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I was looking at a pre-64 model 70 in 375 H&H and was wondering what the average going rate….ballpark…on the rifle if it was in honest condition? It hasn’t been altered in any way that I can see.

I hate being “that guy” but I’m making an exception this time. 😀

Thanks in advance guys. 👍🏼

"That guy".... The one up really late at night asking questions? "Honest condition" doesn't really say what condition it's in. Is it 80, 90, 95% condition? If it is unaltered/all original, that is a plus.

I said honest condition because it’s almost 70 years old and not abused…. I’ve always disliked the percentage based numbers but I understand why some people do so for a percentage I’d say it’s 85%+. It’s damn near 70 years old so I think it’s in excellent shape for its age. I might have to go back and look at it closer…

It had a rear site that I think is factory but it’s not the same as the one on my 1 year older 30-06…the 375 rear site was a “rough V” with no outline.

I’m being “that guy” because these threads, like the one I started 😀, are exceedingly difficult to answer without pictures and details but I decided to throw the dice and do it anyway.

I think they’re asking $1200 or $1300 which seemed like a good deal for a pre-64 375.

That is a hell of a good deal, based on your description. It sounds like it may be an original sight. It would look like this:



IF it is all original and in 85% condition, that rifle will hold it's value which is right around $2,800.00+, from what I've seen. I'd buy it at $1,200.00. I've sold rechambered 375's for more than that.

12-1300 is a STEAL on anything original P64 375 in nice condition that hasn’t been chopped or whooped on too bad. The darned actions are going for 1k pretty easily most days.

Saw a really.minty pre 64 375 bring 3275 last Friday at a local auction...mb

Thanks a lot guys. I’ll go check it out!

That is the exact same rear site. Thanks

When you do, check it over really well for cracks in the stock. Behind the tang especially. Also, It should also have a 25" barrel. Some guys have shortened them, so keep an eye on that. Another thing to watch out for is, make sure it is an H&H receiver. It will look like this from the top side looking down:



Make sure it looks like this, with the holes closer in the rear bridge and the cutouts at the rear and front of the bridges to allow for the longer H&H cartridges. Don't laugh, there have been guys that bought an H&H rifle, only to find out that it was built on a standard receiver.

Thanks. It was a 25”bbl and I specifically looked for cracks but it looked great. The bore was bright with strong rifling.

I’ll update tomorrow.

Thanks

An unmolested action (no extra side mount holes) is worth nearly the ask; hopefully it’s still there for you.

Great news, looking forward to the update.

For sure!

Sweet, can't wait for pictures and the rest of the story!!

Sounds like late 80s or early 90s price to me... great deal, especially if original!!! Nothing wrong with a little "patina" from love and use... just gives them character and certainly has not hurt the interest in old Winchester levers if that means anything.

If nothing else Ace', you have provided a great cabin fever diversion and have got the "fire competitive juices boiling away. I, like many others, will likely make an extra effort to force myself to hit the local hide-outs here in the next day or so looking for "treasure!!!"

Good luck with the rest of the "hunt!"

Aces...you buy this thing? If not, you can just PM me the info and I'll remove the temptation for you. LOL

ha, ya, regardless if somethings not right, id be on it.

I bought a pre-64 375 H&H almost a year ago to the day. Very clean gun, all original. I'm not sure what percentage I'd assign to it but similar to your assessment I considered it very good condition relative to the age of the gun. I believe it was manufactured in 1960 but I'd have to look at the serial number. It was not a Super Grade. I paid $2,000 and was pretty happy with that price. I've monitored them since. I would say most of them are being listed between $2700 and $3500 (but you can "ask" whatever you want for them).

For what it's worth, I threw a Leupold VX6HD 1-6-24 scope on it and mine is a tack driver. Might be my favorite gun in the safe. Fits like a custom.

I think you did great at 2k for a clean 375!

Hey guys…sorry for not getting back to this thread but I do appreciate everyone giving their learned opinions, that’s why I love this site. I’ve said before that a guy could carefully vet the active members here and if he chose a half dozen or so he could accomplish anything! The knowledge is vast and freely shared and I appreciate that.

Update…

I had time (and remembered) so I swung by and surprised that it’s still there. It is original EXCEPT the original owner bought it 1954 and had it rechambered immediately to 375 Weatherby….other than that it is, in some respect, still a 375 H&H with the luxury of churning out fire formed 375 Weatherby brass. 😀

It’s $1299 and I had it set aside while I continue to mull over something that I don’t need….but it’s NEVER been about need, it’s always been about feeding the illness. 😀

Thanks again guys.

Unless you are buying a gun for collector status I do not understand why folks get all bent out of shape over one being rechambered to 375 Weatherby. If you are actually going to hunt with a gun it is going to get beat up some and that will lower its value to a collector. So will it be a hunting tool or a safe queen?

Let me know where it is and I may have a go at it, I could use the action

So you want to arbitrarily look at it and decide what "for it's age means?" When a perfectly valid designation for condition is available as a standard? That is beyond ridiculous! A long while back I sold a huge stack of rifles brand new in boxes here from the '60s and '70s. Would they be better than new for their age?

If you want to sell the stock let me know👀

Shoot it and enjoy it!

I know this is an old post but found exactly what I was looking for and wanted to say thanks

This is an old thread. I'm wondering if the OP ended up buying said rifle in the OP? The price would have still been pretty good, even though it had been rechambered to 375 WBY. I actually sold one a couple years ago, and got far more than the price the OP stated. As for the 375 H&H pre 64 model 70, if in original condition, they sure hold their value well. I saw one over the summer that was original, and the asking price was $1,999.99. That rifle didn't last long on the rack either. I went back to check on it, and it was gone a month later. Then I saw another one in better condition for nearly $3,000.00.. Like what has been said here, by some guys in the know: The H&H actions are worth the asking price of the OP's complete rifle in question. Then the stocks are worth quite a bit as well, if all original.