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I'm getting stuff rounded up for this winter to start back trapping. I ran a line about 15 years ago but the area where I lived didn't have many coyotes so I never really went after them but where I live now is covered with them (I've shot 49 in the past 3-4 years). Anybody got any preferred or special tricks? Time tried and tested lures? Any suggestions will be appreciated.


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Best bait I've found is a dead skunk. I bury it and set close to the carcass , using guide sticks or rocks. Next best is tainted meat in a hole set with 'Gusto" lure as an attactor.
These two sets never fail for me.



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Most of the same sets and techniques for fox will catch them, but you want to be sure you have enough trap to hold them. Don't know how big they run where you are, but the ones around here will destroy a coil spring two or similar trap. The 3N used to be my choice but in recent years I leave them hung up for decorations and use the MB 650C with cast, offset jaws. They are head and shoulders above any other trap I have ever seen for coyotes. If you put one of those on a coyote and if you've got it staked right, he's your coyote.


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Female coyote urine (especially in estrus). IME dogs are more interested in pee than they are food. I used to know a guy that kept a three legged bitch coyote in a pen with a drain system, and sold bottles of the stuff to fur buyers. It seems like it was $50.00-$100.00 a gallon in the late 70s to early 80s. He hasn't done that for years, but buyers might still know someone else who does.

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I prefer snares. Cheaper, faster, lighter and few losses. Don

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Good stuff! Keep it coming!

Skunks are no problem around here as I pass (over) several a week on the highway between here and work. Never thought of that one. The wife may have my hide for hauling them in so I think I may pass on that one! I used to inadvertently manage to catch a few each year on the line so if I gotta smell anyways I may give it a try sometime.

As far as the traps, I'm using a #3 Duke with a Beefer spring kit, 2/0 stainless chain and a double swivel. Back in the day I hauled in some pretty big bobcats with those and some of the local guys that trap have said they've had good luck out of that same set up without any problems. The 'yotes around here aren't all that big generally but I've seen a few that neared 40lbs.

I've heard about the estrous urine but haven't been able to find what I want. None of the commercial companys I've checked (Hawbaker's, Blue Ridge.......) carry it so if I find it I'll try to post it here so everyone knows.

I was always a dirt hole set guy and probably overused that set but I always had good luck with it. I've caught a few bobcats with a scent post set but like I said I've never been around coyotes much. I've been told that it is very effective so it's definately in the book of tricks to be tried.

Thanks again for all that have listed and if anyone else has anything please share!



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Originally Posted by huntsman22
I prefer snares. Cheaper, faster, lighter and few losses. Don


I've never even given them a try. I always wanted to but have just never gotten with anyone with the know-how and willingness to teach me. For now I'm just going to try to get my feet under me again with a small line of traps but it is for sure planned for the future.


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The future is now....... No time like the present to start. Hang a few when you set steel. Make it part of your line. Heck, the anticipation alone, is reason enuff to try 'em. Won't be long till you figure it out.

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I think one of the best ways to trap coyote (besies snares in winter) is to use 2 different sets per stop. They don't need to be right next to each other. They can be 15 - 20 feet from each other, but with different sets and different smells. Usually a dirt hole and a flat set.

You know dirt holes already. So try some flat sets. They are very easy. Find a piece of dried wood, or a large rock, or whatever. Put the lure on the underneath part of it and set it down where you are going to make your set. Make sure that part is not on the ground though. What you are trying to do is have the lure out in the open so it can be smelled, but underneath so if rain comes it won't get washed away so easily. set your trap out in front about 8 inches the same way you would for a dirt hole. Make sure and bed solid. I like to use a little bit of peat moss on my traps in the fall so if it rains the water sort of drains better and the traps seem to still work. you put urine on top of the object. it doesn't have to be in heat urine.

If you can't find what you want in trapping supplies, google Northwest Trappers Supply. they usually have just about everything you would need.

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We used to trap coyotes a bit, we used urine, usually put it on a dried cow patty in the middle of the set. The pair of traps were buried with dry dirt from under an old house on top to prevent freezing. Some of the best sets were set on the dam of a pond, as the coyotes will travel them rather than cross a ditch. We also used a drag rather than staking them down, that way you could reset in the same spot, didn't ruin it with one catch. Wear rubber gloves to eliminate scent. Coyotes are not easy, let me know if you catch any that are missing some toes. I'll bet you don't.

