Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
100 Kchunts gawked,yet none have balls enough to talk. Hint.
I'm thinking I'll webcast. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..........
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
(Ps turns out ol frank glaser was on to something back in the day)
Try something NEW and only Post about what you have first hand experience with. Hint.
Pardon my shooting it all and then some. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
You have a VIVID Imagination,formulated by Google and such...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your poor poor(literally) heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Nope. Bought a proof prefit for my tikka and torqued her on. Getting the factory creed barrel off wasn't as hard as folks make it out to be, only needed a 3ft cheater. Spun on the new barrel, torqued, go/no-go, and off to the range.
It likes the horny 105bthp a lot, but the 103eldx are showing promise. I just wish hornady would make a 120 eldm....now that would be sweet.
Probably got around 300rds down the tube. Verified my dope last week in anticipation for black bear..
They look like this,because I bought a new rifle yesterday. Hint.
Though it were a "slow" day. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
My means? It's a gun, that isn't even 2k lol. I was just curious, although I have serious reservations for any 700 clone due to the dogschiet trigger design, but that's ok.......keep your secrets.
It seems you "forgot" about your Imaginary Pretend Ignore,you Manic Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit,what next...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............
JH,
You put the price tag on your Retardation...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Quit being STUPID out loud. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................
boytits,
Your thirst,is rather revealing...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
How many times a day,do you think about me? Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
SpanishDiddy,
I simply shoot it all and then some...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Your Homoerotic Fantasies,ain't "surprising". Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
P.O. Ackley wrote about using a 220 Swiffer (the quicker killer upper) to take feral burros. Said it was down right effective. Something about the "pulsero-de-cavernao" (sp.) effect - I think that's somewhere along the lines of Hammer of Thor.
I've never needed to read about the Swift and have had over a dozen of 'em. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Fair to middlin' read and I've a hardback copy in my office. "Choices" are easiest,when there are none. Hint................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
I laugh at all your fhuqking around,I simply end up with it all. Hint..............(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Ha! I get bored and end up chasing my tail more times than not. You were right on the Montana 22 creed hint though….having a blast with one and waiting on another barrel to have Shaen spin up another.
The 224 Speedmire is a great chambering,assuming 8" or better. Hint..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
You are a CLUELESS Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Thinking of putting a 24" 7 twist barrel on my Swift and running the 77 grain LRX. Nice long neck, 5 in the mag. Have to seat them deeply or get a Wyatt's 3" box. Build it to 7 lbs with scope.
Thinking of putting a 24" 7 twist barrel on my Swift and running the 77 grain LRX. Nice long neck, 5 in the mag. Have to seat them deeply or get a Wyatt's 3" box. Build it to 7 lbs with scope.
Twer it me, I'd have the barrel stamped 22 Creedmoor and not fret COAL.
Often thought of turning down the rim and cutting a new extracter groove to bring the Swift case back to the 6mm Lee Navy specs and getting a new bolt with a smaller bolt-face. Just not sure if the primer pockets would loosen quicker as less metal around them. Feeding in a hunting rifle (as opposed to a varmint rifle where feeding isn't as critical) would then be superb, and might not have to lengthen the box because of the way you stack the Swift in the magazine with its semi-rim. Hosea Sabia in Alaska used the Wilson Arrow version of the Swift a lot as well as those that Ron Spomer mentioned.
Your mind numbing DUMB Fhuqkery will "result" in zero wares...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you Cud Chewing Couch Lizards,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you Brokedick Kchunts can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
If it was the only rifle close by when bullwinkle wandered by and the right bullets were loaded in it- instead of some varmint whacking exploders- I would give it a try. Lots of target area on a big moose that would be effective if'n you could hit them...
Never underestimate your ability to overestimate your ability.
I can't make heads or tails of the thread but it's no matter, I enjoy trying to decipher Big Stick's mastery of language or rather hieroglyphics. It makes my day.
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
It's never not funnier than fhuqk,to grant CLUELESS Droolers opportunity,to quantify that they just "happen" to be Lying Pieces Of Fhuqking Schit to boot...the "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you gals,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you Brokedick Fhuqktards can "afford" to "contribute",although with stolen pics. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
For context,simply cite how many times a day you think about me,the duration(s) of same and what I'm wearing...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Don't "forget",that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
You certainly are,on top of being a Melting Snowflake and Whining Drooler....you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your poor poor(literally) heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
I'm happy to be whatever you NEED most...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Don't "forget" to start a Thread,should you ever venture Outdoors this year. Hint.
I've bullets in the tumbler getting mollied,bolting up a coupla new rifles,tying up more Chrome Riggin',will go shoot come-ups and make a coupla casts. The "usual". Hint.
Keep "living" vicariously. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Newest rifle had the fore base fastener too long and hitting barrel shank. A couple licks with a file and now it'll have a fair shake. Hint.
As to the Six-bits I'm driving VarGay,because I hate it as much as Winchesters.(grin) 73.0grs in W/W Virgins at 3.610"(mag constraints),which is a .100"++ leap to the lands. Hint.
