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I know some don’t consider them archery equipment but the state of Florida does so I thought I would try one out. I have been intrigued by the reverse draw crossbows since they came out and finally took the plunge and bought a TenPoint Siege RS410. I got their back pack for it and the TenPoint Center Punch broadheads to try. I still plan to use my Hoyt also, this just adds another tool in the chest


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Oh yeah, hunting with a crossbow is great fun...Enjoy👍......Hb

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Oh yeah, hunting with a crossbow is great fun...Enjoy👍......Hb


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I won't use an X bow, but don't care if others do.

If its legal and you're having fun, that's good enough.

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If you can, get the aluminum bolts and run a heaier head. The extra weight helps with the noise and improves penetration at the longer distances.
Still only a 40 yard weapon though. The lighter weight of the bolts means more loss of energy past 20 yards.

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You may need a new target too. I ended up with the Block crossbow target. My Excalibur blew right through an alleged Morrell 400fps bag.

They are hammers for certain.


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Originally Posted by WStrayer
If you can, get the aluminum bolts and run a heaier head. The extra weight helps with the noise and improves penetration at the longer distances.
Still only a 40 yard weapon though. The lighter weight of the bolts means more loss of energy past 20 yards.


The bolts are not lighter weight. Most are 400-450 grains. Some manufacturers supply 350-370 gr bolts to exaggerate the fps, but most have gone to 400+. His Siege, with a 400 gr bolt will exceed the ft. pounds of energy of a fast compound bow at the bow...at 70 yds.

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I won't use an X bow, but don't care if others do.

If its legal and you're having fun, that's good enough.

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Got one ordered


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Ordered a Ravin R26 yesterday. Figured I try the dark side.

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Used one to take a 5X6 bull last year and am headed to Utah in a couple weeks to see if I can find a spike.

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Picking one up this week. Excited to try something new. Set up a "walking around" range on my property with different targets. Hunt the generously long bow season in WV when I normally only hunt the 2 week rifle season.

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in my home state x-bows are legal for handi-cap hunters and hunters over 60 years of age ,46 states allow x-bows in some way , i do know Montana does not allow even for the handi cap not sure Montana is following the Federal handi cap provision on federal land by not allow the use of a x-bow for the handi cap during archery season ,Montana does allow the draw-lock bow system for the handi-cap and tried this system its even more difficult for the handi cap to carry. nothing wrong in my eyes for anyone to use a x-bow anyplace during archery and / or rifle season you still can only tag your quota or maybe its just one buck. > for the people that are against x-bows someday you will be old or maybe hurt and become handi cap do you still wanna hunt or just stay home and rot ? so if your a x-bow hunter as i now am enjoy that x bow and be safe , > i did hunt with a regular longbows and recurve bows since i was 10 years old that`s 55 years with a drawn bow even compounds , but started before even compounds were used or invented by ALLEN , for the last 3 years at age 68 and handi capped i now used a x bow , so is that wrong ? i don`t think so ! all forms of hunting and all tools to kill / harvest an animal to eat are fine remember animal rights ,peta and so on these snowflakes want us to fight among ourselves that`s why now we a high wolf population and that`s mess up too. take care ,Pete53


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Pete53, I hear you. I'm only 3 years behind you. Same situation, Been deer hunting all my life. I fell and broke both of my wrist's last year. My bow hunting days are over. I really enjoy bow hunting. Last year I bought a Ravin 29. It shoots as accurate as a rifle at 50 yds. That's as far as I have shot it. That's plenty far enough for me. I prefer to shoot at 20 - 30 yds. I know the Xbow is capable of much greater distances, But it is a lot more fun getting close to a nice buck.

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Im banged and beat up and still dont want an x bow.
Have shot em, buds have em.
I got a lighter weight compound and am still waiting for my lighter weight recurve limbs.

I have killed enough stuff. How I kill is important to me
Have not put a deer in the freezer for the last 2 yrs

Sucks but no bucks worth shooting seen

Have a disabled kid, in her 20s. If she wants a Mission X bow i will buy one for her. She cant handle the cold so itd be ground blind w heater. Whatever she wants, Ill buy it.

She can fill my freezer w X bow.

Im gonna fight the aches and pains and damage as long as I can

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Im a bowhunter.
Not just a deer hunter that uses a bow.

Like guns too.

But late October is magical and it just feels right to tote a recurve.

Dont care what other people do.

I don't need to kill a deer.

So how I go about it matters.

