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Glock guy's have short memories. Except for removing the thumb safety, the 19X was Glock's submission for the US Army's MHS.
Yes, that is correct. But I'm eclectic......................I think the new 2.0 series M&P are every bit as good as any Glock ever was & the 3.6" version has been my EDC since I got it this past summer. Triggers on the 2.0's, as far a pull & feel go, are generally better than most stock Glocks, & with this one, we have 2 other earlier versions in 9c & 4" standard that are my wifes, & wehave never once had a single stoppage with any of them. MM
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The sig 320 despite faults of its own is going to finally give glock a run for their money.
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P320 has noticeably more flip due to much higher bore axis than Glock. I was excited about it when first introduced, but shot it side by side with my Glock 17 and the sensation of flip with the Sig was a deal breaker. Put it right up for sale. Prettier gun, well made, but I’ll keep my Glocks.
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glock has "perfected" the art of selling pistols.
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glock has "perfected" the art of selling pistols. Their popularity is well earned.
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glock has "perfected" the art of selling pistols. In terms of pistols sales Glock is number 4 in the US behind S&W, Ruger, and Sig. It's not even close.
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glock has "perfected" the art of selling pistols. Their popularity is well earned. glock has "perfected" the art of selling pistols. In terms of pistols sales Glock is number 4 in the US behind S&W, Ruger, and Sig. It's not even close. Looks like they earne #4. LOL
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What does the 'X' stand for? I see it doesn't have finger grooves, that's good, I sanded down the finger grooves on my new gen 4 model 21 and put a strip of skateboard tape on the grip and left side of the action right under the slide release to give my right thumb something to grip.
Trump Won!
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glock has "perfected" the art of selling pistols. Their popularity is well earned. Yes not improving over the years by bull headedly sticking with their poor plastic sights and abysmal trigger has earned them #4 spot. The LC9 has a pretty decent trigger. TRH your brainwashing is complete.
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X stands for "crossover". Marketing nomenclature only....17 frame with a 19 slide.
BTW - I like mine. Gen 4 mags fit fine.
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Tom
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glock has "perfected" the art of selling pistols. Their popularity is well earned. Yes not improving over the years by bull headedly sticking with their poor plastic sights and abysmal trigger has earned them #4 spot. The LC9 has a pretty decent trigger. TRH your brainwashing is complete. It was a long journey to Glock for me. I've been shooting and carrying various handguns since 1980. I'm actually late to accepting Glocks, just a few years ago. I tried them a few times from the 1990s till then, but didn't take to them previously. It was the gun, not the advertising, that eventually sold me.
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What does the 'X' stand for? The X stands for crossover, because they combine features of the 19 and the 17.
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glock has "perfected" the art of selling pistols. Their popularity is well earned. Yes not improving over the years by bull headedly sticking with their poor plastic sights and abysmal trigger has earned them #4 spot. The LC9 has a pretty decent trigger. TRH your brainwashing is complete. To be fair, the 19x comes with steel night sites. I also dont find the glock trigger to be off putting. Its a plastic tool. None of them feel like a well made 1911 trigger and I dont expect them too. That being said, the glock trigger has never stopped me from shooting them very well. You do have options to change them out to a more desired pull.
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Glock guy's have short memories. Except for removing the thumb safety, the 19X was Glock's submission for the US Army's MHS.
Yes, that is correct. But I'm eclectic......................I think the new 2.0 series M&P are every bit as good as any Glock ever was & the 3.6" version has been my EDC since I got it this past summer. Triggers on the 2.0's, as far a pull & feel go, are generally better than most stock Glocks, & with this one, we have 2 other earlier versions in 9c & 4" standard that are my wifes, & wehave never once had a single stoppage with any of them. MM I never have had a failure yet with any glock I've owned or any M&P. Guess I've been lucky or not. They both just work and work well. I installed an apex trigger in the last 2.0 I owned and it was one of the best pulls I've ever experienced on a poly. They are very nice guns and I enjoyed the hell out of them.
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Sig P320 has a very good trigger right out of the box
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Sig P320 has a very good trigger right out of the box
I've owned a couple. It wasnt bad, but wasnt for me. The more I spent time with it, the more I disliked the way it felt in my hands. Thought the modularity was a cool idea though, if thats actually a word lol
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P320 has noticeably more flip due to much higher bore axis than Glock. I was excited about it when first introduced, but shot it side by side with my Glock 17 and the sensation of flip with the Sig was a deal breaker. LOL, I knew that was coming. Geez, give it a rest. I suggested some wrist exercises for you in the past. Check 'em out.
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Sig P320 has a very good trigger right out of the box
I've owned a couple. It wasnt bad, but wasnt for me. The more I spent time with it, the more I disliked the way it felt in my hands. Thought the modularity was a cool idea though, if thats actually a word lol The modularity doesn’t matter to me but I really like the 320. I’ve found them to be accurate and the grip fits my hand well.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Sig P320 has a very good trigger right out of the box
I've owned a couple. It wasnt bad, but wasnt for me. The more I spent time with it, the more I disliked the way it felt in my hands. Thought the modularity was a cool idea though, if thats actually a word lol The modularity doesn’t matter to me but I really like the 320. I’ve found them to be accurate and the grip fits my hand well. It doesn't matter to me either, but with receivers going for $19 and change I don't know for how long.
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but I really like the 320. I’ve found them to be accurate and the grip fits my hand well. Yes, the 320 is a great gun & I like it a lot too.............I think the Carry-X will follow me home one of these days. MM
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