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#1784169 - 11/06/07 05:47 PM .25 CAL. 120 GR. HORNADY HP EXPANSION ON GAME
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This hunting season I used, for the first time, this bullet on game and killed three deer with it. Overall, performance was good, but on the last animal taken (a large mule deer doe) the performance was a bit of a surprise.

I was using this bullet in a .25/06 at a muzzle velocity of 3000 fps, and the deer was hit from broadside just behind the shoulder at about 225 yards. The bullet went in between ribs and showed NO expansion on the inside wall of the rib cage where it entered; however, when it impacted the lungs and liver the expansion was about what you would expect and these organs were demolished. The exit hole was good but not excessive with a diameter of about 1.25".

To me, this performance seemed to be very much like that of the Berger VLD's that Mule Deer has described in his writings.

What do some of you think? Is this a common occurrence with other HP's. Have any of you had a similar experience with this bullet?

Thank you,

M. Bell







Edited by Ten_Sleep (11/07/07 05:39 AM)
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#1784382 - 11/06/07 07:08 PM Re: .25 CAL. 120 GR. HP EXPANSION ON GAME [Re: Ten_Sleep]
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If you're refering to the 25 cal Sierra 120gr HPBT, sounds like it performed as advertised! ;\)
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#1784607 - 11/06/07 08:49 PM Re: .25 CAL. 120 GR. HORNADY HP EXPANSION ON GAME [Re: DesertSandman]
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Sandman,

Sorry to be so spaced-out and stupid! Now you know it was not a Sierra. Perhaps you've had some experience with the Hornady.

Thanks for setting me straight,

M. Bell
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#1784799 - 11/07/07 04:22 AM Re: .25 CAL. 120 GR. HORNADY HP EXPANSION ON GAME [Re: Ten_Sleep]
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How do you know the bullet expanded at all if it wasn't recovered?
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#1784915 - 11/07/07 05:35 AM Re: .25 CAL. 120 GR. HORNADY HP EXPANSION ON GAME [Re: Middlefork_Miner]
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Miner,

If the bullet had not expanded, I don't think the extensive damage to lungs and liver would have occurred, and besides the exit hole was at least 1.25" in diameter. Also, the deer was down within 10 yards of where she was standing when shot. Based on these factors, I have to assume the bullet did indeed expand.

Thanks for your query and intrest,

M. Bell
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#1784951 - 11/07/07 05:56 AM Re: .25 CAL. 120 GR. HORNADY HP EXPANSION ON GAME [Re: Ten_Sleep]
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Guess I'm a little confused regarding Sandman's comments. The bullet was the Hornady HP and not the Sierra HPBT, correct? Both bullets are excellent IME, BTW.

If I understand correctly, the bullet entered the chest wall without contacting a rib, so there would not be much resistance there to initiate expansion (skin plus a little muscle tissue?). But there was plenty of damage to the internal organs and the exit wound indicate reasonable expansion. Sounds like good performance to me.

FWIW, I did read on some internet forum that if the hollowpoint on the Hornady is dinged up, the bullet can pencil through. Haven't ever seen that myself, but I do tend to look at the points of the bullets before I load them to go hunting.

Can you describe the performance of the Hornady's on the other deer? thanks

BTW: there must be a good story regarding the source of the name of Ten Sleep, WY???


Edited by southtexas (11/07/07 05:59 AM)

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#1784955 - 11/07/07 05:58 AM Re: .25 CAL. 120 GR. HORNADY HP EXPANSION ON GAME [Re: Ten_Sleep]
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Normally I use the Sierra but have used the Hornady in one 25/06 without any problems. As long as they put game down as you describe, I would continue to use the bullet. I seem to remember reading that the bullet was developed so Joyce Hornady could use her 25cal to hunt elk, but that is just from memory and not quoteable.Rick.

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#1785110 - 11/07/07 07:11 AM Re: .25 CAL. 120 GR. HORNADY HP EXPANSION ON GAME [Re: Ten_Sleep]
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Ten_Sleep,
Your not stupid, you just omitted the brand of bullet. ;\)
Sorry I've no personal experience with the Hornady version of 25 cal 120gr hpbt, I use the Sierra.

Hornady followed Sierra's lead by producing these Hollow Point Hunting bullets with a heavier/stouter jacket, much like the HPBT GameKing.

P.S.
Sounds like the hunting has been good for you in the Worland/Ten Sleep area.
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#1785185 - 11/07/07 07:44 AM Re: .25 CAL. 120 GR. HORNADY HP EXPANSION ON GAME [Re: Ten_Sleep]
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re: 120 Gr Hornady. I shot 3 deer total with the bullet in a 25-06 and a full dose of RL 22. None over 110 lbs. First 2, bullet hit chest slightly quartering and expanded immediately on near chest wall, did extensive damage internally and exited with maybe inch, inch and a half hole. Third deer I shouldn't have shot at but did. Had just missed a doe by hitting an unseen limb and a small spike about 80 lbs went trotting thru my shooting lane quartering sharp away about 100 yds. Swung crosshairs thru and it looked so good the trigger got pulled before I realized it. Bullet unfortunately smacked him square in the hip joint. When he finally got up another thru the chest finished it. But the bullet in the hip had an entry hole the size of a silver dollar (blowback I suppose) and neither bullet nor bone penetrated the body cavity. Everything stopped in the ham and I only found parts & pieces of jacket/lead. After that I started loading 100 gr. Barnes and if I load anymore I'm going to the 115 gr. FWIW.
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#1785406 - 11/07/07 10:01 AM Re: .25 CAL. 120 GR. HORNADY HP EXPANSION ON GAME [Re: ricksmith]
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 Originally Posted By: ricksmith
Normally I use the Sierra but have used the Hornady in one 25/06 without any problems. As long as they put game down as you describe, I would continue to use the bullet. I seem to remember reading that the bullet was developed so Joyce Hornady could use her 25cal to hunt elk, but that is just from memory and not quoteable.Rick.


Actually the Hornady 120 Gr HP was developed for the 257 Weatherby for velocitys in the 3300FPS which would make it fine for the 25-06.

My T/C pro hunter 25-06 with 28" barrel shoots it at 3094. \:\)

Actually Joyce Hornady was the founder of Hornady and a "man"
who was accidently killed in a plane crash flying into New Orleans for the 1981 SHOTSHOW. His plane crashed into Lake Ponchatrain (sp.) along with several other Hornady people on board.

Doc



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Edited by Doctor_Encore (11/07/07 10:07 AM)

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