The erector and reticle say 2700fps on the nose,which jives to the 650yd line. Hint..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
It's never not funnier than fhuqk,to grant CLUELESS Droolers opportunity,to quantify that they just "happen" to be Lying Pieces Of Fhuqking Schit to boot...the "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you gals,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you Brokedick Fhuqktards can "afford" to "contribute",although with stolen pics. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Brokedick describes you alright. FWIW I have had you off ignore for quite a while but don't let that interfere.Glad I live in your mind.
You are welcome to whatever Delusions,you most NEED to hear...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
A GOOD day for you,is one in which you don't schit your pants. You can't "do" anything other than greedily read my EVERY word and ogle The Splendid Pixels,while you "live" vicariously. Hint.
There's zero "need" for you quantify that besides being an Amazingly STUPID Fhuqk,that you just also "happen" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit,but it's never not funny! Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
I'm happy to be whatever you NEED most...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Don't "forget" to start a Thread,should you ever venture Outdoors this year. Hint.
I've bullets in the tumbler getting mollied,bolting up a coupla new rifles,tying up more Chrome Riggin',will go shoot come-ups and make a coupla casts. The "usual". Hint.
Keep "living" vicariously. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Sounds exciting but I was out emptying some 308 brass, found the sweet spot COAL for 168 gr. Matchkings and some Speer copies of such (3.010). Have to say the Sierra version is the better of the two. Then I ran the Catahoula for a mile or so, picked the Grandson up at his high school. Will be fishing in the morning and after that testing some Speer 165 gr. BTSP's out of both my 30-06 and my 308. Momentarily will be sizing brass to suit. Then dinner. But you go girl.
You are welcome to whatever Delusions,you most NEED to hear...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
A GOOD day for you,is one in which you don't schit your pants. You can't "do" anything other than greedily read my EVERY word and ogle The Splendid Pixels,while you "live" vicariously. Hint.
There's zero "need" for you quantify that besides being an Amazingly STUPID Fhuqk,that you just also "happen" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit,but it's never not funny! Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
OMG you really are sick and a liar. You own nothing I would ever desire not one thing. You are a miserable prick that spends his meager income on wares and does nothing else. Where are the Bayliner pics ?
The Twatly Trifecta is on fire...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Rickety has gotta steal her avatar pic,Elkkchunt has gotta steal pics to post and Agedelkkchunt is nervously hoping to not schit her pants. You gals are a "rugged" lot!. Hint.
The high pitched nasal whine in stereo,sure is fhuqking soothin' and undoubtedly due to your "life" of practice. Keep them WELL founded Insecurities flowin' ladies! Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
You are welcome to whatever Delusions,you most NEED to hear...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
A GOOD day for you,is one in which you don't schit your pants. You can't "do" anything other than greedily read my EVERY word and ogle The Splendid Pixels,while you "live" vicariously. Hint.
There's zero "need" for you quantify that besides being an Amazingly STUPID Fhuqk,that you just also "happen" to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit,but it's never not funny! Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
OMG you really are sick and a liar. You own nothing I would ever desire not one thing. You are a miserable prick that spends his meager income on wares and does nothing else. Where are the Bayliner pics ?
There's zero need for you to reiterate your Incredible STUPIDITY,nor the fact that you are Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
You be sure to keep "living" vicariously,while hoping to not schit your pants,despite it being your only "move". Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
TurdQueen,
You suck a mean ass...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
It weren't my intent to horn you up,but given your proclivities,it could go no other way...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Spomer seems a little behind the times in his “revelation” with the Swift. If you’re looking to push high BC .224 bullets, nowadays there’s far better case options than the Swift.
I’ve been using the .22GT lately, and so far, am very pleased. 22-250 case capacity in a far better case design. Works great out of AICS type magazines. In fact, is the best feeding cartridge I have ever tried from that style of magazine. Cartridge OAL is a non issue as well.
Out of my latest barrel, a 20” Bartlein, I’m getting 3080fps from 88gr ELDs pushed by a warm load of H4350. In the conditions I shoot, out to 600 yards, it only drifts .1 mil/100 yards in a full value 7mph wind. From 600 to 1000, it does the same with a 6mph wind. Those numbers compare very favorably with my 6.5 Creedmoor pushing 147gr ELDs, but the .22GT is significantly flatter, needing 1.5 mils less elevation at 1000 than the 147. For those that don’t know mils, that’s 54” flatter.
Recoil is really light, making it much easier to spot my own impacts. And precision wise, it seems eager to please, putting five shots in the .2s at 100 and about .5MOA at 800.
Have only killed a couple of critters with it so far, but it has been very effective, producing DRTs on a 200ish pound sow and a 150ish pound boar. Sow was at about 175 yards, and Boar was 300ish.
So, Spomer is finally catching up to many of us in the benefits of small caliber, light recoiling, high BC bullets pushed to good velocities, but he doesn’t seem to have figured out the case geometry thing. The easy answer to get what he’s looking for would be factory produced .22 Creedmoor rifles and ammo, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see that before long. It has pretty good traction in the shooting community already and with the same capacity as the .220 Swift, adds another 100fps or so to the numbers of the .22GT.
John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
He connects alotta dots by accident,which never ain't not funnier than fhuqk,as they are contrary to the impetus. Hint.
The 88 rates building a rifle around and I shoot them in 223,223AI,22PPC AFI,22BR,22-250,22-250AI and Speedmire. Hint.
