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Semi auto in 17 HMR is only one......Savage A17. 17 HMR needs a delayed opening action. Ask Ruger!


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Originally Posted by Fotis
Semi auto in 17 HMR is only one......Savage A17. 17 HMR needs a delayed opening action. Ask Ruger!

Did Ruger ever catalog a 10/22 Magnum in 17 HMR?

Shortly after the 17 HMR was introduced my 'smith rebarreled a half-dozen or so 10/22 Magnums. He had some success and some failure, with the failures mostly coming in the form of blown heads that resulted in the magazine being blown out, the stock split, and the extractors disappearing to nobody knows where. He made one for me, but it made me uncomfortable to shoot, I don't like "Kabooms", so I converted it back into its original configuration and sold it when 10/22 Magnums had been discontinued and were in high demand.

10/22s converted to 17HM2 frequently experience the same sort of "Kaboom" outcomes for the same reason, trying to do something that the action wasn't designed to handle.

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Why did savage figure this out with the delay blowback and Ruger and Remington couldn’t?

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Originally Posted by Buck720
Why did savage figure this out with the delay blowback and Ruger and Remington couldn’t?

Savage is desperate to find a market niche where they can be successful and have less competition. They sell a lot of AXIS rifles, but that market niche is crowded with multiple different options, many of them better in one way or another than the Savage products.

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I was working at a gun shop when the recall came out. One of our customers had his 17HMR blow up on the third shot. Remington offered credit toward a different gun, a low cash offer or rebarrel to 22 mag. He did the rebarrel and IIRC, we sent the gun to a Remington gunsmith to do the rebarrel. He had no issues with it after that.

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Originally Posted by Buck720
Why did savage figure this out with the delay blowback and Ruger and Remington couldn’t?

Savage designed a new action that used delayed blowback BECAUSE OF the issues with regular blowback that arose with Remington's straight blowback design. On paper the design can work. In practice the window of safety with a straight blowback exists, but is too narrow to deal with variations in ammo and parts tolerences.

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Originally Posted by Fotis
Semi auto in 17 HMR is only one......Savage A17. 17 HMR needs a delayed opening action. Ask Ruger!

Exactly^^^^^


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Originally Posted by natman
Originally Posted by Buck720
Why did savage figure this out with the delay blowback and Ruger and Remington couldn’t?

Savage designed a new action that used delayed blowback BECAUSE OF the issues with regular blowback that arose with Remington's straight blowback design. On paper the design can work. In practice the window of safety with a straight blowback exists, but is too narrow to deal with variations in ammo and parts tolerences.

"New"? Try about 10 years ago. Here's a good video on the A17:



I've ran thousands of rounds through mine:
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Excellent rifles. I would not even consider a 10-22 or a 597 because of the safety concerns that were known about quite a long time ago.


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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A gun like the OP’s cousin has sounds like an excellent candidate for one of those urban gun “buyback” programs.


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