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My brother in law has decided he wants a 270 weatherby. He is currently looking at a accumark or the ultra lightweight - can get them for roughly same price. What would you choose? He will be hunting the Idaho backcountry with steep mountains but is leaning towards the accumark cause he wants more consistent LR capabilities. I love the ballistics but don't know much about "real" weatherby rifles.
Also he will be shooting factory am miss he doesn't reload. Thoughts?
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Ultralight, do not think he wants to lug an accumark around in that situation. I would also look at the 7mm Weatherby.
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Yep the Accumark is not a walking around gun imo. I use mine for stand hunting over an open field.
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What is everybody's thoughts good or bad on the Ultra Lieghtweight rifles? Pretty easy to get shooting straight or do they typically require lots of gunsmithing work?
Basically, my BIL is looking for a rifle that he can mount a scope on, buy some premium factory ammo for, get sighted in and practice with, and be able to go hunting and shoot out to 4-500 yards as needed.
I want him to get a standard 270 win for this task - espcially since the accumark is only 7.25. pounds and he could be 8.5 scoped up and ready to roll, but he is pretty dead set on the Weatherby round.
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I have never seen a ultralight in 270 weatherby or 7mm weatherby not shoot. I have a donor that has been listed on GB and if it does not sell, it will be sent off to weatherby and turned into a ultralight
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What kind of money is he going to spend on this rifle? Personally,if I had the coin I would be looking at an offering from Cooper in either 300 win or 6.5X284. For a bit less money you could have a true light weight and accurate rifle from Barrett in their new Fieldcraft in 6.5X55 or 270 win. If I'm not mistaken the Cooper is guaranteed to shoot 1/2 MOA. I would also be willing to bet good money that the Barrett will do considerably better than MOA in a 6lb rifle #2 barrel contour and 24" in their long actions. Maybe I'm just not well informed on Weatherby rifles but my thought was that the Ultralight really isn't all that light in their magnum calibers and you would be doing real well to get one that shot under MOA. Here's a Cooper in your preferred caliber. I've no idea what it weighs but I would find out before buying it to lug up a mountain. https://www.gunsamerica.com/923304817/Cooper-M52-Jackson-Excaliber-270WbyMag-black-gray.htm
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I want him to get a standard 270 win for this task - espcially since the accumark is only 7.25. pounds and he could be 8.5 scoped up and ready to roll, but he is pretty dead set on the Weatherby round.
Well, you've given him sage advice. I'm guessing at $60-70 a box for the premium stuff, he's not likely to to burn a couple of boxes in a range session. If he's thinking he needs for more @ss, a 140 in the 7mag is 3200- 3300ish; and a 130 in the 270 Weatherby to 3300-3350 or so. Dropsies are nearly identical @ 500. Mucho cheaper to feed the 7mm mag too. But, if he's gotta have it, he's gotta have it.
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If I didn't reload, I agree with Skane and would go with a 7 Mag, too. I understand the .270 Wby bug, though- mine is one of my favorite rifles! I would go with the Accumark if he wanted a turn key rifle like you described, light weight rifles need some "tweeking" more often than heavier guns, but as with anything- there are exceptions.
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Also he will be shooting factory am miss he doesn't reload. Thoughts?
When I've found a factory load that happens to be accurate enough out to +300 yards it is usually after trying several different brands and bullet styles and loads. Unfortunately, with factory Weatherby ammo, the choices are somewhat limited. I get that his heart may be set, but he should be aware that he may eventually have to reload or buy a caliber with more ammo options. In regards to the rifle weight choices, how big of an ole boy is he? If he's built like an NFL linebacker, the difference in weight is probably nothing to him. It is to me.
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Any one with a 26" barrel.
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I have a Mark V in 7mm Wby if he wants the choice of higher bullet weights for Elk. I also have a ton of ammunition for it. I'd make him a deal.
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What is everybody's thoughts good or bad on the Ultra Lieghtweight rifles? Pretty easy to get shooting straight or do they typically require lots of gunsmithing work?
Basically, my BIL is looking for a rifle that he can mount a scope on, buy some premium factory ammo for, get sighted in and practice with, and be able to go hunting and shoot out to 4-500 yards as needed.
I want him to get a standard 270 win for this task - espcially since the accumark is only 7.25. pounds and he could be 8.5 scoped up and ready to roll, but he is pretty dead set on the Weatherby round. ............................I own an Accumark. For steep country and for most it is not the best rifle to be luggin around. If he is truly bent on the 270 Wby, then go with the Wby ultralite. I can understand your preference for the 270 Win. Tell your bro in law that for every 400 fps gain in MV given the same caliber and bullet weight, there is roughly a 100 yard down range #s advantage in terms of retained velocity and energy. Compare the velocity #s for a variety of 270 Win factory ammo (24" barrel) vs 270 Bee (26" barrel) Wby factory ammo. I don't think 400 fps separate them. So his downrange advantage using a 270 Wby would be around maybe 65-75 yards or so. To come really closer to the 270 Bee the 270 Win would need a 26" barrel and some good reloads using RL26 as one of the powder choices. An alternative (money saving buying the rifle and money saving buying factory ammo) choice to the 270 Wby Ultralite would be the 26" barreled Browning X bolt LR (long range) stalker in the 270 Win. My guess, is that less than 150 fps would separate those two using factory ammo. A less than 50 yard downrange advantage for the 270 Wby. Kinda like comparing the 300 Win to the 300 Bee. The 7mm Rem to the 7mm Wby. Or maybe a 300 WSM to the 300 Win...... If saving money is a priority with your BIL, a 24" or 26" barreled 270 Win (preferably a 26") given the same bullets, distances and game, will do anything in the field a 270 Wby can do.
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Another 7RM vote. I've experience with the 257, 270, and 7mm Wby carts and there's nothing they do that the 7RM doesn't accomplish equally as well. Even though I'm really fond of the 257 Wby, my 7RMs with 120s hang right with it. For someone that does not handload, this decision is a no brainer.
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Have one built out of a Rem 700.
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Yep, he could go Tikka Ultralight in 7mag and have a true mountain weight rifle that would likely shoot better than the Weatherby. It would cost half as much for the gun and cost half as much to shoot.
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