It is plum fhuqking amazing,how very FEW have even a first inkling to the relationship of RPM,COAL and Throat Geometry. Hint.
Fortunately for them,Googling aloud,stealing pics and hoping to not schit their pants are free,so even they can "afford" to "contribute"...the "lucky" kchunts. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
But your shooting a bullet with a miserable BC of way under .400? At the massive weight of 150 grains! From a 308 no less. Don't know exactly how but it works for me also.
Spomer seems a little behind the times in his “revelation” with the Swift. If you’re looking to push high BC .224 bullets, nowadays there’s far better case options than the Swift.
I’ve been using the .22GT lately, and so far, am very pleased. 22-250 case capacity in a far better case design. Works great out of AICS type magazines. In fact, is the best feeding cartridge I have ever tried from that style of magazine. Cartridge OAL is a non issue as well.
Out of my latest barrel, a 20” Bartlein, I’m getting 3080fps from 88gr ELDs pushed by a warm load of H4350. In the conditions I shoot, out to 600 yards, it only drifts .1 mil/100 yards in a full value 7mph wind. From 600 to 1000, it does the same with a 6mph wind. Those numbers compare very favorably with my 6.5 Creedmoor pushing 147gr ELDs, but the .22GT is significantly flatter, needing 1.5 mils less elevation at 1000 than the 147. For those that don’t know mils, that’s 54” flatter.
Recoil is really light, making it much easier to spot my own impacts. And precision wise, it seems eager to please, putting five shots in the .2s at 100 and about .5MOA at 800.
Have only killed a couple of critters with it so far, but it has been very effective, producing DRTs on a 200ish pound sow and a 150ish pound boar. Sow was at about 175 yards, and Boar was 300ish.
So, Spomer is finally catching up to many of us in the benefits of small caliber, light recoiling, high BC bullets pushed to good velocities, but he doesn’t seem to have figured out the case geometry thing. The easy answer to get what he’s looking for would be factory produced .22 Creedmoor rifles and ammo, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see that before long. It has pretty good traction in the shooting community already and with the same capacity as the .220 Swift, adds another 100fps or so to the numbers of the .22GT.
John
It's very difficult to get an accurate range-finder reading on a prairie dog sized critter on flat ground when you are also on the same level, and it's about 400-500 yards away. Up to about 500 yards, a Swift shooting a 53 Vmax at around 3850 fps gives a greater first shot capability because of its flat trajectory. The light projectile reduces recoil and if there's negligible wind, then wind drift is not an issue. On hogs, a Swift using light projectiles will give you the same result as your .22GT. Those who used the Swift on big game like Ackley etc, were using light-weight projectiles that presumably were shot into the lungs and their explosiveness destroyed the lungs. It is questionable whether the heavy projectiles out of a large capacity .224 cartridge would have the same devastating effect. The design of the Swift does result in case stretching, but the design is very strong, a small diameter body surrounded by more metal from the barrel, a larger rim (.308 case size) for more metal around the primer pocket, the case taper and 21 degree shoulder gives good feeding and extraction. Past about 500 yards, the 75-88 grain projectiles in a fast twist are the way to go, but up to about 500 yards, I think the 53 grain Vmax is superior for the reasons stated.
Well there are actually two ways to use a .224 rifle. Fast and light bullets for what they were designed to do and the current day cult of long range paper/steel shooting and hunting light game with longer than usual bullets. I consider it crazy to want one rifle to do everything. Nuts actually.
You Drooling CLUELESS Google Gals are a fhuqking hoot,with your rollicking Perpetual Pretendathon...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bolted together in unison,you Amazingly STUPID Fhuqks,couldn't arrange a first fhuqking clue as you espouse Delusions. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
You Drooling CLUELESS Google Gals are a fhuqking hoot,with your rollicking Perpetual Pretendathon...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bolted together in unison,you Amazingly STUPID Fhuqks,couldn't arrange a first fhuqking clue as you espouse Delusions. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
I know I shouldn't say this, but it's kind of amusing seeing how someone who is so psychologically f'd up as you are, go into your predictable rant abusing anyone who has a different point of view to you. Of course, no one, with any common sense gets upset with the way you respond to people's posts, because it comes from a person who has significant mental issues. Now if you weren't so f'd up in the head, it might cause some concern what you say. But you are f'd up in the head...so what you say has no meaning. Hint.
I simply shoot it all and then some,as you Google aloud...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Rest assured,nobody can make out to be a bigger piece of Lying Fhuqking Schit,than you can,by simply doing you best. Hint.
Pardon Physics upsetting you so,though it can go no other way. Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
I simply shoot it all and then some,as you Google aloud...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Rest assured,nobody can make out to be a bigger piece of Lying Fhuqking Schit,than you can,by simply doing you best. Hint.
Pardon Physics upsetting you so,though it can go no other way. Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Come on Little Stick - one more time. Make me laugh again with your psychological issues. Perhaps show your absolute stupidity by posting a photo of yourself with a massive tree...thereby highlighting how short you are!!!!
You gotta steal your fhuqking avatar pic...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
SniffleKchunt,
I get it,that you are a Manic Brokedick Lying Piece Of CLUELESS Fhuqking Schit...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Pardon wares that simply exist,if only to your chargin,as you "live" vicariously. Hint.
