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I had a Savage FP in 308 that with reloads would do .5" all day. Never should have sold it. Now have a Tikka Veil that will do whatever I need it to do as long as I do my part.

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I have great accuracy with 30-06, 270, 308 and 7mm-08, some took longer to develop but with patient load development it can be done.

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I can't say the .308 is over or underrated in regard to accuracy...nor can I do it for the 6.5 CM.

I can say I have a generic load for both of those that's shot well in every rifle I've put it through. Currently using the generic .308 load in 5 different rifles and the generic 6.5 CM load in 4 different rifles....and I've let more than a few go chambered in each that worked well in the past. Neither of those generic load were "worked up". They are the only two rounds I've had a generic load work out that well across so many different rifles.

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I have several generic loads for the 308 that any healthy rifle ought to shoot well. I'm not claiming originality either, just good execution in assembly.

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I think the real accomplishment, is 30 cal ballistics in a smaller shell. I can't make any fantastic claims for accuracy because I'm not a great shot. Even from the bench. But I've spent some hard labor packing my Dad's elk back to camp that he took with grandpa's circa 52' Win 70 Featherweight. Those excursions weren't boring :-)

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Absolutely nothing wrong with a .308 in my book. I have one with a 95 Palma chamber and it's easily as accurate or more accurate than my 6.5s. For hunting in my area, I'll take a .308 any day. I still like the 6.5 Creedmoor....and the 6 Creedmoor.

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Originally Posted by djb
The forum is slow these days, might as well kick the hornets nest.

I am working on loads for my 5th 308 Win. Not hard to get MOA groups, but I've never had a real smoker. For a tack driver, I'd bet on a 6.5 Creed any day.

Don’t reckon the issue is with the cartridge. The 308 will respond to as much load development you can tolerate. But, it don’t take much.


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some of the most accurate rifles I have encountered were early 700ADLs in 308 WIN

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My latest 5 shot group from my 308. Not my best shooting but ok.

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I re-entered the 308 world a few years ago when I bought a Mauser M12. It is pretty accurate with the 168 gr ELDX and factory Federal 165 gr blue box that I used below.

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Have a 308 I worked up a load for. Did a velocity test with about 8-10 rounds, picked one to try. Tried one powder, one charge, one bullet, one seating depth, got .4" @100. One and done.

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Any guys on here actually serve their country in some foreign sht hole, and see first hand, the 7.62 feed flawlessly from machine guns?

Fk the creedmoor. Bench rest creations have little to do with what makes a great hunting cartridge.

Any gunwriter claiming the creedmoor is a better cartridge, should join the fkn Army or Marines, as the spoiled fk probably has too much time on his hands.......

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Originally Posted by mainer_in_ak
Any guys on here actually serve their country in some foreign sht hole, and see first hand, the 7.62 feed flawlessly from machine guns?

Fk the creedmoor. Bench rest creations have little to do with what makes a great hunting cartridge.

Any gunwriter claiming the creedmoor is a better cartridge, should join the fkn Army or Marines, as the spoiled fk probably has too much time on his hands.......


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A bit of CDS manifesting there.

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Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by mainer_in_ak
Any guys on here actually serve their country in some foreign sht hole, and see first hand, the 7.62 feed flawlessly from machine guns?

Fk the creedmoor. Bench rest creations have little to do with what makes a great hunting cartridge.

Any gunwriter claiming the creedmoor is a better cartridge, should join the fkn Army or Marines, as the spoiled fk probably has too much time on his hands.......


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I have three, both less than an inch groups with 150 Sierra GameKing bullets. It rates right up there with me. I guess I should throw them SOB’s away

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I have three, both less than an inch groups with 150 Sierra GameKing bullets. It rates right up there with me. I guess I should throw them SOB’s away


Let me PM you an address of a disposal company that will take them . grin

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Originally Posted by mainer_in_ak
Any guys on here actually serve their country in some foreign sht hole, and see first hand, the 7.62 feed flawlessly from machine guns?

Fk the creedmoor. Bench rest creations have little to do with what makes a great hunting cartridge.

Any gunwriter claiming the creedmoor is a better cartridge, should join the fkn Army or Marines, as the spoiled fk probably has too much time on his hands.......

Dear Macho Man Randy Savage,
The military has been using the 6.5 Crapmoor in sniper rifles.
I agree with you on the 7.62 rounds in machine guns. M240s are superb in the feeding department, and might be decidedly less so with a steeper shouldered round.
Signed,
Guy who sent a few rounds downrange with 7.62 chambered rifles and machine guns

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