He certainly know more than I do about the AR rifle!
You ain't the only one, Sam. That was educational. Things seem much simpler than they really are, I guess, when it's all working right. Some of that stuff is or was self evident, but a good deal of it was things I never thought about. Glad to have seen it.
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
He said that Black Rain gas key staking looked good. It looked horrible. Compare the BR staking to the SOL staking, or any BCM, DD or Colt staking. That BR gas key may as well as had no staking at all. Otherwise, it was a good comprehensive assessment.
The guy makes a living working on ARs and teaching it. Many of his gauges are self built to test all those obscure dimensions.
Almost every video, he repeats that the videos are not meant to review a brand, or judge it. They are for teaching purposes. So folks can learn. He covers up branding during comparison videos, avoids endorsing anybody.
Certainly there are several reasons for this, but one is that nobody makes perfect parts. Everything. Not even the Gucci guys.
Even so, Black Rain is not on the desired list. Maybe they should focus more on the part and less on the Logo!
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
There is a local gun shop here that really pimps Black Rain. I haven't bothered to look at them because I am not in the market for a $3000 AR15. Not when a Colt, FN, or BCM rings up for less than half that amount.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
There is a local gun shop here that really pimps Black Rain. I haven't bothered to look at them because I am not in the market for a $3000 AR15. Not when a Colt, FN, or BCM rings up for less than half that amount.
They are one of the companies breaking bolts. That's how they got on my list.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Seems a bit suspect to me. Way too many issues for that to pass even the most lax QC. For all I know it's a hit job on the brand... Not impressed with all the logo stuff but to each their own. Good demonstration of knowledge though, I would like to know if his inspection protocol is published.
There is a local gun shop here that really pimps Black Rain. I haven't bothered to look at them because I am not in the market for a $3000 AR15. Not when a Colt, FN, or BCM rings up for less than half that amount.
Is Black Rain over in the Joplin area?
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
Seems a bit suspect to me. Way too many issues for that to pass even the most lax QC. For all I know it's a hit job on the brand... Not impressed with all the logo stuff but to each their own. Good demonstration of knowledge though, I would like to know if his inspection protocol is published.
Chad calls out anything and everything that's wrong - ZFG on what brand it is.
There is a local gun shop here that really pimps Black Rain. I haven't bothered to look at them because I am not in the market for a $3000 AR15. Not when a Colt, FN, or BCM rings up for less than half that amount.
Is Black Rain over in the Joplin area?
Somewhere in Missouri if I remember right. I think when they first hit the market the shop owner I'm speaking of met them at a show or something and ended up taking a tour of their facility/shop. He really bought into their hype.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
He needs a gauge to check the distance from the bolt face to the breach face. If that distance is excessive, you have a case head dangling out the back of the chamber, unsupported, and can cause a case blow-out. That won't be picked up by a head space gauge.
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Run it up, until you blow it up, then back it down a bit.
Sinister, I'm not saying he is misrepresenting his findings. Not at all as he displays sound QC acumen. I am referring to 1-2 nodes up before he received the rifle. I bet the manufacturer would like to know that there is a complaint of this magnitude floating around and will address the findings.
Seems a bit suspect to me. Way too many issues for that to pass even the most lax QC. For all I know it's a hit job on the brand... Not impressed with all the logo stuff but to each their own. Good demonstration of knowledge though, I would like to know if his inspection protocol is published.
This guy doesn't do "hit pieces".
Feel free to sign up for his course.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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At no point did I accuse him of doing a hit piece. Checked his site... no manual for sale unfortunately. Ironically, traveling to Maryland is more of a deterrent to me than his course fee.
I haven’t watched the video yet, but will. I have a Spec 15 that I bought a few years ago. The trigger was not very good, so I put a LaRue in it. Could not get good groups after much working with reloads. I called BRO and spoke to the CEO about the accuracy problem. He said the rifle was made to mil spec and should shoot 1 1/2” groups to be within spec. So, I replaced the barrel. All is good now, and many rounds have been through it. I like it now.
He needs a gauge to check the distance from the bolt face to the breach face. If that distance is excessive, you have a case head dangling out the back of the chamber, unsupported, and can cause a case blow-out. That won't be picked up by a head space gauge.
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Is one readily available, or is it something you would have to make? Just never occurred to me that there was a gauge for that. I just figured if the bolt face depth was good and it head spaced, you wouldn’t have that particular issue? My redneck ‘gauge’ for that has always been to pay attention to spent cases, closely….at least for chamber/throat issues the other stuff didn’t catch.
You could make shims that fit on the face of the bolt around it's perimeter. Just use some grease to hold them on or have tabs that extend into the case head recess to hold them on.
That's not how I do it, though. But I don't have the tooling to make stuff like that. I made a post on this not too long ago. Here it is:
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You can get a feel for how much overrun the gun has by lubing up an empty, over sized (headspace-wise) case and slamming the bolt on it until it chambers and then a couple more times. Take another oversized case and start sizing it down until it just chambers with light finger pressure on the bolt handle. The difference in headspace length between these 2 cases is the approx magnitude of your overrun problem.
Good method, I’d think. Fired brass inspections/comparisons/gauging have just always been my crutch there, based on what I was taught. Like you, I don’t have machinery or even access to anywhere near the shop setup I had when I was into such things as part of an old job. Using your methods madness, one could maybe keep a set of precisely sized/measured cases labeled for min/max and some in between, for test fitting in a chamber like you do.
