. I didn't think either Campbell or Darby sucked, as many did, but their newer counterparts were better. I don't know who the actor was who played Col. Stonehill, but there was no way you could best Strother Martin. Tom Cheney played by Josh Brolin was much more menacing than Jeff Corey. The scene at the end with Cole Younger and Frank James was just killer-even though I don't know how you could top John Wayne jumping a fence with his hoss.
The two movies are very different, and the Coen brothers wouldn't call theirs a re-make, just a different take on the same base material. Neither followed the novel exactly.
I don't think anyone could remake a John Wayne movie and make it better. Remember Stagecoach? It's been remade twice since the 1939 original, and got worse each time. Same way with Red River. They made a remake starring James Arness, who I liked, but he was not Duke, not by a longshot. By the way, went to sleep in my recliner last night, and woke up to see the original Red River coming on. Had to watch it again, for probably the 88th time, and it's still just as good as it was the first time. Same way with all of them. I'd guess I've watched The Searchers more than any of Wayne's films, and could sit through it again a 100 more times.
The Searchers transcends the genre and is the best movie ever made. [bleep] watching some rich guy die clutching a snow-globe.
Much was made of Stagecoach and Red River. I've never thought either was that great and I flat-out have never liked The Shootist. Wayne was a good-enough actor who could take essentially silly material like The Cowboys, and make it watchable. He could also remake the same movie several times, Rio Bravo, El Dorado, Rio Lobo, and make a decent movie each time.
The third True Grit, (the second starred Warren Oates as Rooster) had much better weapons also. It was incongruous to hear Bridges' Rooster talk about using two Navy Colts in New Mexico, but then use two Dragoons instead, in the shootout with the Pepper gang. They should've used Navies in it and he should've used a Dragoon in Wild Bill in the Springfield shootout.
Watched Tucker and Hannity a bit, then switched over to watch True Grit.
No John Wayne, no Kim Darby, no Glen Campbell and no fuggin good.
WTF has happened to the fugging US neighborhood?
No wonder youngsters think True Grit is no good.
The WTF is called Public Education
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I noticed just yesterday during a downpour that water seems more wet now than it was 40 years ago. I'm also pretty certain the sky is a slightly different color blue.
My uncle, a cowboy, a favorite, put a bullet through his head in his back yard when he landed on not being pleased with where things were heading. He was 73. This was near twenty years ago. One would be hard pressed to find a tougher, yet kind, man.
I have to disagree on "The Searchers". I never felt that Wayne fit the character in the book. Ben Johnson would have been better. How many here ever read the book?
i like them both. i thought jeff bridges was excellent. if you want to see a real POS movie, watch hateful 8. man what a awful movie that could have been done so much better. glad it was a freebie.
I have to disagree on "The Searchers". I never felt that Wayne fit the character in the book. Ben Johnson would have been better. How many here ever read the book?
I read the book. Alan LeMay who wrote it, also wrote The Unforgiven, an excellent, similar story of the same timeframe.
The Searchers movie wasn't the same story as the book, just based on it. True Grit I or III was much closer to the respective book than The Searchers was. John Wayne was perfect for the movie and I think The Searchers was his favorite movie. He even named one of his sons after the movie's main character.
I noticed just yesterday during a downpour that water seems more wet now than it was 40 years ago. I'm also pretty certain the sky is a slightly different color blue.
I have not noticed that, but gravity is a whole lot stronger than it was 50 years ago. miles
The Jeff Bridges version matched the book better than Wayne's version.
So? It still sucked!
Did not suck,was just different.John Wayne was John Wayne no matter if he played Rooster Cogburn or Davey Crocket at the Alamo.People went to John Wayne movies to see John Wayne.As an actor he was one dimensional.He was very good at playing John Wayne.
Its all right to be white!! Stupidity left unattended will run rampant Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
Hey now. Y'all gotta be thinking I'm a youngster @ 32. The remake was good (for a movie). I saw the remake before making a point of watching the original. Sure enough, like most movies and things we see on the big and small screens, the original was better.
Sometimes remakes are better. I have yet to see the new "Kong: Skull Island" but somehow I think it will be better than all the previous ones. Why? Special effects and (the former crackhead) Samuel L. Jackson, John C. Reilly and John Goodman. You do have to respect the 1933 original. The 'franchise' is nearly 100 years old. But CGI and hi-def and great sound "bring you into the movie" more than good camera angles. I'm not holding up the new King Kong except as an example of an instance where the new version/remake is better than the original IMO. We're talking 1933 acting and special effects vs. CGI and hi-def sound and image.