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Coyotes are super alert to odors and can smell steel traps quickly. Boiling and waxing your traps along with wearing ruuber gloves and keeping all your stuff as scent free as possible is mandatory. If you are going to kneel down to make a set wear hips boots. I use barley hulls to bed my traps Doesn't freeze and is odor free. Mouse urine is great for dirt hole sets.

I use MB 650's with laminated jaws, center swiveled and base plated, I never hard stake, use a 6 ft chain with a drag. I don't own nor use Duke traps Had a couple bad experiences with them and consider them all junk!
Coyotes up here are tough on traps and can really tear them up. I use snares in the winter time when coyote trails are obvious and they work well, Easy to carry a dozen or more with you when running your line.

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I've looked into several other brands and types of traps. I went back with the Dukes out of habit more than anything else. When I was trapping before I was just a teenager and was given several traps by an old-timer in our church that had given it all up. There was only one store in town that carried traps and that's all they carried. They were cheap enough to buy on a teenage lawnmowing salary and always did the job. Admittedly I was usually after much smaller game then with the hardest animals being an occasional otter or large bobcat. Right now I've only purchased about a dozen in a few different sizes to get the taste again and get my feet back under me. As I (if I?) get back into it a little more I will need to get into a little better and a lot more traps. As I mentioned before I'd like to give the Conibears and snares a try just to try something different and see what's out there.

Thanks again to all who have posted. I appreciate the help and recommendations from ya'll and anyone with anything else please feel free to share.


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You might want to check your state trapping laws about using conibears. Where I live they have to be completely underwater or at least 4ft above ground. Pretty tough to use them for coyotes whith those restrictions.


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Originally Posted by DaGriz
You might want to check your state trapping laws about using conibears. Where I live they have to be completely underwater or at least 4ft above ground. Pretty tough to use them for coyotes whith those restrictions.


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I'm glad i don't get my feelings hurt so easily !

Call the ADL and report him..


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Fellers, I just want to catch some 'yotes. How'd we get off on shooting indians and scaplin cowboys anyways??? Yeah, I've traced my ancestory too and I found cowboys, indians, peasants, an english lord and even a knight to the king. What's the big deal? We've got a guy in our church who's grandfather was a nazi officer. Do I look at him any differently? Nope! Unless anybody on here has a relative that was a coyote I don't see the connection.

Here's an idea.....
LET IT GO!




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Now that that's over back to business.

Good call on the regs.

Ours read, "The use of body gripping traps with jaw spread in excess of 7 1/2" is prohibited except when such traps are covered by water.

It is unlawful to set above the ground any steel foothold trap with teeth set upon the jaws or with a jaw spread exceeding 6 1/2".

It is unlawful to set above the ground any body gripping trap with a jaw spread in excess of 5" when using any bait, lure or scent. However, baited body gripping traps with a jaw spread between 5" & 6 1/2" may be used within an enclosure with openings no greater than 60 square inches and the trap trigger recessed at least 12" from all openings. Traps must be staked to prevent enclosures from turning over and may only be used on private lands with written permission of the landowner. No deadfall traps may be used.....blah, blah, blah..."

Last I looked I had figured on about a 330 for 'yotes so I guess that's out the window for the most part. I still wouldn't mind giving them a try on foxes, coons and some muskrats though. What I've seen and heard they seem ideal for the muskrats and a coon's curiosity would be a pretty good play with them also in an enclosure.


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LMAO! Sorry skull, no coyote here so I can't give you any help other than maybe try trapperman.com.


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I'd fo'get the connies (even if t'wer legal in yor area) for yotes. Twas good advice as regards legholds and snares. Mix it up. Keep the eyes peeled for regular trails and crossings with the snares. If you average 15 yotes a year with a rif-fle you should be able to snare some. Lots cheaper...less time consuming...carry more in tow...win-win.

Can't remember who above as was said it, but twas true words; do the snares and you'll soon "get" it!

good luck on the line,

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