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Looking for a scope to put on a 308 win. Max range 1000 yards. Looking at a Bushnell LRHS2. SWFA seems to be constantly backordered? Any other recommendations?

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What is your budget?

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Currently my "target" 308 (20" SPS Tact 1:12 varmint contour) has an 8.5-25x50 30MM Leupold. The favorite scope I had on that rifle was a 4.5-14x50 Zeiss Conquest w/target turrets. I no longer have the Zeiss because the turrets and power ring are backwards from Leupold/Nightforce.


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NRA Highpower limits zoom to 4X at 600 years, and PRS has a military category that limits zoom to 6x at 1,000 yards, and plenty of people are hitting the targets.

More zoom does not equal more precision. Precision is a factor of the rifle and the ammo.

More zoom does let you see hits and misses better.

If you're not runnin and gunnin in competition, the SWFA 6X MQ will get you there.

Snipers in Vietnam were using 4x and 10X optics and the 10X was considered to top magnification by some. More than 10X, and mirage becomes a factor, as well.


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Originally Posted by Esox357
Looking for a scope to put on a 308 win. Max range 1000 yards. Looking at a Bushnell LRHS2. SWFA seems to be constantly backordered? Any other recommendations?

Sounds like you're on the right track, IMO.

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Originally Posted by David_Walter
NRA Highpower limits zoom to 4X at 600 years, and PRS has a military category that limits zoom to 6x at 1,000 yards, and plenty of people are hitting the targets.

More zoom does not equal more precision. Precision is a factor of the rifle and the ammo.

More zoom does let you see hits and misses better.

If you're not runnin and gunnin in competition, the SWFA 6X MQ will get you there.

Snipers in Vietnam were using 4x and 10X optics and the 10X was considered to top magnification by some. More than 10X, and mirage becomes a factor, as well.

For the most part, I agree.

Precision is also a function of reticle and target subtension, in addition to rifle and ammo.

More magnification can help you see hits/misses up to a point, but FOV (especially in a dynamic situation) and mirage play a role, as well, and that limits the useful level of magnification for spotting your shots and making follow-ups.

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There is an ugly SWFA on the sample list. Give it a try. Never been unhappy with mine...

https://www.samplelist.com/swfa-ss-hd-5-20x50-tactical-30mm-rifle-scope-demo-c-3.html

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Originally Posted by Hondo64d
What is your budget?

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1500.00. Like to stay around 1000.00

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Originally Posted by Rifles And More
There is an ugly SWFA on the sample list. Give it a try. Never been unhappy with mine...

https://www.samplelist.com/swfa-ss-hd-5-20x50-tactical-30mm-rifle-scope-demo-c-3.html

That is an ugly swfa, but glad 1 is available!

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I still have my on a Tract

https://tractoptics.com/all-products/toric-uhd-30mm-4-20x50-ffp-mrad-mrad-long-range-rifle-scope

If you keep an eye on the classifieds, a LRTS or LRHS pop up from time to time.


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I put a Vortex 3-15 ×50 LHT on mine. Very good scope, illuminated and 20 oz. Unless you need FFP, this is prefect choice. I just put one on my 340 Wby too.

I don't think a 308 is a good 1000 yard gun. Good 900 yard gun though


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Ideally 800 yards but will stretch it to 1000 yards. I have been to a competition that goes to 1800 yards but didn't even attempt it. I used a different 308 for that shoot. Running the 155 scenar and varget.

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Originally Posted by Esox357
Ideally 800 yards but will stretch it to 1000 yards. I have been to a competition that goes to 1800 yards but didn't even attempt it. I used a different 308 for that shoot. Running the 155 scenar and varget.



Sadly, the 308 is outclassed for those types of shoots these days.


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Unfortunately. If I knew what I was doing at 1500 and 1800 yards I would have tried. Still learning at 1000yards.

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What is your budget?

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1500.00. Like to stay around 1000.00


Used LRTSi, LRHSi, or new LRHS 2. My preference is the LRTSi.

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I have a Burris Tactical 8-40x 50mms with illuminated reticle. It can be had for about $1100 or less. It's a decent piece of you're looking for an F-class type of scope. Has 1/8 MOA dials, side paralax. Burris stands behind their stuff, lifetime warranty.

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I'm waiting on my LRHS2 coming that I pre ordered from Georgia Arms.

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3-15x50 NXS used, someone had one for sale here for around $1500.

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If I can't see it I can't hit it. I have a 2.5x-25x-42 March that I will put on my 309.

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Nice. Still waiting for GAP optics to send me a LRHS2!

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Originally Posted by Esox357
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What is your budget?

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1500.00. Like to stay around 1000.00


>used Nightforce scope


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Originally Posted by pete53
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What is your budget?

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1500.00. Like to stay around 1000.00


>used Nightforce scope

This


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Only downside is NF has less eye relief from my understanding.

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I think at that price point I’d look at tract as well


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Originally Posted by Esox357
Only downside is NF has less eye relief from my understanding.


I've never had an issue with ER on a Nightforce scope. I use several, including the SHV 5-20x56, NXS 5.5-22x56 and NXS 3.5-15x56. No issues with any of them.


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Originally Posted by Dre
I think at that price point I’d look at tract as well


I have both Nightforce NXS as well as the SHV. I also have a Tract Toric. From a glass perspective, Tract has the Nightforce beat. The only issue I had with eye relief was with the Nightforce SHV 4-14x50F1. It has a straight 3.1" eye relief across the board. To contrast, the Tract Toric has 3.9" of eye relief across the board.

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I think at that price point I’d look at tract as well


I have both Nightforce NXS as well as the SHV. I also have a Tract Toric. From a glass perspective, Tract has the Nightforce beat. The only issue I had with eye relief was with the Nightforce SHV 4-14x50F1. It has a straight 3.1" eye relief across the board. To contrast, the Tract Toric has 3.9" of eye relief across the board.


I use NXS in the 2.5-10 (42 and 32), SHV's in the 3-10, and the Tract Toric 2-10. I do think the glass in the Toric is a little better and the eye relief is certainly better. None of that is a cut on the Nightforce scopes.....the Toric just has some really nice user characteristics for a hunting scope.

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Recently bought 2 Zeiss Conquest HD 4 2X10X42 those are the 2 brightest scopes I have ever owned. Now to see if they hold up. One is on a 270 Win Vanguard Stainless S2 and the other is on

a 7mm Mag Vanguard Stainless S2. Very happy with them so far. But there are many other fine scopes out there, I have used Nikon, Leupold and Burris in the past. None have ever had to be returned to

Manufacture. I have a scope I bought in 1980 I think it is a Leupold VX III in 2.5X8X36 That scope has been on almost ever rifle I own, can not say enough good things about it. About as perfect hunting scope as you can get.

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