Oh now you done it!!! The original KK is a personal top three for me and one the greatest movies ever made. It happened to make Marion c Cooper a personal hero of mine. His life story is one of the most incredible, admirable, and inspiring of the American spirit.
I cannot stand CG and don't think I am alone. Every subsequent Kong has seemed less than the preceding. The Jack Black version had a few (very few) moments - thanks in part to Naomi, but over the top silly action scenes do little to compel and are a poor substitute for suspense. So is excessive gore or plain gross. Suspense being more nuanced and difficult but so much more captivating if a little is left to the imagination. Somehow the idea that 'more' is better is beaten in to every modern producer. How big is this new Kong again??? And who taught it pugilism? Can you really survive a narrow pathway with raptors and stampeding brontosaurus? Ugh.
Older films needed a bit of imagination and as a result involved the viewer to a greater degree. I find far too many newer ones bordering on insult.
Becoming a curmudgeon I guess.
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nutsacktroller: Spoken like a TRUE, self described "turd-like person"! The movie your turdlike brain described as "sucking" earned MORE than $215,000,000 (two hundred and fifteen million dollars) in profit for its producers - SO FAR! Remember turd that is PROFIT - money above the costs of making the movie! Then the movie that the turd in question here describes as "sucking" was nominated for 10 (ten!) Academy Awards and 8 (eight) British Academy of Film Awards and NUMEROUS other awards as well as these. Add to that the fact that "I" actually (to my great surprise and pleasure!) enjoyed the Jeff Bridges version of True Grit more than the original film. So, thats the "SO" there nutsacktroller - you ought to try to keep your ignorance a bit more of a secret - but I guess that would be impossible for a self described TURD? Sheesh. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
It means you've been through the proverbial ringer....for better or worse.
No offense intended Mooner. I am aware of the inference. But, if you dissect this statement to its literal definition it means nothing. It's just some goofy quoted jibberish from junior high that makes the other children laugh.
"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee
nutsacktroller: Spoken like a TRUE, self described "turd-like person"! The movie your turdlike brain described as "sucking" earned MORE than $215,000,000 (two hundred and fifteen million dollars) in profit for its producers - SO FAR! Remember turd that is PROFIT - money above the costs of making the movie! Then the movie that the turd in question here describes as "sucking" was nominated for 10 (ten!) Academy Awards and 8 (eight) British Academy of Film Awards and NUMEROUS other awards as well as these. Add to that the fact that "I" actually (to my great surprise and pleasure!) enjoyed the Jeff Bridges version of True Grit more than the original film. So, thats the "SO" there nutsacktroller - you ought to try to keep your ignorance a bit more of a secret - but I guess that would be impossible for a self described TURD? Sheesh. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
regardless of if someone likes the movie or not, you need the dogshit slapped out of you.
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It means you've been through the proverbial ringer....for better or worse.
No offense intended Mooner. I am aware of the inference. But, if you dissect this statement to its literal definition it means nothing. It's just some goofy quoted jibberish from junior high that makes the others laugh.
Non taken!
JTx gets a little sideways at times. I don't take it too seriously and enjoy it.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
"Can't hardly stand the sound of that whiny little gal in the original."
Me too. I kept hoping Wayne would haul off and knock her on her ass.
I din't know there was another version of Grit with Warren Oates. I'll have to chase that one down. I do have copies of the one with Wayne and with Bridges. Like them both.
I have all three copies of King Kong. Love the first one. As kid I though Faye Wray was hot, even with her phony Mayfair accent all Hollywood females were suppose to talk with. The second while watchable was really a stinker. The third added back scenes that were deleted from the original, mainly where they all fell into that canyon and got eaten up my nasty critters. The original directors were right if removing them. Naomi Watts made watching that one a pleasure. Paul B.
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The Jeff Bridges version matched the book better than Wayne's version.
Not really. There were a number of scenes in True Grit II that were not in Portis' book. I.e, the entire bit of the hanging man in the tree, the "wild" man scene, etc.
Of course, in True Grit I, some of that was created through the imagination of the screenwriter. I.e., the Texas Ranger, LaBoeuf (Glen Campbell), was not killed, but after the fighting was over and Rooster had taken Mattie away for medical help, recovered the corpse of Tom Chaney from the pit of rattlesnakes and took it back to Texas.
That's just the way things are done in Hollywood. No need to try and make sense of it.
L.W.
"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830s.)
My uncle, a cowboy, a favorite, put a bullet through his head in his back yard when he landed on not being pleased with where things were heading. He was 73. This was near twenty years ago. One would be hard pressed to find a tougher, yet kind, man.
