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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Swamptard,

I reckon it plum flattering,that so much of your day concerns me and you may want to add some punctuation. Oooopsie! Too late. Hint.

Please continue with your Hurt Feeler Reports,Conspiracy Theories and Insecurities. I'm your shoulder to cry on. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
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Swamptard,

You are welcome to your Homoerotic Fantasies and I am VERY "surprised" that you think of me,more than you do anything else...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Keep taking it to "the man",while you rattle Pom-Pom's and fill out Hurt Feeler Reports,as opportunity to climb out of yet another closet. Your VERY Tender Feelers REALLY matter to me. Have you considered holding your breath,as you Hissy your Fit? Might be a REAL game "changer" for you,as you point trembling fingers. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............


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Dammit Stick, I respected you .... believing that you were a Constitutional Patriot ! but you're a common mindless Amerikaner JABRONI !

For fks sake man ...... WTF ? ......


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Swamptard,

The World is a big place and I'm happy to let others do as they see fit. Nobody was taken by train to Auschwitz,no heads were lopped off and it's a VERY First World "problem",to work as you please,where you please,for wages you agree to. I wish I was fhuqking TENDER enough,that such things upset my cart...yet alas and I'm at a great loss to feel your immense pain. Hint.

Keep thinking about me and the punctuation will come naturally. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............


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Originally Posted by filmjunkie4ever
What real world difference can I expect between these two bullets?

Standard .270 Winchester loaded to 2900-2950 fps, wanting to setup a longer range load for shooting out to 600 yards absolute max. Mule deer and the occasional antelope, sheep and elk.

My rifle is a Browning BBR with 24” standard sporter barrel 1-10” twist rate.

Like the .500+ B.C.’s of these bullets. The trajectory of the 145 ELDX factory loads is within 1” of drop and 100 fps of velocity with that of the 6.5 PRC 143 grain ELDX factory load clear out to 500 yards.

Opinions please.
Your twist rate of 1 in 10 isn't fast enough to use the 150 LRAB and get both stability and maximum b.c. The 145 ELD-X may therefore be better in your situation. Alternatively, the 140 grain Berger Classic Hunter at .528 G1 can be driven faster and performs well at longer ranges and is accurate and reasonably priced. I shot a large bull elk at over 300 yards with the 143 6.5 ELD-X and it still ran over 300 yards before being dead. 8 twist in a .270 looks like being the future and opens more doors for better b.c. bullets.

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Originally Posted by Dre
I’m more concerned about bullet holding together at close range on elk vs inches of drop at 500 yards.
I have most of my kills at under 100 yards than 500+ yards .


Why the fuqk are you posting on the Long Range Hunting Forum then?


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Originally Posted by Riflehunter
[quote=filmjunkie4ever]What real world difference can I expect between these two bullets?

I shot a large bull elk at over 300 yards with the 143 6.5 ELD-X and it still ran over 300 yards before being dead. 8 twist in a .270 looks like being the future and opens more doors for better b.c. bullets.

Like to know - where did the bullet enter, travel, damage done, and did it exit? Thanks.

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The Delusions start behind her crossed eyes and travel through her pointy head. Hint.

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by Dre
I’m more concerned about bullet holding together at close range on elk vs inches of drop at 500 yards.
I have most of my kills at under 100 yards than 500+ yards .


Why the fuqk are you posting on the Long Range Hunting Forum then?

Because I fuqking am, That’s why.
I practice for long range but sometimes the elk come out closer than anticipated. To me, knowing I can stretch out my bullet or bust through a shoulder with out having the bullet disintegrating is comforting.


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Originally Posted by Riflehunter
[quote=filmjunkie4ever]What real world difference can I expect between these two bullets?

I shot a large bull elk at over 300 yards with the 143 6.5 ELD-X and it still ran over 300 yards before being dead. 8 twist in a .270 looks like being the future and opens more doors for better b.c. bullets.

Like to know - where did the bullet enter, travel, damage done, and did it exit? Thanks.
Into the shoulder, deflection into the lung, destroyed the lung but didn't exit. Didn't find the bullet. No fault of the bullet, it performed very good. Just that elk full of hormones can be tough.

