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Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise KenMi #18372598 04/25/23
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Riflehunter Campfire Regular R Joined: Aug 2021 Posts: 1,653	Originally Posted by KenMi Originally Posted by Riflehunter Originally Posted by Big Stick You CLUELESS Drooling Fhuqktards are a hoot...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!? "Frontal area",hits "harder" and "power" are Window Licking staples. Hint. The boys issued a fhuqking 308,had zero "choices" and 'surprisingly" most of the "vaunted" heritage was Pre-LRF and a fhuqking guess at best. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. Physics just "happens" to matter and the Transonic slip of a 308 is fhuqking HILARIOUS,compared to a 264 Kreed. Hint. You Amazingly STUPID Fhuqks never disappoint,by simply doing your best. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. Have you ever killed anything, anything at all at long range? No, but dammit he's ready. Lol. The virtual numbers are all set for the virtual hunting. Have to have high BC, long OAL, and low virtue for that game. He only shoots steel plates at long distance. That's why "frontal area", "hits harder" and "power" make no difference to him. They still go "twang"! Even a .224. Last edited by Riflehunter; 04/25/23.

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Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise djb #18372636 04/25/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,549 Likes: 8 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,549 Likes: 8 Paradise,Alaska	Ladies, It ain't my intent to diminish your Dumbfhuqktitude,nor your non-hetero correspondence...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint Congratulations?!? I'm torn on my BEST 308 and they are wares you've never seen or could "afford". Hint. Bless your heart(s) for Lying,Crying and Trying. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!....... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise djb #18372680 04/25/23
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Coyote10 Campfire Regular C Joined: Dec 2022 Posts: 2,327	Dang stick might be harder on rifles than I am. That scope got the schit kicked out of it.

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise SlickLizard #18372694 04/25/23
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texken Campfire Tracker T Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 3,148 central texas	Originally Posted by SlickLizard if you're getting MOA and you're talking about hunting rifles, WTH is the problem with accuracy? Creedmore may be a tack driver, but I'll take a 308, 270, or 30-06 for hunting any day. Yep, you kicked the hornet's nest of the unrepentant old guy who despises Creedmores. you might want to talk with some snipers that layed out in the country for hours on hours about their .308's ( that was nam) Last edited by texken; 04/25/23.

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise Rossimp #18372720 04/25/23
Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 21,830 Likes: 4 Clinging to our God and Guns Dillonbuck Campfire Ranger
Dillonbuck Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 21,830 Likes: 4 Clinging to our God and Guns	Originally Posted by Rossimp Wonder how many long range hits were made by sniper teams in combat that went between 500-800 meters with a 7.62x51. With today’s super match grade barrel accuracy and bullet technology it’s only gotten better. It’ll never overtake the 6.5 Creedmoor in very long range work, but for larger game (500-1,000+lbs) the 308 Win, IMO, hits harder with more authority and more blood loss from the muzzle out to 400 yards. Having almost 17% more frontal area and easily 40 gr - 60 gr more of bullet weight it provides tremendous power for hunting big animals, more so than the 6.5mm Creedmoor can provide with its lighter bullet weights and pencil size holes. I could care less about what’s happening out at 700 meters, but that’s just me. To each his own. Meters? WTF man?🙃🙃 Last edited by Dillonbuck; 04/25/23. Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!

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Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise djb #18372960 04/25/23
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Mackay_Sagebrush Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,867 Likes: 6	I have spent more than a few hours behind an M24 as well as an M110, as both were issued weapons. I have zero issues with the .308. Here at home I hunt with a .308 more often than not and have found it to be a very accurate cartridge and have found no problems getting my rifles to shoot small groups. No flies on the 6.5CM either, and I have a couple of those as well, along with a .260, but I have killed a fair bit of elk and mule deer with the .308 and am quite familiar with it, so it is often the first thing I tend to grab. THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running! www.lostriverammocompany.com

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise djb #18373394 04/26/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,549 Likes: 8 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,549 Likes: 8 Paradise,Alaska	The FN SPR A1,was the best over the counter 308 offering and their C/L spouts are hammers. Hint................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise SlickLizard #18374489 04/26/23
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tzone Campfire 'Bwana T Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 46,745 Just The Tip	Originally Posted by SlickLizard if you're getting MOA and you're talking about hunting rifles, WTH is the problem with accuracy? Creedmore may be a tack driver, but I'll take a 308, 270, or 30-06 for hunting any day. Yep, you kicked the hornet's nest of the unrepentant old guy who despises Creedmores. Despises them but hasn't shot one... Camp is where you make it.