Fascinating.
The word always reminds me of a joke. Each day, the teacher had a "word of the day", and she would call on a student to use the word of the day in a sentence. She learned right off, she couldn't trust little Johnny, because he would always use the word in a "dirty" sentence. So she had to be careful about calling on him. Well one day, the word was fascinate. She thought to herself that Johnny couldn't really do much with fascinate, so she called on him. "Johnny, can you use the word fascinate, in a sentence", she asked. "I sure can" said Johnny. "My parents bought my sister a beautiful sweater that has 10 buttons on it, for Christmas. But, her phokeing tits are so big, she can only fasten 8. See you Monday, teacher".
I watched In Harms Way last night. Another great John Wayne movie! I thought True Git II was ok. I liked Jeff Bridges in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot also.
Never read the book, "True Grit". And I watched John Wayne portray "Rooster" several times before I saw him in "True Grit".
John Wayne is the definitive "Rooster" to me. Anyone else attempting to play the part makes for a damned poor substitute.
And I loved Kim Darby as the spoiled little rich girl standing up and becoming a woman to do her duty as she saw it.
I finally watched the Jeff Bridges version of "True Grit" when it came out at Red Box. I was sorely disappointed in the film, but then, I had expected to be.
I don't think I have ever agreed with the critics on any film. That should not be any surprise, as I view films from a very different perspective than the critics. The critics are, as a group, priviliged, liberal, elitest ass holes. Just like the actors, producers, and directors.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
I really enjoyed the remake and appreciate Hollywood doing good westerns. Westerns are rare these days and I'd really like to see more of them so I'll try to support them for their westerns rather then run them down. 👍
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Hondo is my favorite Wayne movie. I'm also a fan of Angel and the Badman.
as for Tucker, I think people are going to be disappointed with him in the long run. Well, if you are a fan of Bill O' Reilly you won't be.
The Searchers
I like The Searchers, and Red River, but to me , no movie personifies John Wayne like Hondo. Its only downfall is it was made during the 3D movie craze of the 50's. I guess people knock it because its not a John Ford Directed Western.
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What does this mean? Do you ever consider the words that come out of your mouth?
Actually thats what a Navy man does while on the beach.Goes back a long way in Navy History.Been there, done it!!!
Its all right to be white!! Stupidity left unattended will run rampant Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
Hondo is my favorite Wayne movie. I'm also a fan of Angel and the Badman.
as for Tucker, I think people are going to be disappointed with him in the long run. Well, if you are a fan of Bill O' Reilly you won't be.
The Searchers
"The Searchers" is my favorite John Wayne Movie! And John Ford new how to film & direct, too. If you ever get a chance to see Monument Valley up close and in person, it is unbelievably huge, and well worth the trip!!!
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The Jeff Bridges version matched the book better than Wayne's version.
So? It still sucked!
Did not suck,was just different.John Wayne was John Wayne no matter if he played Rooster Cogburn or Davey Crocket at the Alamo.People went to John Wayne movies to see John Wayne.As an actor he was one dimensional.He was very good at playing John Wayne.
Yeah, it was different, like quueerr. Now that we agree, GFY.
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nutsacktroller: Spoken like a TRUE, self described "turd-like person"! The movie your turdlike brain described as "sucking" earned MORE than $215,000,000 (two hundred and fifteen million dollars) in profit for its producers - SO FAR! Remember turd that is PROFIT - money above the costs of making the movie! Then the movie that the turd in question here describes as "sucking" was nominated for 10 (ten!) Academy Awards and 8 (eight) British Academy of Film Awards and NUMEROUS other awards as well as these. Add to that the fact that "I" actually (to my great surprise and pleasure!) enjoyed the Jeff Bridges version of True Grit more than the original film. So, thats the "SO" there nutsacktroller - you ought to try to keep your ignorance a bit more of a secret - but I guess that would be impossible for a self described TURD? Sheesh. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
regardless of if someone likes the movie or not, you need the dogshit slapped out of you.
i like them both. i thought jeff bridges was excellent. if you want to see a real POS movie, watch hateful 8. man what a awful movie that could have been done so much better. glad it was a freebie.
I am embarrassed for anyone associated with Hateful 8.
Broncos are officially the worst team in the nation this year.
Jeff Bridges, as I said, is no stranger to the western. He started with The Last Picture Show, a modern western, also written by McMurtry. He starred in Bad Company, a film about Kansas during the War Between the States, filmed not far from here which several of my family had bit parts in. He was in Wild Bill, a superior telling of Wild Bill Hickock's life and death. Probably several I'm forgetting.
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