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A lot of fan boys that like to sound in the know.

Have had 1 rifle that had to be switched during a hunt due to a bolt handle not working. The smith that fixed the model 70 said he’s seen almost as many 70 classics with bolt problems as 700’s.

Fan boys are a funny lot.

Also wore sneakers to my wedding.
I'd do both again.

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The truth of the matter is that 99% of the folks that slam Remington 700 rifles have more than likely never owned one. I've had dozens, maybe more, and if I were to buy a new rifle today, that's what I'd buy. Have they had some issues..........sure, I've had a bolt handle fall off, and a trigger go bad, but given the immense number of 700's that have been made, the odds say that some are going to be faulty.......just like any other product that man has ever made. I've seen a new Winchester 94 that was covered in rust so bad that it was practically worthless. I've seen a new Ruger 10-22, arguably the best semi-auto 22 rifle ever made, have a magazine that wouldn't stay in. I had a new Mossberg shotgun that had a safety that would freeze up. Chit happens, and that's just the way it is.

Yup. All day, every day.

Why is it only Remington doing this? Because only Remington had the defective Walker trigger, which they refused to fix until the bean counters made them.

Remington should be wincing from their poor decision-making. Stupid should hurt. And Remington acted stupidly about their Walker trigger.

Glad Timney got the business. They are not ashamed of their Christian faith.

Talking about stupid while thinking the trigger was defective is hilarious.

That trigger suffered from one thing, and that was fiddle factor. That's it.

To be clear, I'm a Timney fan, I just wouldn't want to pay a premium price for a rifle to include a Timney model that won't adjust to my meet my own requirements. How many others out there right now offer upgraded triggers over yesteryear's models that also include some method of adjusting the pull weight? Several.

Many hunters likely will be happy with a clean, non-adjustable 3.5lb Timney factory-installed for some extra $$$, I just happen to not be one of them. I want the ability to adjust down to the low 2lb range if I'm paying more than $50 for a trigger upgrade. If the rifle price only goes up $50 due to this new Timney, that's fine, as a guy can likely flip them for close to that on the used market.

As big of a Remington fan as I am, I have to say this……I had a trigger fail on a Model 7 that I bought new. Don’t know why it did, as I didn’t look into the issue any further, I just immediately replaced it with a Timney. I believe there were some problems and they were mostly due to people messing with the trigger. But it wasn’t all operator error.

Trigger is the last thing I'd worry about in a rifle. Pop out 2 pins and replace it. Big deal. Maching and squaring the action to the barrel is my deal. Put a trigger tech in a caddy ass wompus barreled action and you ain't got nothing. You can put a trued up barreled action in a 2x4 with a 12 pound trigger and get better results. Remington has done this with the rar models. Talked with a smith who was gonna blueprint one. He said his tool barely touched the receiver. Both lugs were at like 85 percent too. Said the rem actions now blow the old stuff away. So a trigger? Buy a gun, and if you want the 1/2 Oz trigger to hunt in minus 10 degree weather or whatever, then go aftermarket and grab a TT.

Going to guess that Timney gave them a deal on a non adjustable trigger.


It needed to be flushed out with a rem oil and then blown out with compressed air occasionally.

Hmmm... what's with what looks like 2-inch recoil pads on the CDL's when the chamberings only go up to 300 WM?

Did they have a bunch of short LOP stocks left over from the prior bunch that they then corrected with thick spacers?

The BDL's don't show that, only the CDL's.

those were the ugliest damn rifles.

Plumbum said, "Remington should be wincing from their poor decision-making. Stupid should hurt. And Remington acted stupidly about their Walker trigger."

IIRC, Remington didn't change the trigger because the change would have cost five cents more to slightly modify the Walker trigger to make it safe. I think Remington has made how many rifles with the Walker trigger, Seven million plus? A 7,000,000 rifles at five cents a pop, it would have cost "Big R" $350.000 in the long run, figure maybe another $100,000 tops allowing for cost of living increases. Chump change when one considers what the law suits cost them.

The only Remingtons having bolt handles come off were on those IIRC 588s. At least I think that was the model number. I think that when I was working with a gunsmith back in the late 70s and early 80s before he passed that we averaged about three or four a year of them having the bolt handles come off. A happening due to idiots and way too hot handloads most of the time. I have three M700, BDL 30-06, and two Classics, a 30-06 and .35 Whelen, and have never had a problem in any way, shape or form. On the other hand, my Remington M660 in .308 had trigger problems fixed by Remington and the extractor gave up the ghost after about 5,000 rounds of mostly cast bullet fun loads. Probably 20 percent of the ammo run through it was full power hunting load but the rest were definitely on the lighter side.

I might give one of the new Remingtons a try if they ever bring one out in either 7x57 or .280 Rem. A BDL, CDL or Classic would be just fine.
PJ

I don't know what they were thinking but I totally agree with you. NO way to fix it unless you wanted a shorter LOP.

If they would use the old 660 style that was adjustable and had the
Ultra Light style bolt locking safety, I'd be very interested.


Tikka, still has my focus.
Quality, good trigger. Safety locked.

Safety locks the bolt.

Last is controversial, I like 'em locked.

Pass on both.

With so many different companies in the rifle game now that offer more than what Remington will be offering at the same price point it will be hard for Remington to compete. Especially with the bad reputation they have gotten in the past several years. It’ll be interesting to see if they can pull through this with the Model 700. I own a bunch of Remington 700 actions and do hope they will make it. With that being said most hunters will be content with a non adjustable Timney trigger. I wouldn’t be one of them though.

Stock Rem 700 trigger is one component that I always replace on Rem 700 rifles when I purchase them. Always replaced with a Timney. The move to outsource Timney triggers and nicer composite stocks (AG Composites?) means that I may give Rem Arms a closer look in the future. At least it appears they are trying to clean up the mess.

I believe the AG composite stocks are only on the Alpha model, not the regular 700s, with pricing something like $1,700.

It's taken 'em HOW MANY YEARS to realize their triggers are horsebleep??? HELLO???