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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
I somewhat find it interesting to note that a friend of mine is married to an RN. She has been on hydroxychloroquine for years as prescribed by her doctor for Lupus, it has and is effective for her.MB


and that is the issue, if people start stockpiling this stuff "in case they get Covid" your friends wife won't get what she needs.


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First, Nevada did NOT ban the use of those drugs. That was a misunderstanding from a poorly worded release from their governor, who's intent was to stop hoarding of the drug. They corrected the wording the next day.

Here is the link to the actual letter from Michigan:

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/...ng_and_Dispensing_3-24-2020_684869_7.pdf

It looks to me like there are allegations that healthcare professionals were burning through stocks of the drugs for their own friends and family. The intent here seems to be to limit paniced use of the drug, to include "off-lable" use, so that there will be enough of the drug for the people currently need it for it's intended use.

But if a Lib Gov purposfly extending the pandemic to sink Trump fits your narrative better, have at it.


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Originally Posted by Sycamore
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I see Nevada did the same thing, what rational justifies not considering the use of this drug?


when all else fails I guess we could read the letter, linked in the OP

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...Prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine without further proof of efficacy for treating
COVID-19 or with the intent to stockpile the drug may create a shortage for patients with lupus,
rheumatoid arthritis, or other ailments for which chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are proven
treatments. Reports of this conduct will be evaluated and may be further investigated for
administrative action. Prescribing any kind of prescription must also be associated with medical
documentation showing proof of the medical necessity and medical condition for which the
patient is being treated. Again, these are drugs that have not been proven scientifically or
medically to treat COVID-19.
...


It's a question of supply and demand.


For the record, I read the letter.


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she really is disgusting. She picked a fight with trump a week ago for no reason, continues to complain about the federal response, extremely counter-productive. now she is begging for help, and still behaving like a defiant child. if you just look at her face and demeanor in all of her public statements, cringeworthy. in way over her head

if there is a problem with abuse of the Rx process, availability, etc, regulate that, instead of just a blanket order. frankly, i wonder about the legality, enforceability of he exec orders


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this power grab will end, whether .gov or .mi or other states like it or not.


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You can’t help but compare America today, with Nazi Germany in the waning days of WWII. The local Gauleiters have seized control.


America today is much more akin to the Weimar Republic.

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As a Conservative, I vote for the best person for the job,


Then you need to vote for Caucasian male conservatives.

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Originally Posted by duck911
First, Nevada did NOT ban the use of those drugs. That was a misunderstanding from a poorly worded release from their governor, who's intent was to stop hoarding of the drug. They corrected the wording the next day.

Here is the link to the actual letter from Michigan:

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/...ng_and_Dispensing_3-24-2020_684869_7.pdf

It looks to me like there are allegations that healthcare professionals were burning through stocks of the drugs for their own friends and family. The intent here seems to be to limit paniced use of the drug, to include "off-lable" use, so that there will be enough of the drug for the people currently need it for it's intended use.

But if a Lib Gov purposfly extending the pandemic to sink Trump fits your narrative better, have at it.



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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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You can’t help but compare America today, with Nazi Germany in the waning days of WWII. The local Gauleiters have seized control.


America today is much more akin to the Weimar Republic.


Word.


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I’ll ask the question. Do we not have way too many women in leadership positions across the board? Note To self: women are not leaders just because they Want to be. Eve’s syndrome.


Yes, we do.

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Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

I’ll ask the question. Do we not have way too many women in leadership positions across the board? Note To self: women are not leaders just because they Want to be. Eve’s syndrome.

I've been of this opinion for years. Leaders whose diirectives and decisions are based on or swayed by emotions have no place in government.


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Originally Posted by kingston
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Originally Posted by jimmyp
I see Nevada did the same thing, what rational justifies not considering the use of this drug?


when all else fails I guess we could read the letter, linked in the OP

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...Prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine without further proof of efficacy for treating
COVID-19 or with the intent to stockpile the drug may create a shortage for patients with lupus,
rheumatoid arthritis, or other ailments for which chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are proven
treatments. Reports of this conduct will be evaluated and may be further investigated for
administrative action. Prescribing any kind of prescription must also be associated with medical
documentation showing proof of the medical necessity and medical condition for which the
patient is being treated. Again, these are drugs that have not been proven scientifically or
medically to treat COVID-19.
...


It's a question of supply and demand.


For the record, I read the letter.


1 is better than none.......


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Look at who her AG is...

That's where wretched witless gets her legal advice from.

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i've mentioned this before, but one time i saw Ann Coulter being interviewed somewhere in Europe, by a journalist. She was asked whether the status of the right for women to vote was good...Coulter refused to answer...LOL


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It looks like U of M snapped their finger. That is the que for Witless to pee on the carpet.

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Originally Posted by jimmyp
I see Nevada did the same thing, what rational justifies not considering the use of this drug?

Gotta keep the dem panic alive as long as possible.

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Originally Posted by bruinruin
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

I’ll ask the question. Do we not have way too many women in leadership positions across the board? Note To self: women are not leaders just because they Want to be. Eve’s syndrome.

I've been of this opinion for years. Leaders whose diirectives and decisions are based on or swayed by emotions have no place in government.



Not defending any political position here, just posting some information that may be helpful

Eves syndrome is no different than Andropause in men. Both are hormone unbalance conditions easily cured by bio-identical hormone replacement. A female with the correctly balanced hormones would make more "rational" decisions than a male in andropause. (who would actually be in Eves syndrome from excessive conversion of testosterone to estradiol).

The situation is similar to pharmacies not wanting to carry THC, although legal in any particular state. The federal government can still take away their Schedule drug permits.

Each state is different, of the 15 or so states I was licensed in -- the governor did not have the authority.

The the bigger issue here and not being discussed:

Quinine derivates have a slight amount of ACE2 receptor inhibition. (chloroquine, hydroxy, and quinine.) Although thrombocytopenia is common side effect of all these drugs. Severe arthritis and lupus are not dependent of the ACE2 pathway.

Coronavirus attaches to these receptors.

Kids 10 years old and under do not have ACE2 inhibitors in the lungs thats why they don't get Crono.

Why aren't ACE2 inhibitors being used? What are the survival stats of older folks on ACE2 inhibitors?

The governors position is based on the American Heart Association to stop ACE2 inhibitors if Corno present. Completely counter intuitive and no evidence


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I can understand wanting to regulate it, but this isn't opioids we are talking about here.

I would expect worst case scenario is that the patient has no positive effects from taking the drug when correctly prescribed by the doctor while potentially having some side effects that exist simultaneously with the virus.

With more than 150m doses of this drug ready to be in the hands of doctors in a short period of time, this can't be about running out.


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