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Good write up on a neat rifle. Might add that they minimize the bolt tilt that occurs in rifles with angled sear faces commonly used with bolt actions. Mostly BR type technology.

Very sharp rifle DF.

I was just having fun and didn’t mean for it to be taken otherwise, sorry. 👍🏼

I know you were illustrating the “bumps” and that picture was a good example.

All in fun. The Fire way.

Like Benjamin Disraeli was famous for saying, “I never complain, I never explain”. He was Jewish PM of Great Britain in the mid 1800’s.

Henry Ford II, caught coming out of a hotel, a young woman not his wife on his arm. Reporter ask him to explain. Mr. Ford replied with that famous quote. They got in their waiting car and drove off.

So you don’t have to say you’re sorry. Never complain, never explain.

Ha!

DF

I own one M70 in 7x57, re-bedded, trigger tweaked, Tubb firing pin and spring, getting groups about 2x larger than that moa $400 Walmart Rem 770, unmodified.

It ain't the model, apparently !

A South Carolina BACO 30-06 Super Grade that averages about a half inch for three shots C2C with its preferred load.

In the light-heavy weight division, a SC 375 H&H Alaskan that will do 1/2 to 3/4 inch with its favorite 270TSX load.

Neither has had anything done but bedded and had the trigger adjusted down.

I need to drag them out and shoot them more, but where's the fun in that?

Got a South Carolina BACO stainless 2012 in 243 and a Classic New Haven stainless 1993 (5 digit) in a 308...both were bought new in the box....both will shoot 1/2" with handloads. Trigger pull set at 2.8 lb on the 243 and 2.3 lb on the 308. Really can't tell any difference other than the 243 does not kick as hard.

It’s nice when you have different eras of model 70’s that shoot and function well. Sounds like you need a great shooting pre 64 now, so you will have ultimate unbiased feelings towards them. I’ve had some sweet shooting BACOs as well, but couldn’t quite warm up to them.

People often sniff at push feed M-70’s. IME, they shoot pretty well, are generally good guns.

Aesthetically they may be a bit behind pre-64’s and classics, but deserve more credit than they often get.

Bud had an old PF converted to .416 Rem. It was a gift with sentimental value. He was able to hit a cape buff 4 times before it could get out of sight, all potentially fatal hits. Dead buff walking.

So I guess a PF can cycle pretty fast.

DF

Agreed DF.. They’re good rifles and I think the USRAC XTRs might’ve been better built than the later parts in a box Classics.

Yeah, those are nice.

DF

I really have no idea. I own three pre-64's in 270 Win, 358 Win and most recently 6.5x55, all custom wood stocked rifles, and two NH post 64's in 375 H&H and 416 Rem. In general I head to Barnes and load at about their max data at .050" - .070" with the bullet weight I desire. I have never had much trouble getting in and around 1", the 416 1 1/2". Short of the 375 and 6.5 they have killed game just fine here and in Africa. The 375 has chased brown bear unsuccessfully and will do so again next spring. The annual hog hunt next year will be the first for the 6.5 though the PPU factory load seems to be a 1 1/2" shooter so it will likely see service.

I have a PF that shoots really well. Wayne York took it from .243 to 35 Remington by removing the barrel and installing a rebored 223 FW barrel. I'm satisfied with it and look forward to killing deer with it this year.

Most accurate current Winchester is a recent win m70 super-grade that groups amazing 2.5" groups on a good day, 3.5-4" is the norm though. Gotta love those accurate Winchesters. Went through two scopes to try and iron out the issues. Scopes were fine, mounts secured/tight, action screws all good. Tried several types of ammunition. From basic budget to premium. Nothing shot very well with the best groups going to the federal power shok 180gr sp. All this was done on a proper rest with a couple mins between each shot for 5 shot groups then let the gun cool for 10-15 mins before trying other loads.

Joking aside, I am having a warranty center look into it, so I'll see what happens.

Not sure what's happening at Winchester quality control line....I also had a new super grade made in Portugal get bore scoped and it had micro pits half way down the barrel for about 6-8 inches. Not impressed with my last two rifles compared to my Alaskan I foolishly sold.

You are talking about a Browning, for all intents and purposes. However, there are some that believe they are the best rendition yet. Probably Remington 700 shooters, truth be known.

I’ve seen some really poor shooting BACOs. Some copper fouled horribly. Rather than monkey around with them, send them back to Browning.

With this being said, not all of them are bad. I’ve had some early (2008) FN’s that shot exceptionally well.

Not to hijack the thread but I would love to take one of the shinier post ‘64 long action push-feed rifles and build it into a .284 Winchester. A nicer synthetic stock, 24” sporter tube with deep throat and a faster 1-7 or 1-8 twist. Put a good timney trigger set at 3 lbs and load the Hornady 162 and 175 grain ELDX out to 3.150-3.200” OAL. I have always felt like Winchester’s .284 would be just as if not more popular than the 7mm-08 if the ignorant sacks would’ve added it to the Model 70 lineup.

I bet that would be an accurate Model 70!