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#1574560 - 07/31/07 06:35 AM How many states have huntable wild hogs?
JJHACK Offline
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I hunted hogs in California last fall. They provided an information booklet at the license office In that booklet it said that 40 plus states have wild hogs and in the next 20 years all of 50 will. They seem to think it is a very fast growing population of animals that will become a problem if not controlled.

I have seen token animals in a few states like Washington, Oregon, and Idaho. Nothing to call huntable, or a problem. I do know they can survive almost any environment, as long as there is water. Water seems to be the biggest limitation to the wild hog survival, they can eat and grow on just about anything. So those PNW states I've mentioned Should be loaded with hogs if there is really a problem with them. There is plenty of water, and an endless supply of food for them.

In California I've seen lots of hogs on private ranches, but hunting on Public land has such low success that it's not really a practical way to spend your time. California has some of the best habitat on earth for wild hogs to thrive. So does Texas, but again mostly private land.

How strong is the wild hog population in America? Is this Brochure from California accurate in that wild hogs will be huntable in all 50 states in the next 20 or so years?
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#1574604 - 07/31/07 07:04 AM Re: How many states have huntable wild hogs? [Re: JJHACK]
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We've got them here in TN. They've been in the eastern part of the state forever, but haven't seemed to spread as far as I know. I'm not sure what the limiting factor on their expansion is, as I would have expected them to spread.

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#1574614 - 07/31/07 07:11 AM Re: How many states have huntable wild hogs? [Re: jds44]
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 Originally Posted By: jds44
I'm not sure what the limiting factor on their expansion is, as I would have expected them to spread.


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#1574705 - 07/31/07 07:56 AM Re: How many states have huntable wild hogs? [Re: pullit]
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 Originally Posted By: pullit
 Originally Posted By: jds44
I'm not sure what the limiting factor on their expansion is, as I would have expected them to spread.


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#1574724 - 07/31/07 08:07 AM Re: How many states have huntable wild hogs? [Re: Gaviidae_Esq]
GuyM Offline
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Rednecks with spotlights indeed! America's deadliest predator!

How well do hogs do in the cold of the northern states? I imagine some can survive, but will they flourish? Am thinking that long cold winters and deep snow could be problems for them.

Another limiting factor could be predators. Washington has a large population of black bear. Wolf numbers are growing throughout the west. Cougar are common. Heck, even our coyotes are pretty darned impressive, I've got one hide that measures 5' from nose to tip of the tail. Am certain our 'yotes take a toll on the deer population. A wild boar can be a tough critter, but there are a fair number of big predators up in the northern states that might take a liking to pork!

I haven't hunted hogs in a long time. It sure was fun though!

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#1574738 - 07/31/07 08:14 AM Re: How many states have huntable wild hogs? [Re: Gaviidae_Esq]
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They have been in southern New Mexico since the homesteading days. There are still folks who trap feral hogs and ear-mark them and then turn them loose to forage for themselves until fall mast crops fatten them up. However, in my experience, they are not common anywhere on public land. Most of the live water and riparian habitat in New Mexico is private--except for the high mountain ranges, most public land is arid and poorly watered, compared to the private land.

I managed a large ranch in southern New Mexico that had abundant feral hogs, especially during the years when our El Nino winters boosted our annual rainfall totals. I used to get requests for access from as far away as southern Colorado and the urban areas of Phoenix and especially Tucson.

Initially, I looked on it as a good way to thin their numbers a bit, but it turned out that most of the "hunters" wanted to drive their jeeps and ATVs around the ranch for a few days, and maybe shoot a hog on their way out. I would direct folks to areas where the hogs were causing problems with their rooting, but the only hogs that would get taken were pretty much shot from a vehicle or an ATV in chance encounters.

I ended up limiting the hog hunting to a few ranch families in the area that would take a few hogs to supplement beef and venison in their larders. Even though I have been gone from the ranch for over two years, I still get calls and e-mails from folks who want to hunt hogs...
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#1574748 - 07/31/07 08:18 AM Re: How many states have huntable wild hogs? [Re: JJHACK]
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I do a lot of boar/hog hunting. Note your post referencing "WILD" hogs. Many states have hogs penned/preserved which is quite different from truly free roaming hogs. Virtually the entire south from South Carolina to Florida to Texas & of course California has hogs. Then the NW that was mentioned. Most land owners wish they didn't have them. I have shot about 125 mostly in Florida but some is Texas,SC, & Georgia. Lots of sport.
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#1574783 - 07/31/07 08:31 AM Re: How many states have huntable wild hogs? [Re: pullit]
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 Originally Posted By: pullit
 Originally Posted By: jds44
I'm not sure what the limiting factor on their expansion is, as I would have expected them to spread.


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#1574789 - 07/31/07 08:35 AM Re: How many states have huntable wild hogs? [Re: tbear]
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Missouri has a scattered population. Our Conservation Department is attempting to get a handle on numbers, expansion, and control the things. The MDC estimates we may have somewhere between 5,000 - 10,000 scattered across the southern Ozarks. The MDC has trapped them, and, is now going to gun them from a helicoptor this winter. Hogs are scattered around in many of the areas I hunt and I have seen a few of them, plus lots of sign. I have some friends who have killed a few. One of my friends tracked one in the snow and jumped it from a clearcut, killing a 275 pound razorback. Hard looking critter for sure... Big hogs occasionally make some of the rural papers. A couple of years ago a squirrel hunter had a pair of big boars come by and he misplaced a head shot on one of them. The wounded boar treed the guy and kept him up in the tree until his hunting buddy came looking for him around lunch time. The bud killed the hog which was still hanging around and after getting some help they weighed the hog in a local butcher shop. 400 pounder with 4" or 5" tusk IIRC from the newspaper account. I jumped a huge old boar about like that out of a clearcut while scouting for bobcat sign one winter day. Walked right up on it as it slept at the base of a huge white oak tree. Startled the crap out of me as it rolled to its feet about ten yards away and busted through the brush down the ridge.
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#1575013 - 07/31/07 09:55 AM Re: How many states have huntable wild hogs? [Re: MOGC]
Lonny Offline
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JJ, where in Idaho have you seen wild free ranging hogs? I'm just curious, because I've lived in North Central Idaho all my life and have never heard of any wild free roaming hogs. This part of the state with relatively mild winters, agriculture, and brushy canyons with water might be the best place for them to have a chance.

Back to the origianl question. Unless on private land where access and hunting is limited I really can't imagine hogs getting established here where most people carry a rifle when out and about. A few years ago, a couple dozen escaped from a guy who was raising some of the feral looking hogs(not the domestic variety). The F&G informed the public to shoot on sight if encountering the hogs. It didn't take long and the hog escape scare was over.

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