Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Winchester Collectors .220 Swift - Why don’t they?

With SALAMI adoption of the 224 Speedmire,the Swift is deader than fhuqk. Hint.

A 18" 223 AR,will outpace a 26" 77V Swift,UGLY style. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

You can't just put on a fast twist barrel on a Swift and run the heavier high b.c. projectiles. The throat is too long on a standard reamer for the loaded round to fit in most short actions. Try loading a 75 grain ELD-M to touch the lands and COAL is about 2.89-2.90" which means you need a 3" magazine to run 5 in the mag. A Remington 700 SA with a long mag or a Winchester Model 70 CRF short action are fine. The case dimensions also could do with some improving such as blowing out the shoulder a bit more on the Swift case, put a 30 degree shoulder on it pivoting at the shoulder/case body junction and shorten the case slightly but keep the long neck, grind off the rim like on the parent case 6mm Lee Navy so that you have a Grendel size boltface, cut a deeper extractor groove. Same capacity as the Creedmoor, but you would fit an extra round in the mag over the .22 Creedmoor.

so why not barrel it on a long action and you won't have to deal with ANY of those problems.... even with an 88 gr ELDM..

You would still have the case stretching, a semi-rimmed case, the boat-tail on the 75's is still a bit further up the neck than I would like because of the long throat.

A .22-243 Middlestead will outperform the .22 Creedmoor.

SniffleKchunt,

You are Pretending aloud(again)...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Feel free to dangle pics of "your" Imaginary wares. I'm looking forward to the Excuses. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!................

The .22-243 Middlestead will run around 100 fps faster than the .22 Creedmoor using the same length barrel and same powder (H4831sc) with the 75 grain bullet. In a 24" barrel you're looking at around 3450 fps v 3350 fps for your accuracy load. I wouldn't want a .22 Creedmoor when the .22-243 Middlestead is so much better and feeds better too.

SniffleKchunt,

You're Pretending aloud and have never seen or shot ANY of it...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

I only have (5) 224 Speedmires,have been around multiple Middledreads and have a coupla CHeetah's. Not counting 22-250AI's. Hint.

Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................

About the same ballistically, but the Swift's name doesn't sound dull like the .22-250. Sort of like the 7x61 Sharpe & Hart Magnum as opposed to the bland 7mm Remington Magnum, but they're the same from a performace standpoint. Just a different perspective on rifle cartridges.

100 fps difference is 100 fps difference, which is not the same.

Never had a varmint care one way or another about 100 fps faster.

I've always wanted a Swift, just becasue the name is cool. Always wanted a 222, also. I like the name "Triple Deuce".

But, never took the plunge with either. The 22-250 and the 223 are more practical.

That's because you can't speak varmint! If you could, they would tell you that they fear a .220 Swift more than a .22-250.

Maybe, but then you never got what you really wanted.

I'd call 100 fps splitting hairs, certainly, but I'm with you - haven't had a .22-250 in a good while, but I've had a Swift for a long time.