Do NOT "forget",that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
You gotta steal your fhuqking avatar pic...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
SniffleKchunt,
I get it,that you are a Manic Brokedick Lying Piece Of CLUELESS Fhuqking Schit...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Pardon wares that simply exist,if only to your chargin,as you "live" vicariously. Hint.
Do NOT "forget",that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint.
Spomer seems a little behind the times in his “revelation” with the Swift. If you’re looking to push high BC .224 bullets, nowadays there’s far better case options than the Swift.
I’ve been using the .22GT lately, and so far, am very pleased. 22-250 case capacity in a far better case design. Works great out of AICS type magazines. In fact, is the best feeding cartridge I have ever tried from that style of magazine. Cartridge OAL is a non issue as well.
Out of my latest barrel, a 20” Bartlein, I’m getting 3080fps from 88gr ELDs pushed by a warm load of H4350. In the conditions I shoot, out to 600 yards, it only drifts .1 mil/100 yards in a full value 7mph wind. From 600 to 1000, it does the same with a 6mph wind. Those numbers compare very favorably with my 6.5 Creedmoor pushing 147gr ELDs, but the .22GT is significantly flatter, needing 1.5 mils less elevation at 1000 than the 147. For those that don’t know mils, that’s 54” flatter.
Recoil is really light, making it much easier to spot my own impacts. And precision wise, it seems eager to please, putting five shots in the .2s at 100 and about .5MOA at 800.
Have only killed a couple of critters with it so far, but it has been very effective, producing DRTs on a 200ish pound sow and a 150ish pound boar. Sow was at about 175 yards, and Boar was 300ish.
So, Spomer is finally catching up to many of us in the benefits of small caliber, light recoiling, high BC bullets pushed to good velocities, but he doesn’t seem to have figured out the case geometry thing. The easy answer to get what he’s looking for would be factory produced .22 Creedmoor rifles and ammo, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see that before long. It has pretty good traction in the shooting community already and with the same capacity as the .220 Swift, adds another 100fps or so to the numbers of the .22GT.
John
It's very difficult to get an accurate range-finder reading on a prairie dog sized critter on flat ground when you are also on the same level, and it's about 400-500 yards away. Up to about 500 yards, a Swift shooting a 53 Vmax at around 3850 fps gives a greater first shot capability because of its flat trajectory. The light projectile reduces recoil and if there's negligible wind, then wind drift is not an issue. On hogs, a Swift using light projectiles will give you the same result as your .22GT. Those who used the Swift on big game like Ackley etc, were using light-weight projectiles that presumably were shot into the lungs and their explosiveness destroyed the lungs. It is questionable whether the heavy projectiles out of a large capacity .224 cartridge would have the same devastating effect. The design of the Swift does result in case stretching, but the design is very strong, a small diameter body surrounded by more metal from the barrel, a larger rim (.308 case size) for more metal around the primer pocket, the case taper and 21 degree shoulder gives good feeding and extraction. Past about 500 yards, the 75-88 grain projectiles in a fast twist are the way to go, but up to about 500 yards, I think the 53 grain Vmax is superior for the reasons stated.
Did you watch Spomer’s video?
John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
Spomer seems a little behind the times in his “revelation” with the Swift. If you’re looking to push high BC .224 bullets, nowadays there’s far better case options than the Swift.
I’ve been using the .22GT lately, and so far, am very pleased. 22-250 case capacity in a far better case design. Works great out of AICS type magazines. In fact, is the best feeding cartridge I have ever tried from that style of magazine. Cartridge OAL is a non issue as well.
Out of my latest barrel, a 20” Bartlein, I’m getting 3080fps from 88gr ELDs pushed by a warm load of H4350. In the conditions I shoot, out to 600 yards, it only drifts .1 mil/100 yards in a full value 7mph wind. From 600 to 1000, it does the same with a 6mph wind. Those numbers compare very favorably with my 6.5 Creedmoor pushing 147gr ELDs, but the .22GT is significantly flatter, needing 1.5 mils less elevation at 1000 than the 147. For those that don’t know mils, that’s 54” flatter.
Recoil is really light, making it much easier to spot my own impacts. And precision wise, it seems eager to please, putting five shots in the .2s at 100 and about .5MOA at 800.
Have only killed a couple of critters with it so far, but it has been very effective, producing DRTs on a 200ish pound sow and a 150ish pound boar. Sow was at about 175 yards, and Boar was 300ish.
So, Spomer is finally catching up to many of us in the benefits of small caliber, light recoiling, high BC bullets pushed to good velocities, but he doesn’t seem to have figured out the case geometry thing. The easy answer to get what he’s looking for would be factory produced .22 Creedmoor rifles and ammo, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see that before long. It has pretty good traction in the shooting community already and with the same capacity as the .220 Swift, adds another 100fps or so to the numbers of the .22GT.
