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I am considering building a 308 as an all weather do all beat around rifle with great parts.

I have a defiance rebel SA action (GAP Templar)
Badger M5 dbm

I am thinking about tripping the DBM for aluminum BDL or Hawkins Hunter. Stainless #3 or #4SS fluted. Around 20 inches. 22 inches max.

Hung up on the stock. I have several McMillan Edges and want more comb height. I'll probably mount a 50mm scope as low as possible. If they make a straight or reverse comb pattern with edge fill I would be all over it. Never tried the manners or other McMillan options. Remington and Kimber patterns fit me well.

I am thinking I would like it to be 8-8.5 all up.

Thoughts? Examples of similar builds?

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Waypoint 6 Kreed wearing S/S spout. Hint.

Thank me later.

Just sayin'.............................


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Waypoint 6 Kreed wearing S/S spout. Hint.

Thank me later.

Just sayin'.............................

Over the WP 6.5 CM for all around?


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Waypoint 6 Kreed wearing S/S spout. Hint.

Thank me later.

Just sayin'.............................

Over the WP 6.5 CM for all around?
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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Waypoint 6 Kreed wearing S/S spout. Hint.

Thank me later.

Just sayin'.............................


No doubt the waypoint is a nice rifle, but I have an action that is begging to get spun up. I like a 308 on this one. Primary box blind type rifle with majority of shots inside 400yds.

I want it short, well balanced and handy.

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I have lotsa 308's,264 Kreed's and Seex Kreed's. Hint.

The Waypoint in .243" is simply fhuqking spectacular. If only to the chagrin of Brokedicks and their GoogleFu. Hint.

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I'm happy with a fast twist 223 wayyyyyyyy beyond 400yds and have LOTS of them too. Blind,ADL and AICS fed all,same as the 308's,264 Kreeds and Seex Kreeds. 7" twist Montucky there,with a mag shim slide there,for the win. Hint.

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Originally Posted by CBB15
I am considering building a 308 as an all weather do all beat around rifle with great parts.

I have a defiance rebel SA action (GAP Templar)
Badger M5 dbm

I am thinking about tripping the DBM for aluminum BDL or Hawkins Hunter. Stainless #3 or #4SS fluted. Around 20 inches. 22 inches max.

Hung up on the stock. I have several McMillan Edges and want more comb height. I'll probably mount a 50mm scope as low as possible. If they make a straight or reverse comb pattern with edge fill I would be all over it. Never tried the manners or other McMillan options. Remington and Kimber patterns fit me well.

I am thinking I would like it to be 8-8.5 all up.

Thoughts? Examples of similar builds?

I'm using a Mesa Precision Altitude on a similar rifle. Tenacity action, Proof 20" .308 carbon prefit, Hawkins Hunter M5, Def rail, SWFA 6x, and low rings. It's a handy rifle.

The Altitude stock has a high enough comb to work with most scopes. The rail and low (.82") rings give plenty of clearance with a 42mm obj. Link to stock:

https://redhawkrifles.com/mesa-precision-arms-altitude-carbon-fiber-stock-remington-700/

The rifle:

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JCM - that's a fine piece you've got there.

Good intel on the stock too - I hadn't considered that one before.


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Sounds familiar. Fluted #4 Krieger. Hint.................

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JC and Stick where are those rifles weighing in?
I want to stay with a standard SS bbl. Kreiger 4 grove is my preference if I can get one.

What are the specs on the mesa barrel channel? I only see sporter and varmint options.

Disregard on the bbl channel specs. I see one can order with specifications...

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Hint.

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Pass the Waypoint. Hint...............


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T3 ceracoated sporter in 308, 20” barrel, sporter stock modified to take CTR bottom metal and CTR mags and with a cheek rest swiped off of a CTR stock. SWFA 6x MQ in Sportsmatch rings, ASR brake.

May put a LPVO on it, we’ll see.

The cheek rest makes a material positive difference in scope alignment with my eye.

My “General Purpose Rifle.”

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Waypoint 6 Kreed wearing S/S spout. Hint.

Thank me later.

Just sayin'.............................

Does Springfield make their own receivers? I see now that Proof offers pre-fits for Waypoints so they must be spec'ed pretty tight!

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When faced with the same question, this is what I came up with:
Defiance Tenacity, Proof at 20", McMillan Game Hunter, Hawkins M5 Hunter DBM.

Soon to be wearing ARC rings.

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Pacnor barrel in Remington magnum contour. It’s just chopped off at 20-1/2”. Balances perfect in the McMillan HTG stock. I like BDL or ADL bottoms. Slick and sleek for me. Never cared for a video cassette style mag.

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gunnut308, that rifle is about perfect, congrats. You might be surprised how much you might like the Hawkins Hunter DBMs. I wasn't a fan of any DBM until I tried the Hawkins Hunter, now I have three and wouldn't consider a BDL at this stage in my life. Keeping a loaded spare mag in my hunting kit is a great way to keep ammo in the field and makes for a very fast reload if such a thing becomes necessary.

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The Waypoint does indeed wear a Custom action. The 1913 rail is pinned in place,the recoil lug is integral,bolt handles are threaded,double port gas protection and the side bolt release is a nice touch. Hint.

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AICS binderless mags for me,all the way. Hint.

The HTG is a rather poor stock design,with Dog Schit ergo's and an exceedingly low comb and I suffer more than a "few". Hint.

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Pass the Waypoint and hold The Fluff. Hint.

Just sayin'...........................


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The Waypoint certainly does seem to be done "right".

Not even a dab of steel-bed in that lug recess? Must shoot well enough to leave it be.


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
The Waypoint does indeed wear a Custom action. The 1913 rail is pinned in place,the recoil lug is integral,bolt handles are threaded,double port gas protection and the side bolt release is a nice touch. Hint.

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AICS binderless mags for me,all the way. Hint.

The HTG is a rather poor stock design,with Dog Schit ergo's and an exceedingly low comb and I suffer more than a "few". Hint.

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Pass the Waypoint and hold The Fluff. Hint.

Just sayin'...........................

Do you know if Springfield makes the action? Keeping them to headspace tolerance of +/- .001″ or thereabouts for pre-fits is impressive.

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Nice rig you have there gunnut308…..👍

Here is what I came up with…

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Rem 700
Bartlien #19, 10 twist……installed by Shaen
McM Hunter stock
PT&G Oberndorf bottom metal
Timney trigger
Nightforce 3-10 SHV in Talleys

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