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise djb #18374557 04/26/23
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,549 Likes: 8 Paradise,Alaska	The 264 Kreedmire,simply connects mechanical dots related to Physics,which Droolers cain't savvy. Hint. There's a WHOPPING .044" diameter "difference" betwixt it and a 308. That's 14 layers of Scotch Tape,which is "HUGE" and VERY "important" to Critters. Hint. LAUGHING! The 264 Kreed',simply arranges meaningful start/impact velocities,with rather modest recoil and such things tend to treat their Owners well. Impact velocities arrive at higher levels,which promote projectile performance,atmospherics are fended capably and recoil is rather sedate,in relative extrapolation of the improved performance. Hint. The 'Kreed's Supersonic Range greatly exceeds the 308 Win's,which is tough on Crying Karen Window Lickers. Hint. Physics ain't "subjective". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise Big Stick #18374678 04/26/23
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mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,860 Likes: 4	Originally Posted by Big Stick The 264 Kreed',simply arranges meaningful start/impact velocities,with rather modest recoil and such things tend to treat their Owners well. On top of that the SAAMI spec chamber for the 6.5 has a throat section much closer to bullet diameter than that for the 308, increasing the likelihood of an off the rack 6.5 being a good shooter.

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Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise Big Stick #18374760 04/26/23
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,430 Texas	Originally Posted by Big Stick The 264 Kreedmire,simply connects mechanical dots related to Physics,which Droolers cain't savvy. Hint. There's a WHOPPING .044" diameter "difference" betwixt it and a 308. That's 14 layers of Scotch Tape,which is "HUGE" and VERY "important" to Critters. Hint. LAUGHING! The 264 Kreed',simply arranges meaningful start/impact velocities,with rather modest recoil and such things tend to treat their Owners well. Impact velocities arrive at higher levels,which promote projectile performance,atmospherics are fended capably and recoil is rather sedate,in relative extrapolation of the improved performance. Hint. The 'Kreed's Supersonic Range greatly exceeds the 308 Win's,which is tough on Crying Karen Window Lickers. Hint. Physics ain't "subjective". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................. Who cares if the "supersonic range" of the 308 is less than the Gaymoor's? Dog I rescued in January

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise djb #18375049 04/26/23
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mainer_in_ak Campfire Regular M Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,608 Likes: 1 Interior, Alaska	.308 is kinda like Stockholms syndrome for us former military dudes. That's about it. Not earth shattering anywhere, but yet remains....... Last edited by mainer_in_ak; 04/26/23.

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise djb #18375122 04/26/23
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Coyote10 Campfire Regular C Joined: Dec 2022 Posts: 2,327	.308 is a cartridge that just gets the job done. Nothing fancy, just a great cartridge. Wouldn't give 50 cents for a 6.5 creed. Give me anything on a 308 win or 06 case, every time. You can thank the 06 and 308 your not speaking a foreign language and voting socialist communist or whatever they do. And thank you to those who used them in the name of liberty. But the 6.5 creed has better b.c., get the heck outta here lmao Last edited by Coyote10; 04/27/23.

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise Big Stick #18375166 04/26/23
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moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,930 PA	Originally Posted by Big Stick You CLUELESS Drooling Fhuqktards are a hoot...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!? "Frontal area",hits "harder" and "power" are Window Licking staples. Hint. The boys issued a fhuqking 308,had zero "choices" and 'surprisingly" most of the "vaunted" heritage was Pre-LRF and a fhuqking guess at best. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. Physics just "happens" to matter and the Transonic slip of a 308 is fhuqking HILARIOUS,compared to a 264 Kreed. Hint. You Amazingly STUPID Fhuqks never disappoint,by simply doing your best. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. Oddly enough in 37 years of hunting the transonic barrier has not yet come up as an issue

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise djb #18375279 04/26/23
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,549 Likes: 8 Paradise,Alaska	DooshMike, The HILARITY of your "life's" experience and Brokedicktitude,do not factor innovation(s)...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Bless your poor poor(literally) heart,for believing otherwise. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise djb #18377028 04/27/23
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prairie_goat Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 8,898 Montana	The 308 is like an old hunting buddy. May have lost a step over the years, and you've heard all their stories 1,000 times. But they still accomplish their fair share, and they'll be there an hour before dawn on opening morning, ready to go hunting.