John
It's very difficult to get an accurate range-finder reading on a prairie dog sized critter on flat ground when you are also on the same level, and it's about 400-500 yards away. Up to about 500 yards, a Swift shooting a 53 Vmax at around 3850 fps gives a greater first shot capability because of its flat trajectory. The light projectile reduces recoil and if there's negligible wind, then wind drift is not an issue. On hogs, a Swift using light projectiles will give you the same result as your .22GT. Those who used the Swift on big game like Ackley etc, were using light-weight projectiles that presumably were shot into the lungs and their explosiveness destroyed the lungs. It is questionable whether the heavy projectiles out of a large capacity .224 cartridge would have the same devastating effect. The design of the Swift does result in case stretching, but the design is very strong, a small diameter body surrounded by more metal from the barrel, a larger rim (.308 case size) for more metal around the primer pocket, the case taper and 21 degree shoulder gives good feeding and extraction. Past about 500 yards, the 75-88 grain projectiles in a fast twist are the way to go, but up to about 500 yards, I think the 53 grain Vmax is superior for the reasons stated.
Did you watch Spomer’s video?
John
Yes, what particular point do you take issue with?
I simply shoot it all and then some,as you Google aloud...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Rest assured,nobody can make out to be a bigger piece of Lying Fhuqking Schit,than you can,by simply doing you best. Hint.
Pardon Physics upsetting you so,though it can go no other way. Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Chunk all those in the trash and pass the 180 round nose Core-Lokt's
It's your Imagination,simply Pretend aloud with it...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Just checked Mail and it looks promising. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
agedelkkchunt,
Schit your pants before Noon,didn'tcha'...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Perhaps tomorrow,you Amazingly STUPID Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit? Hint.
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you and your diaper can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Your Imagination and Pretend are consuming you...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Not that your Chicken Little Avatar,don't suit you fhuqking PERFECTLY! Hint.
Bless your poor poor(literally) heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Feel free to "justify" the fact,that you are a Brokedick picture stealing fhuqk...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
NOTHING is fhuqking funnier,than a Brokedick Texan TRYING to "talk" rifles,with her stolen picture...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Saw Dust is plum handy,for the delivery of wares which actually fhuqking exist. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Spomer seems a little behind the times in his “revelation” with the Swift. If you’re looking to push high BC .224 bullets, nowadays there’s far better case options than the Swift.
I’ve been using the .22GT lately, and so far, am very pleased. 22-250 case capacity in a far better case design. Works great out of AICS type magazines. In fact, is the best feeding cartridge I have ever tried from that style of magazine. Cartridge OAL is a non issue as well.
Out of my latest barrel, a 20” Bartlein, I’m getting 3080fps from 88gr ELDs pushed by a warm load of H4350. In the conditions I shoot, out to 600 yards, it only drifts .1 mil/100 yards in a full value 7mph wind. From 600 to 1000, it does the same with a 6mph wind. Those numbers compare very favorably with my 6.5 Creedmoor pushing 147gr ELDs, but the .22GT is significantly flatter, needing 1.5 mils less elevation at 1000 than the 147. For those that don’t know mils, that’s 54” flatter.
Recoil is really light, making it much easier to spot my own impacts. And precision wise, it seems eager to please, putting five shots in the .2s at 100 and about .5MOA at 800.
Have only killed a couple of critters with it so far, but it has been very effective, producing DRTs on a 200ish pound sow and a 150ish pound boar. Sow was at about 175 yards, and Boar was 300ish.
So, Spomer is finally catching up to many of us in the benefits of small caliber, light recoiling, high BC bullets pushed to good velocities, but he doesn’t seem to have figured out the case geometry thing. The easy answer to get what he’s looking for would be factory produced .22 Creedmoor rifles and ammo, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see that before long. It has pretty good traction in the shooting community already and with the same capacity as the .220 Swift, adds another 100fps or so to the numbers of the .22GT.
John
It's very difficult to get an accurate range-finder reading on a prairie dog sized critter on flat ground when you are also on the same level, and it's about 400-500 yards away. Up to about 500 yards, a Swift shooting a 53 Vmax at around 3850 fps gives a greater first shot capability because of its flat trajectory. The light projectile reduces recoil and if there's negligible wind, then wind drift is not an issue. On hogs, a Swift using light projectiles will give you the same result as your .22GT. Those who used the Swift on big game like Ackley etc, were using light-weight projectiles that presumably were shot into the lungs and their explosiveness destroyed the lungs. It is questionable whether the heavy projectiles out of a large capacity .224 cartridge would have the same devastating effect. The design of the Swift does result in case stretching, but the design is very strong, a small diameter body surrounded by more metal from the barrel, a larger rim (.308 case size) for more metal around the primer pocket, the case taper and 21 degree shoulder gives good feeding and extraction. Past about 500 yards, the 75-88 grain projectiles in a fast twist are the way to go, but up to about 500 yards, I think the 53 grain Vmax is superior for the reasons stated.
Did you watch Spomer’s video?
John
Yes, what particular point do you take issue with?
Spomer’s idea of using longer, high BC bullets in the Swift would be less than ideal in the short actions it is chambered for. You could achieve the exact same thing by using the .22Creedmoor, which is already fairly well established, and is a much better designed case, which works perfectly in a short action, even with the long, high BC bullets.
He is right in that the high BC bullets will be much better in the wind than the lightweights with their ping pong ball BCs. Additionally, he mentioned the rotational speed of the light bullets at a whopping 250,000 rpm or more. If rotational speed helps in terminal ballistics, then the high BC bullets win there too, due to the fast twist rates required to stabilize them. The high BC .224 bullets are typically north of 300,000 RPM.