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some us are even past the small aches and pains we just can`t draw a bow anymore , 55 years i used a drawn bow and i have always hunted deer in all of October most of November all the way tell December 31st. , sometimes i never shot a decent buck tell late December in the snow in below zero weather but now after all these health problems i don`t have a choice i got to use a x-bow or quit . i was a power lineman for 35 years in Northern Minnesota that climb a lot of poles over many years , this was a hard job on the body . i just had my 4th back surgery 11 months ago with plates and screws installed, have also had a disc replaced in my neck ,both shoulders have been rebuilt my left shoulder surgeon wants to replace it , knee has had surgery and needs replacement ,eye surgery ,heart surgery too. so tell me how i can pull a bow back anyone with a 30 lb. weight restriction for life ?

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Pete, I feel your pain. When it comes to hunting, To each his own. It sucks when you physically can no longer draw a bow. When it comes down to making the transition from a bow to a Xbow, or not going hunting. I'll take the Xbow hands down, no questions asked. Its about still getting out there in the woods that time of year. Not how you kill a deer or if you kill a deer. I enjoy hunting and would like to do so as long as I possibly can. If a Xbow helps me do that so be it. Beats the He!! out of sitting home.

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i have a love - hate relationship using a x-bow but i can not wait to be back hunting again next fall ! and maybe turkeys too this spring ?


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Correct...those who have a handicap, or age has taken their strength, should be allowed to use a crossbow..

The rest should also be allowed to use a crossbow....during the regular rifle season. I mean they even place scopes on them.

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for the bowhunters who are still able to draw , shoot and hunt with a bow be happy or maybe still feel blessed you can still use a bow . but if you see a old guy with a x-bow just remember that old dude just might have been a long time bowhunter who has a health issue now . i had the privilege to shoot bows with a archer a few times who was know as the best target archer in America back in the 60`s he shot 300`s with a recurve bow with no peep and with his fingers not a release , now days Jim just x -bow hunts but he still misses and dreams of drawing his old Wing recurve bow , sharpening and using Zwickey broadheads for a few more bowhunting seasons. > SO just remember someday you may still want to bowhunt during those wonderful fall days with a drawn- bow and shoot but because of your health you have to either quit or use a x-bow. think about it ? > we all wear out sooner or later ? good luck in the future ,Pete53


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My days with my Elite GT500, with 90 pound limbs, are definitely over. Last year I picked up a new Elite EnKore with 60 pound limbs, what a great bow! And when presented with a Ravin R26 package for a couldn't pass up price, bought that too. I fit pete53's description, busted up old fart that still loves to be out and in it. I look at the Ravin as another tool to be used to keep me going. I've tried and tried recurves and decided it's better for the deer if I don't use one and my primary bow will be the EnKore. But I do like knowing the Ravin is there if I decide to try that too. I did get Ravin's 500gr arrows to use with the 125gr Rage as I like heavy arrows. They help quiet your set-up and have more energy. But what I like the most, is the ability to make it what you want from it and there's pretty much no wrong answer as long as it's legal and ethical.


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I love bowhunting and do it quite a bit each year. After shoulder surgeries on both sides, the amount I can practice and the distances I comfortably shoot has decreased (most of my practice is at 40 as opposed to 60). I picked up a crossbow for Christmas as the writing is on the wall. I won’t shoot it further than I presently would with a vertical bow….but I don’t have to worry about drawing a bow in cold weather further damaging my shoulders. Our season is such that it’s not legal until the rut which means I’ll continue to hunt the month of October with a vertical bow-which is in many ways my favorite time (bachelor groups are patternable, temps are comfortable and our bowhunting plots are crazy productive (I’ve never not had a shot opportunity). As I’ve gotten older, harvesting an animal is far less important than enjoying the fall colors and watching animals interact. A crossbow will simply allow me to extend the years I can bow hunt without further damage/pain.

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one thing most archers have no ideal about is accuracy with a x-bow off hand , try shooting with a bow VS a x-bow. i shot many archery outdoor and indoor shoots in my home state with a compound bow and did well . but now using a x-bow exclusively this is what i have noticed i was more accurate with a compound at all distances compared to off hand shooting a x-bow. before you get negative with what i posted try a x-bow at these distances off- hand you will find the x-bow is hard to handle off hand for many of us . so don`t think its a walk in the park using a x-bow either and then add your handi-cap and its no advantage.


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During the archery season, I hunt bear with a bow but I still prefer a rifle. It has far better balance and is easier to maneuver through the bush

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Good luck I hope that you enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by pete53
one thing most archers have no ideal about is accuracy with a x-bow off hand , try shooting with a bow VS a x-bow. i shot many archery outdoor and indoor shoots in my home state with a compound bow and did well . but now using a x-bow exclusively this is what i have noticed i was more accurate with a compound at all distances compared to off hand shooting a x-bow. before you get negative with what i posted try a x-bow at these distances off- hand you will find the x-bow is hard to handle off hand for many of us . so don`t think its a walk in the park using a x-bow either and then add your handi-cap and its no advantage.



Buy a well balanced bow that is not front heavy and get back to me. A quaiity reverse draw bow has almost perfect balance.

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