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This might be of more interest to Canadians, but the story is interesting enough to post.
For years I've wanted a No. 1 in 30-30, but as most of you know, they aren't easy to find. Even harder in Canada.
Last week, in a moment of weakness, I ordered a G2 Contender through an importer (no No. 1s available). $456 US. Contenders are not popular in Canada because of the importation problems that resulted after 9/11.
So far, the company that I ordered from has been very attentive and have kept me informed on the progress of the shipment. They do all the paperwork. You just supply your information. For Canadians, that's your PAL (Possession/Acquisition License No.) and mailing info.
They ship once a month to Canada, so it won't be leaving to come up until the middle of next month.
I will post the company's name should everything go smoothly.
I asked about a 30-30 barrel. They are restocking and told me that they should be available next month. With a little luck, both will be shipped together.
I have a box of various pointed 308 bullets that originally were destined for an H&R SS, but for whatever reason, was a piece of [bleep].
The older I get, the more difficult it is getting to make a simple purchase - a box of bullets or a rifle. The bottom line is, I won't be shooting it until late June or even July. Silly.
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Clearly you should have done more research before deciding where to be born.
The G2 .30/30 is a neat idea, one I've considered off and on over the years. The last test I read said the triggers are running a little heavy now, so you might want to look around for someone to tweak it if that proves to be the case. The two I had a while back, both handguns I bought used, were fine, but that was pre-S&W.
Keep us posted.
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I have an original 1st Gen Contender to which I fitted a 23" carbine barrel, and found a Bishop thumbhole stock for it. It's quite accurate, though stiff to open. At some point I need to give it to someone who knows how to fit locking lugs, and get it to where it opens more easily. I really should refinish the stocks too, so they match. The Bishop thumbholes are long out of production, but work very well, IMO. I like them more than any of TC's carbine stocks. One of these days I may take one of the current Miroku Low Walls, and have it rebarreled to .30-30. Think that would be just about perfect for that round, maybe even a bit nicer than a Ruger #1
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Clearly you should have done more research before deciding where to be born.
The G2 .30/30 is a neat idea, one I've considered off and on over the years. The last test I read said the triggers are running a little heavy now, so you might want to look around for someone to tweak it if that proves to be the case. The two I had a while back, both handguns I bought used, were fine, but that was pre-S&W.
Keep us posted. I have a couple of Nikon scopes sitting here. I'll pick one. Probably the 2-7. Hoping the transaction goes smoothly. Unless I get lucky, I'll have to be content with the Contender. I sure hope it shoots 2 in @ 100yd without fiddling too much.
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I'd bet it will easily beat 2" at 100
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Anything less than that is gravy. That's all I ever hope for, except for some of my specialty rifles.
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Had a 10" TC in college. Routinely shot 1.5" for 3 shots at 100 yds
I have a group I fired at 50 yds using factory 150 CL. The group is literally one SMALL hole. A cloverleaf IIRC < .2. C-t-C using a 2x EER
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I have an original 1st Gen Contender to which I fitted a 23" carbine barrel, and found a Bishop thumbhole stock for it. It's quite accurate, though stiff to open. At some point I need to give it to someone who knows how to fit locking lugs, and get it to where it opens more easily. I really should refinish the stocks too, so they match. The Bishop thumbholes are long out of production, but work very well, IMO. I like them more than any of TC's carbine stocks. One of these days I may take one of the current Miroku Low Walls, and have it rebarreled to .30-30. Think that would be just about perfect for that round, maybe even a bit nicer than a Ruger #1 Sounds to me like your needing an "Easy Open" mod done on that old piece. Bullberry is your friend. Have a variety of barrels for the Contender, all rifle length pipes. First was a 22" .30-30 and it shoots so well it's boring. Pretty much doesn't care what bullet I put in it, they run fine.
I am..........disturbed.
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Sounds to me like your needing an "Easy Open" mod done on that old piece. Bullberry is your friend.
Have a variety of barrels for the Contender, all rifle length pipes. First was a 22" .30-30 and it shoots so well it's boring. Pretty much doesn't care what bullet I put in it, they run fine.
Thanks, yeah, T/C used to offer the Easy Open Mod as well in their custom shop, but S&W torpedoed that deal I should see what other sort of interesting cartridge BB could make for a Contender
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Smilin' here....they built the .30 Sneezer.... I don't have any target pics handy for the .30-30 but it is a sub MOA shooter. My other barrel has a .22 short match chamber. Target below followed a serious barrel cleaning in numerical sequence using the red dot sight. CCI CB shorts zeroed for pigs. It runs 1/2" for 5 at 50 yards with the CB's and CCI HVHP shorts. That barrel has slain over 100 wild hogs. The Sneezer at 50 yards with a red dot sight; And these bullets; 30:1 183 grains. I'm considering the purchase of a .25-20 Win barrel just for chitts'n grins. I suspect I might wind up with a Hornet barrel at some point as well.
I am..........disturbed.
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It would be nice to get a 22Hornet barrel. It's a favourite of mine. Here in rural Onterrible, tis the bees knees for a sorts of critters around the place.
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Had a 12" Hornet barrel. Loud little bugger. My son, who tested all kinds of used guns by shooting into a snail, still talks about the noise that thing made. Only one worse was a braked .350 RM that blew the rubber gasket off the snail. Plugs and muffs required!
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Have you ever tried a 10 inch .221 Fireball? Huge fireball and lots of noise.
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I don't know about the rest, but I have a couple of 222 Rems. Never saw a need for a .221. Mind you, I might have better luck with that cartridge than I did with my Hornets.
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I have a Contender in the AA plated version in .30-30, with a 14' barrel and really nice wood. Never really warmed up to it in that caliber. After discussions with Mike Bellm, he has it in his shop now to re-chamber it to .30-30 AI, says he's sure I'll like it better.
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My favourite cartridges are rimmed and they need nice lines when I'm looking at them in silhouette. The 30-30 has those lines. I hope you enjoy your improved 30-30.
No matter which cartridge is used, we need to have confidence that it will work for us. For me, some of that confidence is visual. The cartridge must be appealing to my eye. The Contender itself is an attractive piece as well. If it wasn't so cost prohibitive, I would own more No.1s, and chamber them in any calibres that appealed to me. I am hopeful that the Contender will scratch that itch.
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A small update. I couldn't find a mount or rail in Canada for the Contender, so I asked Jerry Teo of Mystic Precision to order one in for me. The Canadians might know him. He serves competition shooters and that's where I have got a couple of my rifle barrels and other hardware. I have three new scopes on the shelf here, but only one 2-7. So that's what I'll be using. It's a Burris Fullfield 2-7x35 and Warne rings. Silly as it sounds, the only thing left to get is the barrel!
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Might want to call him back and have him order a couple more. Very few Contender jockeys are happy with just one barrel.😁
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I already have a list. I have to clear out some project and test rifles and free up a couple thou to complete this purchase and some other things. I need lead and gas checks for a few cals. I also have to finish with my 30-303.
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I managed to find an importer for MGM barrels up here. I have ordered the 30-30 barrel. It's a shocker when you pay in Canuckian dinars for goods out of the US. With shipping, import fees and taxes, the order comes to $775 CDN. Divide that by 1.4 (exchange) and you get $553 USD. So, a quick tally goes something like this: All figures in CDN Dinars (Alms! Alms! I'll break your Alms!) action $650 barrel $775 scope $225 base and rings $100 Total - $1750 (I coulda bought a No 1 ) But going forward, it will be cheaper. The import fees and the weak dinar make it 'spensive. The importer tells me about three months before I have it in my hands. August, I guess. So, everything is complete. I just have to wait now.
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