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wait a minute, does this mean "grab 'em by the Pu$$y " is out, or in? Is that Judeo, or Christian? Or just MAGA?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Sycamore

I knew you opposed p---y.




Dave

Evangelism is an activity. Evangelicalism is a movement.

Strongly disagree with you on that one Hawk.

The New is in the Old concealed and the Old is in the New reveled.

The two are intricate.

The God of the O.T. is the same God of the N.T.

Christ did not come to destroy the Law or the Prophets but to fulfill it.

He was a Jew (in the ethnic sense as used at the time), but he was not Judaic. Judaism is what he went out of his way to condemn, which is why he was crucified by the Jews who, by and large, were Judaic in religion. Judaism is a false religion that grew up parallel to the religion divinely delivered to the Hebrews via the Patriarchs and Prophets. Christ referred to Judaism as the Traditions of the Elders and the Commandments of Men, and said that it led people from God, rather than towards Him. Christ called the Jews on this throughout the Gospels. That's why the leaders of Judaism sought his death, because he was threatening the religion they and their ancestors had carefully crafted for their own empowerment throughout the centuries to enslave the minds of men and to prevent the salvation of all who adhere to it. Judaism was (and remains), Christ said, the religion of its father the Devil, not of God.

Have you ever read the New Testament? This is a major theme throughout.

^^ Good post! ^^

OK, so you say you disagree, but then proceed to restate my assertion. I can only assume that you're not actually reading my posts. The Christian Bible contains both the Old and the New Testaments. This, as opposed to the Talmud, which is the codification of Judaism, i.e., the very false religion Christ condemned by his own words throughout the New Testament.

The farther our countries move away from those values, the farther we slide down the slippery slope. Witness the marked social decay of both our countries for proof of that.

Either way ...... The cross and our current condition is all in God's plan and control.

The Talmud is not true Judeo values.

Jesus was a Jew who had true Judeo values.

No, he condemned them. Only in contrast to Judaic values, did he refer to Moses, the Patriarchs, and the Prophets, and was in constant conflict with the adherents and teachers of Judaism throughout the New Testament, as were the Apostles throughout Acts and the Epistles.

You've been brainwashed by the Christian Zionist movement to such a degree that you're now incapable of a simple reading of the New Testament without the superimposition of the principles of Christian Zionism on the words you read. I'm not saying you're a bad person. You're likely very well meaning. I'm merely saying that you're deceived by a demonic changeling imitation of Christianity.

thanks to the real Hawkeye and several other initiators/instigators i hope this thread goes on to 50 or more pages. later, hopefully other seers such as ringman and the curdog might consider weighing in to help balance the boat in rather rough seas.

indeed, just where or at what point does judaism end and christianity begin? is it a clear cut, but zig=zag line, or is it rather fuzzy & blurry?

without the jews, would we ever have jesus? said the other way, did jesus base most if not all of his Teachings on the Judastic Principles?

and to throw a bit of gasoline on the fire, we can thank one of jesus's desciples for id'ing him to the roman authorities in order for the process to continue?

To the best of my knowledge, the Jews have no "New Testament"...and Jesus was just a man, not the messiah....they still await the coming.

Jesus well understood that the Patriarchs and the Prophets were true, and held them up as examples to all while he condemned Judaism, which was (and remains) a false religion that had grown up parallel to the faith delivered by the Patriarchs and Prophets. Judaism (i.e., the principles later to be codified in the Talmud) was identified by Jesus as the religion of its father the Devil.

He condemned, as well as Paul, those who practiced the Talmud, the Judaizers.

Basically, the Talmud is a Babylonian system (Jews who were sent into Babylonian captivity) that builds a fence around the Law to keep man from breaking the Law, or man's law and efforts which was legalistic.




You are way out there dude.......

Arianism.

God bless you, my friend.

You men must be a lot smarter than I am, I'm a simple man. Some of these threads make me think of the old, "How many angles can dance on the head of a pin".

I just know Jesus Christ is Lord, He died for my sins.

My point was, Jews don't consider him to be the messiah...he was an ordinary man, not even a prophet(according to them).



I've never heard this before, not doubting you...but never heard that statement.

Read the Gospels. When Christ condemned what Judaism taught, he referred to it as the traditions of the elders. This is what Jews today tell us constitutes the Talmud, i.e., the codification in writing of the oral tradition delivered to the elders among the Jews while Moses was on the Mountain receiving the Ten Commandments. They claim the principles laid out in the Talmud are those very teachings, and it was those false teachings that Christ condemned in the New Testament, i.e., what the Jews were teaching, and had been teaching for centuries, i.e., false doctrine, demonically inspired.

http://www.itwillpass.com/law-Moses-Ten-Commandments-US-Supreme-Court.shtml


I can't object to a figure of Moses holding the law as shown above.