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Originally Posted by Dre
I’m more concerned about bullet holding together at close range on elk vs inches of drop at 500 yards.
I have most of my kills at under 100 yards than 500+ yards .
Don’t poke it in the ass then it won’t matter

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.[/quote] Your twist rate of 1 in 10 isn't fast enough to use the 150 LRAB and get both stability and maximum b.c.[/quote]

I respectfully disagree. I have fired this bullet in my rifle as well as other .270’s with a 1-10” twist with no stability issues.

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Originally Posted by filmjunkie4ever
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Your twist rate of 1 in 10 isn't fast enough to use the 150 LRAB and get both stability and maximum b.c.[/quote]

I respectfully disagree. I have fired this bullet in my rifle as well as other .270’s with a 1-10” twist with no stability issues.[/quote]

I think what he meant is the bullets are marginal in some places lower in elevation and the 10 twists lose a bit of the BC since a faster twist spins them up and fully stabilizes them.

I’ve had a few 270’s shoot them well as well and when they shoot they are decent. But I think to reap all you could a bit faster gun gets all there is to be had.


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The 150's BC is Imaginary to start with and then when coupled with 10" rotational velocity at 270 Win lineal speed,the gross compilation is running on fumes. Add atmospherics into the equation and it's multiple uphill battles and WELL shy of the billing,as plainly cited prior. None of which is subjective. Hint.

I'd b curious to know the scope utilized to steer same? Hint..............


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Originally Posted by Riflehunter
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[quote=filmjunkie4ever]What real world difference can I expect between these two bullets?

I shot a large bull elk at over 300 yards with the 143 6.5 ELD-X and it still ran over 300 yards before being dead. 8 twist in a .270 looks like being the future and opens more doors for better b.c. bullets.

Like to know - where did the bullet enter, travel, damage done, and did it exit? Thanks.
Into the shoulder, deflection into the lung, destroyed the lung but didn't exit. Didn't find the bullet. No fault of the bullet, it performed very good. Just that elk full of hormones can be tough.

Tough indeed. Glad you recovered it. Thanks for the info.

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First of, you likely won't be able to buy any ABLR as they have about 2 machines and have to schedule different bullets months in advance. IF you did find any, they're 3 times the price of the Hornady.
On top of that. I found they flat out lied about the BC on those long- rangers. No, i wouldn't set out to develope a load with something so over priced, over hyped and under produced as a Nosler bullet


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I have had good luck with the 145 Eldx on deer.

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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
First of, you likely won't be able to buy any ABLR as they have about 2 machines and have to schedule different bullets months in advance. IF you did find any, they're 3 times the price of the Hornady.
On top of that. I found they flat out lied about the BC on those long- rangers. No, i wouldn't set out to develope a load with something so over priced, over hyped and under produced as a Nosler bullet
I do tend to trust Berger, Sierra and now Hornady with their b.c. figures more than some of the other bullet makers. I got stung years ago with Nosler 140 AB in .270, buying lots, doing load development...only to find that they had significantly over-stated the b.c., which they then revised. And of course NO COMPENSATION. And Speer's b.c.'s...I wonder how they are arrived at!

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Always use a BC app and look at the “Litz” numbers. Those are real


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Originally Posted by Riflehunter
Originally Posted by dennisinaz
First of, you likely won't be able to buy any ABLR as they have about 2 machines and have to schedule different bullets months in advance. IF you did find any, they're 3 times the price of the Hornady.
On top of that. I found they flat out lied about the BC on those long- rangers. No, i wouldn't set out to develope a load with something so over priced, over hyped and under produced as a Nosler bullet
I do tend to trust Berger, Sierra and now Hornady with their b.c. figures more than some of the other bullet makers. I got stung years ago with Nosler 140 AB in .270, buying lots, doing load development...only to find that they had significantly over-stated the b.c., which they then revised. And of course NO COMPENSATION. And Speer's b.c.'s...I wonder how they are arrived at!

I would think a 140AB would be a great all around load, but must say back in the 90s, I ran 150 BTs almost exclusively, never let me down.

They looked like a mini-ICBM to me......dropped a nice 8pt WT one am, he jumped about 3 steps......another DRT.....

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