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Fauci warns 100–200K Americans could die from virus, but says projections are “moving target” - Axios
“Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday that models suggest the coronavirus will infect millions of Americans and could kill 100,000–200,000, though he stressed that the projections are "such a moving target." Why it matters: Fauci has been the coronavirus task force's most outspoken advocate for emergency social distancing measures to stop the spread of the coronavirus, sometimes contradicting President Trump's more optimistic outlook.”
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Numbers from “Experts” are all over the map on this stuff
From 3.5 Million Americans will die to 100 to 200K now.
Who do we believe???
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What's the full context of his comments?
He's saying 100K+ under what circumstances?
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Sure.
They’ll count them like hurricane deaths. Every 80+ year old invalid that gives up the ghost will be tested, and if positive, will be a Corona death. Even with 9 and 1/2 toes already in the grave.
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I don’t think any of the MFer’s know!
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I don’t think any of the MFer’s know! PREZACTLY! And that was my point Hanco! I’m so sick of hearing how many will die!!!
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I don't know what to believe.
My guess is that a lot of the elderly, smokers, alcoholics, drug addicts, obese, AIDS ridden, diabetics, and others in poor health will be taken down by this virus. And there is no shortage of those type of people in this country.
If Doc Fauci says it, I believe that HE believes it. And he is pretty much one of the 'duty experts'.
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I don’t think any of the MFer’s know! PREZACTLY! And that was my point Hanco! I’m so sick of hearing how many will die!!! I'm with this sentiment.
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I do believe that there are too many of us on the big merry-go-round.
Mother nature re-balances things via disease and starvation. Surprise , surprise....we are not immune to the laws of nature.
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In the USA, Wednesday there were 1000 dead. Saturday night it hit 2000. Might be something to be concerned about.
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The context for this matters:
60,000 Americans die from the flu every year. About 40,000 die in car accidents, 20,000 die in homocides and 60,000 die from suicide. Meanwhile, 600,000 die from cancer and 650,000 die from heart disease every year.
I think if those numbers were mentioned alongside any projected COVID-19 death rates, it would cause us all to settle down a bit.
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All a hammer can see is a nail. Fauci predictions are worst case. Hasbeen
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From what I am seeing in our ICU right now and over the last week, and considering the flu killed 34k people in 2018-2019, and comparing prevalence of severe illness and respiratory failure between the two viruses... yeah. 100-200k dead is very possible.
It is a moving target because there are a lot of factors involved. This keeps spreading and acting like it’s acting, a lot of people are going to keep dying. This is way worse than any flu I’ve seen in 8 years here
The rest of the state is still doing ok, it may subside, this may turn out to be a local uptick. But it has our attention for sure
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Well, I think worse case would be around 1% of the population...which would work out to about 3.3 million.
So 100K-200K seems somewhat conservative in my mind. Less that 1/10th of 1% of the population.
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From what I am seeing in our ICU right now and over the last week, and considering the flu killed 34k people in 2018-2019, and comparing prevalence of severe illness and respiratory failure between the two viruses... yeah. 100-200k dead is very possible.
It is a moving target because there are a lot of factors involved. This keeps spreading and acting like it’s acting, a lot of people are going to keep dying. This is way worse than any flu I’ve seen in 8 years here
The rest of the state is still doing ok, it may subside, this may turn out to be a local uptick. But it has our attention for sure Thanks for the first hand account.
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If his comment is based on the Imperial Modeling done in England I’d say he is way wrong. That study is flawed based on what I’ve read. Human response to the virus doesn’t seem to back up that number of people dying here. Subtracting Chinese data and considering infection rates and the reason for those rated in the hardest hit countries our response is demonstrating a different outcome with better survival rates.
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The context for this matters:
60,000 Americans die from the flu every year. About 40,000 die in car accidents, 20,000 die in homocides and 60,000 die from suicide. Meanwhile, 600,000 die from cancer and 650,000 die from heart disease every year.
I think if those numbers were mentioned alongside any projected COVID-19 death rates, it would cause us all to settle down a bit. Yep. Instead of making it sound like we’re All Gonna DIE !
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I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Sure.
They’ll count them like hurricane deaths. Every 80+ year old invalid that gives up the ghost will be tested, and if positive, will be a Corona death. Even with 9 and 1/2 toes already in the grave.
^ this
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The context for this matters:
60,000 Americans die from the flu every year. About 40,000 die in car accidents, 20,000 die in homocides and 60,000 die from suicide. Meanwhile, 600,000 die from cancer and 650,000 die from heart disease every year.
I think if those numbers were mentioned alongside any projected COVID-19 death rates, it would cause us all to settle down a bit. But the issue is that deaths from the virus could be in addition to those figures. It isn't a trade off.
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