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Traditionally twisted 308 165/168
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Regarding the 155 Scenars for game, are you guys using the open or closed tip, or does it matter? Thanks in advance. Every box of 155 Scenars I have says OTM (open tipped match) on the box. Does it matter for what?
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Found 46.0gr of TAC driving a 150gr Partition Gold an accurate and lethal combination for my Tikka SL. GEORGE
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There's not too many 30 caliber rifles I've shot or owned (including the 308 700 Varmint Special) that didn't respond well to the easy button known as the 175 Sierra SMK. An AR-10 with a White Oak clustered 20 around an inch. The very first time the gun was fired. No brass prep, no runout measured, nothing but a pretty basic load. But it has a lot to do with that particular bullet. That bullet with about any reasonable powder (Varget, 15, 3031, 4064, 4320) seated to 2.800 runs with boring easy, good groups in every 308 I've used it in. 30/06, 300 Mags too.
Its long so runout is low, its tangent so it isn't as finicky about seating depth or throat geometry, most standard dies seat it straight and Sierra doesn't screw with its design every two years....
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I’ve shot 150 hornady flat bases for almost everything. When I took it to Africa I used 168TSX. H4895 in both loads. A few years ago I tried 130TTSX I think with TAC and can’t see anything I’d hunt with a 308 that that bullet wouldn’t work for.
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Both of my 308’s love 165 gr Game Kings and 39.5 gr IMR 3031. (A very popular load). I got a .165” group last time I shot one of them. Insane good for a hunting bullet.
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I haven't found a bullet that didn't shoot well in one of my 308 rifles. They are twisted 1-12 to 1-10 X 5
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I don't know the answer just my observations. Sample of one guy. I have a Remington 700 in 308 1/10 twist. It will not shoot 150s over about 2600 fps without loosing accuracy. , but dotes on 165 and 180s at normal velocity. I asked a friend of mine who was a military sharpshooter about it and he said that some 308s do not like the 1/10 twist. and they had even tried 1/14 twists in the 308mwith 150s. I said that my 3006 used 1/10 twists and were exceedingly accurate with 150s at 2900 plus. There was no explanation just that's what they had found. I have another 308 (Winchester 70) with 1/12 twist and it handles the 150s quite normally. So I guess its just the kinks of individual guns. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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For hunting 150's seem to be the best all-around whitetail bullet for me and 165's work best in the M1A's.
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I don't know the answer just my observations. Sample of one guy. I have a Remington 700 in 308 1/10 twist. It will not shoot 150s over about 2600 fps without loosing accuracy. , but dotes on 165 and 180s at normal velocity. I asked a friend of mine who was a military sharpshooter about it and he said that some 308s do not like the 1/10 twist. and they had even tried 1/14 twists in the 308mwith 150s. I said that my 3006 used 1/10 twists and were exceedingly accurate with 150s at 2900 plus. There was no explanation just that's what they had found. I have another 308 (Winchester 70) with 1/12 twist and it handles the 150s quite normally. So I guess its just the kinks of individual guns. Good luck with whatever you decide. I have a Remington .308 that gave poor accuracy with most 150's and low velocity. I've just set the barrel back one thread (0.0625") and had the chamber re-reamed with a throatless reamer. It shoots the 150's much better now as there isn't the massive jump to the lands.
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Working on a new varmit barrel 308 win. in 700 Remington 1 in 12 twist. I had one of these guns 15 to 20 years ago never could get it to shoot. i felt the twist was to slow because standard barrel hunting rifles had 1 in 10 twist. I messed around and got rid of a beautiful rifle. Now Remington still making this lazy twist so it must have been my gun. My question is what bullet weight do you guys shoot with this twist? For what game? For Whitetail I shoot 150 grain Interlocks. If I were going after elk, I might pick 180 grain partitions or something in between.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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I just got 308. But Haven’t shot it yet, waiting for Weather to cool down. I’m going to be using Sierra 168 tipped match kings. 150, 30 cal bullets look too short and stubby to me.
If anyone has load using 168s with big game. Please shoot me a PM or share
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In my Rem 700 .308 the 150gn Nosler Accubond & Varget is all I use for hunting.
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I've had great success with 165 gr sst's and the deer not running more than 25 yards with great shot placement
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Working on a new varmit barrel 308 win. in 700 Remington 1 in 12 twist. I had one of these guns 15 to 20 years ago never could get it to shoot. i felt the twist was to slow because standard barrel hunting rifles had 1 in 10 twist. I messed around and got rid of a beautiful rifle. Now Remington still making this lazy twist so it must have been my gun. My question is what bullet weight do you guys shoot with this twist? For what game? For Whitetail I shoot 150 grain Interlocks. If I were going after elk, I might pick 180 grain partitions or something in between. 150 gr. Interlocks is all I've ever killed anything with in both my .308 rifles. I've used them in my .30-06 but, I honestly think I need a heavier bullet in .30-06.
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I’ve had good luck with 150’s on white tails. Had an uncle and all he ever ran was 180’s in his .308, and he used to hunt CO along with AR, and WI quite often.
That being said, I’ve got some 150 gr Hornady Interlock being pushed with Varget I wouldn’t hesitate to shoot a moose with.
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I just got 308. But Haven’t shot it yet, waiting for Weather to cool down. I’m going to be using Sierra 168 tipped match kings. 150, 30 cal bullets look too short and stubby to me.
If anyone has load using 168s with big game. Please shoot me a PM or share just gotta get the right 150 gr bullet, the 153 gr Afterburner from Apex Outdoors is the highest bc 150 class weight bullet for 1:10 twist barrels in 30 caliber & it's designed to open up down to 1650 fps don't have any loaded for my 308 Win yet but pic shows the 300 WSM on the right, next to one of my 'cats & currently hunting moose with the 153 gr Afterburner in my 300 RUM 153 gr 30 cal Afterburner....
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