I would say there are good high bc 270 “hunting bullets” - 150/165 ablr, 170 berger, 175 tgk, 170 btip, etc…. What is really missing for 270 compared to 6.5/7mm are ‘match’ projectiles - eldm, tmk, scnenar etc….
Lou
An issue with the .270 and the higher BC bullets is the twist rates offered in factory rifles.
I would say there are good high bc 270 “hunting bullets” - 150/165 ablr, 170 berger, 175 tgk, 170 btip, etc…. What is really missing for 270 compared to 6.5/7mm are ‘match’ projectiles - eldm, tmk, scnenar etc….
Lou
An issue with the .270 and the higher BC bullets is the twist rates offered in factory rifles.
For folks who shoot at longer ranges (if you consider that a niche) there is no comparison between any 30-06 load (factory or handload) and a 180gr ~750 G1 7mm bullet at 2900 fps. I doubt the 7PRC does much you can't do with another 7 mag...but off-the-shelf 180gr ELDM loads will be very nice.
This is it in a nutshell.
I generally refrain from the better/best discussions here because so many things work for the couple-boxes-of-ammo-a-year crowd at MPBR. We have folks here that shoot more in a couple of hours or days than some folks shoot in a three-year span. Further, we have folks that shoot animals at a max distance of 75 yards and others that routinely kill stuff past 500 yards.
We also have folks that insist on having three safes full of guns that rarely get used, while others are searching for the one perfect rifle that'll most likely wear multiple barrels in its lifetime. To me, the 7 PRC is for the latter crowd that knows exactly what they want from a platform, bullet and RPMs, and to be able to shoot further without the various handicaps from existing/other chamberings.
Not understanding that shows a bit of either insecurity or plain naivete.
The folks who get a burr under their saddles when a new cartridge is introduced remind me of...
So proof is chambering it; what other makers are known?
Edit: found this in their comments: “ GUN MAKERS PRODUCING THE 7mm PRC Allterra Arms, Atlus Shooting Solutions, Best of the West, Christensen Arms, Fierce Firearms, GA Precision, Gunwerks, Hill Country Rifles, H-S Precision, Horizon Firearms, J.P. Sauer & Sohn, McWhorter Custom Rifles, Proof Research, Remington, Ruger, Savage, Seekins Precision, Short Action Customs, Springfield Armory (coming 2023), Stuteville Precision, TS Customs, & West Texas Ordnance.”
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I like the 7mm PRC. I think it is a great addition to what we have.
Pretty sure I will never own one though.
I like to to shoot my faux LR 270 with 145gr ELD-X. It taught me that out to 600 yards is fairly easy, but it gets more difficult past that. I could probably put the time and effort in, but not in the cards right now. Would rather be in the woods hunting, not shooting.
I loved the idea of the 6.8 Western, and seriously thought I would get one. But I went the fast twist 270 route. When I get that rifle back, hopefully I will have time to get proficient out to 1000 yards on steel.
I personally have no desire to become a long range hunter, but that is just me. If I were truly serious about that, the 7 PRC would be a great route to go.
The PRC has about the same or a skosh less overall capacity than the Rem Mag, looks pretty close to 7 WSM capacity, while the Mashburn adds a far bit over the Rem Mag in usable capacity especially if the gun is set up to run 3.6” combos. I typically get 3050-3100 with 175/180’s so the gain isn’t much over what the PRC is showing.
Here’s a good overview of the new kid. Very fetching, but of no benefit to me. Others may find it very useful as it has some great capabilities on tap.
I have no objections to new stuff whatsoever and enjoy watching the sticks move. Never understood all the sour grapes that result when something demonstrably better in some ways comes out. Toobe also explains, yet again, why a new cartridge with similar capacity to existing ones is necessary to avoid issues with factory ammunition and barrel twist.
I'm old, so have no use for the new kids on the block. However. I want them all to be successful and draw more people to both the shooting sports and hunting. I hope every gun owner buys a hunting license.
I suppose when I was younger a new cartridge rolling on the scene was sorta interesting. As I get older, it seems I just chuckle a bit and think to myself … what can this chambering do that my 30/06 can’t? I’m sure you’ll hear from folks claiming some sorta niche it may be capable of but I got to ask myself is it something we all really were looking for? Simplicity is what satisfies myself these days. I guess we will see how much marketing is dumped into another cartridge.
And those of us that can actually shoot just chuckle a lot because we know its not trying to be a 30-06. Put simply, anything the 30-06 can do at 400 yards and under, the 7mm PRC can too.. and then it can do it some more out to 500, 600, 700 all the way out to 1000 yards. Some of us actually take game out past 200 yards old timer.
I suppose when I was younger a new cartridge rolling on the scene was sorta interesting. As I get older, it seems I just chuckle a bit and think to myself … what can this chambering do that my 30/06 can’t? I’m sure you’ll hear from folks claiming some sorta niche it may be capable of but I got to ask myself is it something we all really were looking for? Simplicity is what satisfies myself these days. I guess we will see how much marketing is dumped into another cartridge.
And those of us that can actually shoot just chuckle a lot because we know its not trying to be a 30-06. Put simply, anything the 30-06 can do at 400 yards and under, the 7mm PRC can too.. and then it can do it some more out to 500, 600, 700 all the way out to 1000 yards. Some of us actually take game out past 200 yards old timer.
Boy Howdy!
Don't discount the ability of "old timers" to chuckle at still being able to kill stuff under 200 yds. with a 30-06 in their 'golden years'..........
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