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise tzone #18377157 04/27/23
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SlickLizard Campfire Member S Joined: Jan 2023 Posts: 265 golden colorado	Tzone I have shot one. Medium size hog just before dark. He flopped down. Gone when we went to collect him after dark. Head shot. Only hog I've ever lost. Show class, have pride, and display character. If you do, winning will take care of itself. Coach Bryant.

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise DonFischer #18377179 04/27/23
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pete53 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 8,301 Northern USA	Originally Posted by DonFischer All the 1/2" rifles won't win many if any benchrest shoots. Then again all the 1/4"- bench rest rifles in the world won't do you as well as a 308W w/200gr bullet facing a pissed off Grizzly! Pretty much any cartridge can kill a big game animal at 500yds if YOU can place the bullet right! Then again you can watch any animal run off at any distance if you miss, regardless what your shooting! > that is a very good point ! 1 LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise rickt300 #18377430 04/27/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,549 Likes: 8 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,549 Likes: 8 Paradise,Alaska	Originally Posted by rickt300 Originally Posted by Big Stick The 264 Kreedmire,simply connects mechanical dots related to Physics,which Droolers cain't savvy. Hint. There's a WHOPPING .044" diameter "difference" betwixt it and a 308. That's 14 layers of Scotch Tape,which is "HUGE" and VERY "important" to Critters. Hint. LAUGHING! The 264 Kreed',simply arranges meaningful start/impact velocities,with rather modest recoil and such things tend to treat their Owners well. Impact velocities arrive at higher levels,which promote projectile performance,atmospherics are fended capably and recoil is rather sedate,in relative extrapolation of the improved performance. Hint. The 'Kreed's Supersonic Range greatly exceeds the 308 Win's,which is tough on Crying Karen Window Lickers. Hint. Physics ain't "subjective". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................. Who cares if the "supersonic range" of the 308 is less than the Gaymoor's? Karen, Such things represent velocity retention,which slips atmospherics better,arrives the scene with a higher percentage of velocity,which tends to bolster terminal affects,amongst a host of other constants overy your pointy head and crossed eyes...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? M40 contoured Mike Rock 11.25" 5R here,chambered M852. MacaMillion,Marty steel M4 bottom,yada,yada,yada. As good as 308's get. Hint. Keep "living" vicariously,despite it being your ONLY "move". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: The highly overrated 308 Win. - accuracy wise Big Stick #18377638 04/27/23
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,430 Texas	Originally Posted by Big Stick Originally Posted by rickt300 Originally Posted by Big Stick The 264 Kreedmire,simply connects mechanical dots related to Physics,which Droolers cain't savvy. Hint. There's a WHOPPING .044" diameter "difference" betwixt it and a 308. That's 14 layers of Scotch Tape,which is "HUGE" and VERY "important" to Critters. Hint. LAUGHING! The 264 Kreed',simply arranges meaningful start/impact velocities,with rather modest recoil and such things tend to treat their Owners well. Impact velocities arrive at higher levels,which promote projectile performance,atmospherics are fended capably and recoil is rather sedate,in relative extrapolation of the improved performance. Hint. The 'Kreed's Supersonic Range greatly exceeds the 308 Win's,which is tough on Crying Karen Window Lickers. Hint. Physics ain't "subjective". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................. Who cares if the "supersonic range" of the 308 is less than the Gaymoor's? Karen, Such things represent velocity retention,which slips atmospherics better,arrives the scene with a higher percentage of velocity,which tends to bolster terminal affects,amongst a host of other constants overy your pointy head and crossed eyes...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? M40 contoured Mike Rock 11.25" 5R here,chambered M852. MacaMillion,Marty steel M4 bottom,yada,yada,yada. As good as 308's get. Hint. Keep "living" vicariously,despite it being your ONLY "move". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............... So how are terminal effects noticeably improved inside 400 yards? Why the 852 chamber? Dog I rescued in January

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