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This is super helpful and makes sense. They both shoot under an inch and I’m consistent at 500. I’m thinking I was miss reading the wind. VX5 15x on the 7mag, and a Trijicon Credo 4–16 X 50 on the 700.

Currently a VX5 on the 7mag but I have an SWFA 10X that I could use and I have a Trijicon Credo 4–16 X50

Based on what I’m reading I think I’m going to hold off on anything other than working up some different loads and trying to improve my capabilities, personally, as a shooter.

Maybe I will try a one of those Arkens ‘Stick recommends.

That sounds wise to me

The Reupold Confession initially,would have perhaps changed the conversation. Hint.

Barkin' Arken pointed towards 1600yd steel. Big Green 7mm RemMag,3.580" COAL 180 ELD Smooches at 2980fps. Hint.



'Nother with 3-12x LRTS/G3. Throats identical(by design). Shorter spout at 2950fps. Hint.




I like my 280's throated same. Hint.






Your tool selection(s),are hurting you MUCHLY. Hint...............

Never used a VX5, and not looking to bash it, but I wouldn’t trust that scope unless/until it shot a damn fine tall target test or three and then returned to zero and shot a small group.

Heck… just do the poor man’s version. Shoot a shot at 100 yards, dial the scope up 15-20 MOA, back to zero, shoot a shot, repeat. If the group isn’t “under an inch” then Houston, you have a problem. If it passes that test, then shoot a tall target test. It should print those groups “under an inch” right up the line. I had a Zeiss that did ok in terms of elevation tracking/repeating but around, if memory serves, 12 MOA from my zero it’d print about an inch to the left of the line. I have a Swaro with a reticle canted slightly relative to the adjustments; as you dial up, the shots just gradually drift off to the right of the centerline. No bueno.

All this stuff adds up. Some scope tracking error… some wind call error…

And, bullets. I swear to you, if you haven’t tried 162 ELDM’s in your 7 mag, they will up your game all by themselves.

I’m no long range shooter expert by any means but I did stay at holiday inn.
in all seriousness. And this just from my limited knowledge
If you’re shooting those guns with those scopes under an inch at 100, but you’re 2 moa+ at 500. It’s probably your technique.
My cheap tc venture in 270, with VX2 3-9x40 CDS can hit 8” gong at 600 consistently with cheap 140 SST bullets.. Past that my groups start to open up. It doesn’t help the thick cross hair cover all of the gong but the most outer edges
I’d try different bullets or keep working on your shooting technique and get more consistent groups at 300/400 yards before going 500/600

All good! Thanks this is all helpful.

‘Stick, what is the Last pic? The “Incredible Hulk”. Is that a 7mag also?

Yeah it does all add up. Your assessment makes sense. I will try the tracking exercise you suggest.

'Hulk is a SALAMI 280,that lives on Lapooey brass and is fhuqking sensational with both 180's and 190 Beer Cans. False shouldered Virgin. Hint.






162 ELD,175 NPT,180 ELD and 190 Beer Can. The Nuzzler,obviously for fhuqking humor,as few things are fhuqking funnier. Hint.



.838 BC Beer Cans are unfhuqking believable. Hint.

LaBamba is another SALAMI 280 NASTY Bitch,that do same. Hint.






Just sayin'..............

That Trijicon Credo 4–16 should get the job done for you if your shooting out to 700yds. I would put it on your most accurate rifle and put some rounds down range. put some flags down range, keep an eye on your wind. Pay attention to your mirage.
move back to 500 where you have some confidence. Practice basic fundamentals. Trigger control, breathe, relax, squeeze, follow through, etc. Call your shots. Get good at 500. Then move out to 700. That should get you better results than just starting a 700 and guessing why your not hitting the target. Jmo. I would try that first before spending any money.

Copy that. Gonna start here.

Man, Stick you definitely have all the goods. Sure looks like fun.

Multiple new rifles today and am sortin' through how to feed the fire. Hint.




OEM Howie Mini Carbon DBM's are Dog Schit junk,as are their mags. So I'm torn on tossing in Wayne guts or adding to my CZ Mag Hate ala JO's CZ Mag DBM in today's 6 ARC. The JO Gen2 BDL bottom is THE schit,but I'm waiting on Mail and already stbbed on in my 7" RPM 22 PPC AFI Carbon Queen. Hint.






On today's 7" RPM 223 SALAMI,I'm thinking I'll ride a Shim Slide for it's modest 2.530" 88 ELD Smooches in a GB Outlander. Cain't know though,as my AICS DBM love is to the fhuqking core! Not sure I'll get to the 7mm RemMag tonight. Hint..............

Easy to like the 180 eld m’s
Area 419 built 7mm mag…

Very nice, always puts a smile on my face when there all touching @ 100yds.

More than enough glass to do what you want to get done.

One more thing...if possible, shoot with a partner, spoter, they can be a help in calling conditions, and you both learn something.

Good Luck.

Yessir!

I would prioritize shootability, glass, and bullets, in that order. Your Tikka 7RM isn’t the rifle to learn LR shooting with, IMO. That RPR in 6.5 CM with your SS 10x on top, shooting the 147 ELD, would be a great tool. If sticking with your .308, the 155 Scenar would be a good choice, and your Credo 4-16x should work okay.