There is no question of the effectiveness of the 77gr Sierra TMK or 88gr ELDs on game. Have a look at this thread on Rokslide. You have to sort through the posts from those that have actually done it vs those that pontificate on why it won’t work without actually having done it, but if you do that, there’s a lot of good information there.
Ron was sorta headed the right direction in the last part of the video, but there are MUCH better candidates than the .220 Swift case to accomplish those goals.
John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
What were the "odds" of you riding the pine on the sidelines,rattlin' pom-pom's and building banners...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Spomer seems a little behind the times in his “revelation” with the Swift. If you’re looking to push high BC .224 bullets, nowadays there’s far better case options than the Swift.
I’ve been using the .22GT lately, and so far, am very pleased. 22-250 case capacity in a far better case design. Works great out of AICS type magazines. In fact, is the best feeding cartridge I have ever tried from that style of magazine. Cartridge OAL is a non issue as well.
Out of my latest barrel, a 20” Bartlein, I’m getting 3080fps from 88gr ELDs pushed by a warm load of H4350. In the conditions I shoot, out to 600 yards, it only drifts .1 mil/100 yards in a full value 7mph wind. From 600 to 1000, it does the same with a 6mph wind. Those numbers compare very favorably with my 6.5 Creedmoor pushing 147gr ELDs, but the .22GT is significantly flatter, needing 1.5 mils less elevation at 1000 than the 147. For those that don’t know mils, that’s 54” flatter.
Recoil is really light, making it much easier to spot my own impacts. And precision wise, it seems eager to please, putting five shots in the .2s at 100 and about .5MOA at 800.
Have only killed a couple of critters with it so far, but it has been very effective, producing DRTs on a 200ish pound sow and a 150ish pound boar. Sow was at about 175 yards, and Boar was 300ish.
So, Spomer is finally catching up to many of us in the benefits of small caliber, light recoiling, high BC bullets pushed to good velocities, but he doesn’t seem to have figured out the case geometry thing. The easy answer to get what he’s looking for would be factory produced .22 Creedmoor rifles and ammo, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see that before long. It has pretty good traction in the shooting community already and with the same capacity as the .220 Swift, adds another 100fps or so to the numbers of the .22GT.
John
It's very difficult to get an accurate range-finder reading on a prairie dog sized critter on flat ground when you are also on the same level, and it's about 400-500 yards away. Up to about 500 yards, a Swift shooting a 53 Vmax at around 3850 fps gives a greater first shot capability because of its flat trajectory. The light projectile reduces recoil and if there's negligible wind, then wind drift is not an issue. On hogs, a Swift using light projectiles will give you the same result as your .22GT. Those who used the Swift on big game like Ackley etc, were using light-weight projectiles that presumably were shot into the lungs and their explosiveness destroyed the lungs. It is questionable whether the heavy projectiles out of a large capacity .224 cartridge would have the same devastating effect. The design of the Swift does result in case stretching, but the design is very strong, a small diameter body surrounded by more metal from the barrel, a larger rim (.308 case size) for more metal around the primer pocket, the case taper and 21 degree shoulder gives good feeding and extraction. Past about 500 yards, the 75-88 grain projectiles in a fast twist are the way to go, but up to about 500 yards, I think the 53 grain Vmax is superior for the reasons stated.
Did you watch Spomer’s video?
John
Yes, what particular point do you take issue with?
Spomer’s idea of using longer, high BC bullets in the Swift would be less than ideal in the short actions it is chambered for. You could achieve the exact same thing by using the .22Creedmoor, which is already fairly well established, and is a much better designed case, which works perfectly in a short action, even with the long, high BC bullets.
He is right in that the high BC bullets will be much better in the wind than the lightweights with their ping pong ball BCs. Additionally, he mentioned the rotational speed of the light bullets at a whopping 250,000 rpm or more. If rotational speed helps in terminal ballistics, then the high BC bullets win there too, due to the fast twist rates required to stabilize them. The high BC .224 bullets are typically north of 300,000 RPM.
There is no question of the effectiveness of the 77gr Sierra TMK or 88gr ELDs on game. Have a look at this thread on Rokslide. You have to sort through the posts from those that have actually done it vs those that pontificate on why it won’t work without actually having done it, but if you do that, there’s a lot of good information there.
Ron was sorta headed the right direction in the last part of the video, but there are MUCH better candidates than the .220 Swift case to accomplish those goals.
John
I watched his video a second time. He is emphasizing how good the Swift is as a big game killer. He goes through the historical creditable accounts of how outstanding the Swift was when using light projectiles by such people as Glaser, Ackley, Womack on big game. Then he moves on to more speculation without citing authority, of using the Swift with 80 grain high bc bullets on game. He should have mentioned that many short actions would require deep seating of the 80 grain projectiles, however, Remington 700's with an extended box or Winchester Model 70 short actions would work fine with them. However, even though the long heavier high bc bullets in the Creedmore have been used a lot by now quite successfully, it doesn't seem as though the reports are concluding that the terminal performance is better than all other cartridges. This is in contrast to the reports of old that did say the use of the light bullets in the Swift was better than any other cartridge. Also, it seems that the terminal performance which he suggests might be attributed to RPM, is more attributable to centrifugal force opening up the projectiles rather than RPM per se. If using very long projectiles, the Creedmoor or your GT are better in most short actions which he should have mentioned, unless the video is pre-Creedmoor. From all this, together with what I wrote about using the 53 Vmax on varmints up to around 500 yards, the Swift using lighter projectiles is still excellent on varmints to 500 yards and from historical accounts from creditable people who killed a lot of game at the time, also excellent on bigger game with the correct lighter projectiles.
