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Drill a small drain hole in the back end of the the channel. With a fairly tight fit and just a bit of oil it may be creating a vacuum behind it when it tries to come out by tapping it on something, etc. Then you could use air to blow it out.
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Does anyone make a threaded pin that works without a detent? Wouldn't be as handy but saves you from tossing that receiver.
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Try acetone flushing using a small syringe type tip while holding the lower with the hole down..........that will flush any residual oil out that is holding it, then dry it with air & try tapping it out or try the magnet again.
If that doesn't work, just use the short spring method.
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If all else fails try to find a screw type pin like Colt used on the SP-1’s.
Just don’t get the later type that were for large pin conversions.
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It isn’t coming out. I don’t think pushing it in all the way, shortening the spring and using a second detent is gonna work, not on this action anyway. With the detent all the way in there isn’t enough room behind it for the second detent, let alone the spring that needs to go in there as well. The hole isn’t deep enough.
Crapola! New lower on the way. Great way to burn a Ben Franklin. I think you have the first pin stuck only part way down the raceway hole for it. The detent spring is 1.03 inches in length, and the detent pin is .324 ~ish in length. If the spring compresses 50%, and that’s generous - that’s at least .500 plus .324 for .824 needed to install the spring and pin. Two pins shouldn’t be more than .648 - in length, so if the second pin isn’t able to go in the hole, the first pin isn’t fully seated at the end of it’s raceway. The raceway should be .965-.985 in length - leaving room for a short spring between the two detent pins.
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It isn’t coming out. I don’t think pushing it in all the way, shortening the spring and using a second detent is gonna work, not on this action anyway. With the detent all the way in there isn’t enough room behind it for the second detent, let alone the spring that needs to go in there as well. The hole isn’t deep enough.
Crapola! New lower on the way. Great way to burn a Ben Franklin. I think you have the first pin stuck only part way down the raceway hole for it. The detent spring is 1.03 inches in length, and the detent pin is .324 ~ish in length. If the spring compresses 50%, and that’s generous - that’s at least .500 plus .324 for .824 needed to install the spring and pin. Two pins shouldn’t be more than .648 - in length, so if the second pin isn’t able to go in the hole, the first pin isn’t fully seated at the end of it’s raceway. The raceway should be .965-.985 in length - leaving room for a short spring between the two detent pins. If that is correct it must have two detent pins in it; one put in before I bought it “new” at a gun show and the one I’m responsible for. That kinda makes sense as the spring didn’t want to compress enough for installation even with the installation tool. I was having a very hard time with it. With what should be 1 pin in it I can’t push the pin in any further, that is with a punch and brass hammer tapping it as hard as I’m comfortable with. I bet it had a pin in it when I bought it. Will try the drill bit / epoxy option and if that don’t work the threaded take down pin may be a good option. I don’t plan to separate upper / lower often. This was planned to be a lightweight 6.5 G deer rifle with 16” Faxon Gunner profile barrel. Thanks for all the ideas. I appreciate it!
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No need to buy a whole new lower. If you absolutely just can't get it out, here's a few things you could do to salvage it.
Option 1
Seat the detent as far back as possible. It's OK to use a hammer and drive it on in. Shorten the spring, buy new detent and still use the lower.
Option 2
KNS Precision Enhanced Takedown Pin
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Has this problem been resolved?
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I would still drill the vent hole and air pressure it out. No hole isn't good . Never knew lowers could be so cheap they wouldn't have one.
30 dollar lowers in the white we bought years ago even had em.
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Never got it out. Went with a pivot pin that doesn’t require a detent. KNS enhanced pivot pin is what I used
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