Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns Do you consider the 1911 obsolete for concealed carry

The ignorance of the history of firearm development displayed on this thread is telling. I'm reminded of the kid that told me about the new rock band he'd just heard on the radio: Aerosmith.

Striker-fired, double column magazines, trigger safeties, tilting barrels - state-of-the-art to some, but actually date back 100-years and more. What is actually state-of-the-art in firearms manufacturing is the ability to manufacture mediocre firearms cheaper than ever before. Sig is providing the P320 to the Army for $205 per unit.

For those that can't manipulate a safety, your skills suck.

You were 100% correct. But I wanted to expand. Then the wife interrupted me to help her with something. True story.

The other thread talking about the Browning Hi-Power. Classic design with higher capacity than the 1911(the first). Is that a compromise here?

It's a classy gun. KnightHawk Custom thinks so.

Some think the cam is better than the link. Also no grip safety. Very positive thumb safety. Accurate. Dam nice looking. 32 oz.

It's not an issue of being able to manipulate it. It's not even an issue of being able to train to a high degree of automatic action in doing so. It's a matter of the reality that when the SHTF, all that can, and often does, go out the window. You can't just say, well, that means that guy has bad skills. It's a human reaction to a sudden dump of adrenaline.

Roger that.
Bob

I love my 1911's , but the Hi-Power is one of the best looking pistol there is IMO.



...and it is more than good looks. The most balanced pistol out there. Naturally returns to aim point fast. The double tap king IMO.

This problem may be mitigated by simplifying the manual of arms but it can only be solved by the appropriate training we all revert to when the SHTF.

It also explains those cases when a hi-cap plastic SF pistol is shot dry within 5 yards and no lethal hits result. Don't blame the pistol, change the operator's skill set.

All true. I haven't been without one since the late 1980s.

Bought mind new in '70. But just recently renewed my interest. Mainly because of the caliber. But now, there are so many good choices of ammo out there for the 9mm. I am confident that 13+1 is enough for my protection. Don't get me wrong, my primary city gun is the Wiley LW Commander. In the winter I carry the Special Combat Government .38 Super some also.

I ordered a set of Hogue Checkered Kingwood grips for the Hi-Power. Have not received them yet. Should go well with that hi polish Belgium model. I hope.

…you're a man of superior wisdom, insight and judgement, Gibby. Wiley Clapp Commander and the DW Guardian are the BEST out of the box carry 1911's made at an affordable price.

If you "forget" to swipe off the safety on a 1911 it's because your draw and grip sucks, not because of adrenaline.

+1

Sorry Hawk, but most of that adrenaline dump crap is the result of too many YouTube videos and the tacticools. The same guys that can't press a slide release after a magazine change due to "loss of fine motor skills" can magically hit the magazine button in the first place. The same guys that are too feeble with excitement to use a thumb safety tell me to stage the trigger for those 50-yard head shots in the heat of battle. Hey look, M4's and riot guns have safeties - are all those users doomed?

I'm partial to the full-sized Gov't Clapp. A nice Colt .45 and a BHP...dated, but still useful.
Bob

Nice. No way those weapons are obsolete. Just an older religion.

My F-250 pickup has a manual transmission. It's not obsolete either, but it's no longer offered. Lots of folks just don't know how to use a manual tranny anymore.

I got rid of all my manual transmission cars because I figured under stress I would forget how to shift gears.

Drop the mike.

Didn't say anyone was doomed, but it's an extra step that's not required with a Glock. Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) would seem to apply.

If it's an "extra step", you're draw and grip is wrong.