All good. Company arrives this evening,to help me burn up a month of Spring Fling vacation. Hint.
I'm sorting through new wares and old,getting set up and am ahead of the curve,as per usual. This is looking to be a Fling for the ages,as fishing has been EPIC. Hint.
I've not even gawked for a Bear,because I know I'd see some.(grin) The boys will have a different perspective and it'll be on. Pretty rough. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Ain't it a fhuqking hoot,that you go to bed a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit,then wake up a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit and then feel compelled to steal pictures to boot...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Pardon wares that exist,as you Google aloud. Hint.
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.......................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
All good. Company arrives this evening,to help me burn up a month of Spring Fling vacation. Hint.
I'm sorting through new wares and old,getting set up and am ahead of the curve,as per usual. This is looking to be a Fling for the ages,as fishing has been EPIC. Hint.
I've not even gawked for a Bear,because I know I'd see some.(grin) The boys will have a different perspective and it'll be on. Pretty rough. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
Sounds like you have it covered old mate, have a good one.
The Spring Fling makes for LONG days and it's a grind,but the laughs never stop. By the end,folks will be wore right the fhuqk out and Splendors will have been amassed. There will be broken rods,rusted rifles,fresh scratches on boats and stinking waders. Hint.
R&D never stops. Hint.(grin)
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Got a gaggle of Pro batteries charging for Canon DSLR's,video cameras are ready and I cleaned a few sensors. Will be nice to have a Wingman,to arrange Splendid Pixels and to be able to fully control light on the fly. Hint.
Victims don't always wanna hold still. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
You can't even depress a shutter by yourself...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Though you can RELIABLY arrange,being a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit. Hint.
No fences here. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
When it is over do us a favour and post some pictures...I am bored and working on my house.
Stick,
I hope you don't mind if I saved one of your steelhead pics to send to my fishing partner that moved to Florida at the behest of his wife. Disney World is a piss poor substitute for good steelhead fishing.
Those are some HILARIOUSLY schitty pics...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Who's the Retard with her mouth open,catching flies? She can almost make a clean cut on a 6" "log". Almost. Hint.
No fhuqking "wonder",why you are literally forced to be a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit and gotta "live" vicariously. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Vern,
20#+ Chromer Hens,don't grow on trees...though they do grow amongst 'em Hint................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Ok, I'll admit I ignore Big Stick's language cuz I don't even know what he's talking about most of the time. And I honestly came in here expecting a big of a flame thread from the .308 thread.
But to stick to the original topic (which I think is over yonder hill by a few hundred miles now), it seems that the greatest damage to the .220 Swift's reputation was done by some ignoramus that tried to use it with a 48 grain varmint bullet and actually expected it to penetrate the full length of a warthog. I'd like to think we know a little more about bullet design than that now, but I'm not actually sure if the average deer hunter does actually know more about bullet design if he just buys whatever shoots in his gun (.30-30, .30-06, or whatever other deer cartridge) and most of them perform because they're designed for good results on whitetails.
“To give anything less than the best is to sacrifice the gift.” -Steve Prefontaine
Let's see, I'm gonna spend $5k, or $10K or more to do hunt for an animal such as an elk, moose, brown bear, or traipse up and down mountains for a week, and possibly shoot out to 500 yds or so, and my choice of weapons is a rifle chambered for the 220 swift.....
If only as per always,simply cite any/all words I've used,which are "too big" or "too Technical" for you to "understand" and I'll simply use lesser versions,to suit the HILARITY of those needs. Hint.
The reality of the Swift,is that from inception,it was/is an exceptionally fhuqking schitty case design. Bullets have ALWAYS mattered more than headstmps and ALWAYS will. Read that agin. Now one more time. Hint.
A 18" 223 Krunchenticker will blow the doors offa' 14" RPM 26" barreled Swift and that with Factory Fodder. Joe Average is obviously dumber than fhuqk,as you obliviously quantify and that never ain't not funnier than fhuqk! Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Dubya,
I've only (1) Hornet with 100+ Brownies under it's bullet and more than a few Mooseses too. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
All good. Company arrives this evening,to help me burn up a month of Spring Fling vacation. Hint.
I'm sorting through new wares and old,getting set up and am ahead of the curve,as per usual. This is looking to be a Fling for the ages,as fishing has been EPIC. Hint.
I've not even gawked for a Bear,because I know I'd see some.(grin) The boys will have a different perspective and it'll be on. Pretty rough. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
I see you are a fuqqing democrat/leftist. Explains the lunacy.
I shoulda' clicked my heels,mainly because I can and am well equipped for the job. Hell...Texans gotta steal my pics too,as they "live" vicariously. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Rickety,
I'm HAPPY to be whatever you NEED most...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Funnier than fhuqk,how it's "trendy" in Texas to steal pics! Not that you could provide your own,even as an avatar! Hint.
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even you can "afford" to "contribute",albeit only with stolen pictures. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
no such bs as "stealing" pics or memes on the internet you miserable twat
you post a photo on a public site then you willingly "shared" the photo and it becomes public property for all internet users to do with as they please
"The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants".
You've came crashing out of the closet soooooo many fhuqking times,that your proclamation only "surprise" you...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Just how many times a day do you think about me and what are the average durations of same,betwixt reading my EVERY word,gawking EVERY Splendid Pixel and stealing same? Hint.
As an aside,what do yo "do" for a "living",which mandates your being a Thieving Piece Of CLUELESS Fhuqking Schit? Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
SwampTard,
You be SURE to "justify" your nothingness,in the manner which suits you best...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
I'm a little bit whole bunch GOOD with a Pistole,but never much cared for Wheelguns and especially S/A's. Hint.
Just sayin'.
Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Hell...I even "get by" left handed,but don't tease me about the mad skillset,as you Google aloud. Hint.
Pardon that not being very "fair" to you and your ilk. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
_________________________________________________________________________ “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
I need to quit buying handguns/ammo and start saving up for a good bolt action rifle threaded at 16-18".
One that has spoiled me recently. ( IIRC I have taken 25 of the last 30 critters I've dispatched with the Sig)
Sig Cross 308 Winchester, Bering Optics Super-Yoter, Dead Air Nomad 30 Suppressor.
I wanted a rifle chambered in 308 Win., could knock around, had a 16" threaded barrel, Pic Rail, Capable of M-Lok attachments, and was reasonably accurate.
The Sig fills that bill and I particularly enjoy the two-stage trigger on this.
It luv's the Factory Norma Soft Points and I managed to score 20 boxes @ +/- $13 per box at Palmetto State Armory
All good. Company arrives this evening,to help me burn up a month of Spring Fling vacation. Hint.
I'm sorting through new wares and old,getting set up and am ahead of the curve,as per usual. This is looking to be a Fling for the ages,as fishing has been EPIC. Hint.
I've not even gawked for a Bear,because I know I'd see some.(grin) The boys will have a different perspective and it'll be on. Pretty rough. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...................
I see you are a fuqqing democrat/leftist. Explains the lunacy.
Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association
Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell
Sig Cross 308 Winchester, Bering Optics Super-Yoter, Dead Air Nomad 30 Suppressor.
I wanted a rifle chambered in 308 Win., could knock around, had a 16" threaded barrel, Pic Rail, Capable of M-Lok attachments, and was reasonably accurate.
That summbitch looks like you might need to complete TPS reports prior to each shot.
I can walk on water.......................but I do stagger a bit on alcohol.
Sig Cross 308 Winchester, Bering Optics Super-Yoter, Dead Air Nomad 30 Suppressor.
I wanted a rifle chambered in 308 Win., could knock around, had a 16" threaded barrel, Pic Rail, Capable of M-Lok attachments, and was reasonably accurate.
That summbitch looks like you might need to complete TPS reports prior to each shot.
I could endeavor to elucidate in regards to said rifle, but at this point, all things considered, that would be Totally Pointless Stuff!
I'm thinking more of a standard looking bolt action rifle and now that I think about it the last AR-15 I bought might be threaded? It must be because I have an adapter to get the threads bred up.
Mathman, they didn't have regular old red can Old Milwaukee otherwise I'd have went that route, maybe....lol
I'm thinking more of a standard looking bolt action rifle and now that I think about it the last AR-15 I bought might be threaded? It must be because I have an adapter to get the threads bred up.
10/4
Here are four different possibilities.
Top to Bottom
Kimber Hunter, 280 AI, barrel chopped to 17" and threaded. (Ya, I know, I don't usually play Kimber Roulette, but I got lucky, it's a shooter suppressed, and why an AI with a 17" Barrel? Cause the price was right!)
Bergara B-14 Ridge, 6.5 MannBunn @18", threaded
CZ 527, 6.5 Grendel, Set Trigger, 16", threaded
Ruger American, 300 AAC Blackout, 16", threaded.
I acquired these to use suppressed. Add 7" to a 16" to 18" barrel and it works for the type of stuff I do.
Any number of other possibilites. Chop barrel, thread, cerrakote, paint synthetic stock.
Best,
GWB
PS: IIRC, Ringman had new Steyr THB's for $1K with choice of 16", 18" or 20" barrels for $1K. The Steyr's I/ve shot have all been Sub-MOA @ 100 yds.
G, do you shoot any supersonic loads out of the BO? What kind of ballistics do you get?
Yes,
my go to load for the 300 B/O is.....
All my reading indicated that the Barnes 110 Tac-Tx was the go to bullet for super-sonic loads in the B/O.
6.5 Grendle left, 300 B/0 right
It can be loaded hotter, but I don't try to achieve max velocity in a cartridge such as this. It is my understanding that the Tac-tx will open up at sub 2K fps velocities.
I've got lazy in my dotage and did not chrono the load. Velocity should be +/- 2,300 fps.