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Originally Posted by Dess
I wonder what rare critters live there that nobody cared about until now....

I hope it's a bunch. Lithium mining poisons the earth under and around it, and it requires vast areas of drying ponds. mad


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
There is nothing and no-one anywhere near this McDermitt deposit who will be bothered.

Nope.

It will just wipe out the deer, antelope, chukar, and sagehen and poison the ground there permanently.


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So, you like the jet fuel for safari? The pickup to haul your iron to the airport? The iron itself? Finely machined using the best cutting fluids? The finest Missouri lead projectiles? Gas to go hunt chukars? All of that comes from holes in the ground, none apparently in YOUR backyard, luvver.

A big pile of lithium within US borders is a BFD in terms of geostrategic resources. But I'd bet money there will be at least one variety of milkvetch to hang the whole thing on the ESA.


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Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
McDermitt NV/OR. It's a town of 500 that's split by the NV/OR state line. 75% Indians. They've just discovered what might be the world's biggest lithium deposit just west of town in what's called the McDermitt Cauldera. It's an ancient volcano basin, all on BLM land. LINK

So, what will happen? For starters, all the environmentalists will fight tooth and nail to prevent it being mined. They want EV's but don't want us to make batteries for them.
Next, assuming that a mine opens, there will be lots of miners. McDermitt isn't exactly the social center of either NV or OR. It's about as lost as any town in the US. I think there are only 2 or 3 motels. It will soon be home to a bunch of new brothels and casinos, at least on the NV side of town. I can guarantee that the NV side will grow a lot faster than the OR side. There's a similar situation in Wendover NV/UT. The NV side with casinos is a well to do community. The UT side is poverty.

All that's years down the road, though. First there will be years of court battles and government regulations to go through.
Speaking of EVs - you really don't want to drive one out there without a generator trailer. The charging locations are few and far between.


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Mining once again destroys good places in NV. This is one of my chukar hunting spots.

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Don’t be a NIMBY. There’s still lots of good places to hunt chuckars in NV. You just gotta know where.

Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
There is nothing and no-one anywhere near this McDermitt deposit who will be bothered.

Nope.

It will just wipe out the deer, antelope, chukar, and sagehen and poison the ground there permanently.

Oh bullshit. Been hearing that since the AK pipeline. Guess where all the Caribou hang out? Right next to the pipeline.


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I am betting that the biden crime family will follow their instructions from China, and ban all mining.


Or, sell it to them.
Hillary will act as agent, she has experience selling our assets to enemies.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I wonder if the company who gets the contract will conduct drug tests. I'd really hate to work around heavy equipment operated by dopers.
Would you work around heavy equipment operated by alkies?


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Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
McDermitt NV/OR. It's a town of 500 that's split by the NV/OR state line. 75% Indians. They've just discovered what might be the world's biggest lithium deposit just west of town in what's called the McDermitt Cauldera. It's an ancient volcano basin, all on BLM land. LINK

So, what will happen? For starters, all the environmentalists will fight tooth and nail to prevent it being mined. They want EV's but don't want us to make batteries for them.
Next, assuming that a mine opens, there will be lots of miners. McDermitt isn't exactly the social center of either NV or OR. It's about as lost as any town in the US. I think there are only 2 or 3 motels. It will soon be home to a bunch of new brothels and casinos, at least on the NV side of town. I can guarantee that the NV side will grow a lot faster than the OR side. There's a similar situation in Wendover NV/UT. The NV side with casinos is a well to do community. The UT side is poverty.

All that's years down the road, though. First there will be years of court battles and government regulations to go through.
Speaking of EVs - you really don't want to drive one out there without a generator trailer. The charging locations are few and far between.


DOUBLEFUKKK! mad

Mining once again destroys good places in NV. This is one of my chukar hunting spots.

GD I hate big mining!

Don’t be a NIMBY. There’s still lots of good places to hunt chuckars in NV. You just gotta know where.

Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
There is nothing and no-one anywhere near this McDermitt deposit who will be bothered.

Nope.

It will just wipe out the deer, antelope, chukar, and sagehen and poison the ground there permanently.

Oh bullshit. Been hearing that since the AK pipeline. Guess where all the Caribou hang out? Right next to the pipeline.

You are too clueless to compare apples and oranges. The pipeline isn't thousands of acres of evaporation ponds and the top layer of the soil scraped off.

I'm a native Nevadan and know about where to hunt. Mining in general is decimating those places. It's a fact. No matter. In 150-200 years it will heal up.


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Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
McDermitt NV/OR. It's a town of 500 that's split by the NV/OR state line. 75% Indians. They've just discovered what might be the world's biggest lithium deposit just west of town in what's called the McDermitt Cauldera. It's an ancient volcano basin, all on BLM land. LINK

So, what will happen? For starters, all the environmentalists will fight tooth and nail to prevent it being mined. They want EV's but don't want us to make batteries for them.
Next, assuming that a mine opens, there will be lots of miners. McDermitt isn't exactly the social center of either NV or OR. It's about as lost as any town in the US. I think there are only 2 or 3 motels. It will soon be home to a bunch of new brothels and casinos, at least on the NV side of town. I can guarantee that the NV side will grow a lot faster than the OR side. There's a similar situation in Wendover NV/UT. The NV side with casinos is a well to do community. The UT side is poverty.

All that's years down the road, though. First there will be years of court battles and government regulations to go through.
Speaking of EVs - you really don't want to drive one out there without a generator trailer. The charging locations are few and far between.


DOUBLEFUKKK! mad

Mining once again destroys good places in NV. This is one of my chukar hunting spots.

GD I hate big mining!

Don’t be a NIMBY. There’s still lots of good places to hunt chuckars in NV. You just gotta know where.

Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
There is nothing and no-one anywhere near this McDermitt deposit who will be bothered.

Nope.

It will just wipe out the deer, antelope, chukar, and sagehen and poison the ground there permanently.

Oh bullshit. Been hearing that since the AK pipeline. Guess where all the Caribou hang out? Right next to the pipeline.

You are too clueless to compare apples and oranges. The pipeline isn't thousands of acres of evaporation ponds and the top layer of the soil scraped off.

I'm a native Nevadan and know about where to hunt. Mining in general is decimating those places. It's a fact. No matter. In 150-200 years it will heal up.

Yeah well guess what, I have lived there myself, worked in the industry, and hunted there too. I actually permitted and did the environmental compliance for Barrick you clueless ass. I also did the reclamation work at these places. I personally oversaw the vegetation population pre and post mining and there’s standards with all of it that have to be met. The only part you are correct about is that during mining, there isn’t wildlife hanging out in the active areas. That’s quite by accident I’m sure.

I’ve met a lot of folks like you through the years. Here you are posting away with with the products of mining, including the lithium in your cell phone. You don’t have the faintest idea where anything came from. Meat comes from the supermarket, right? If you’re a NV native, you’re from Clark county or Reno no doubt. The active footprint of mining in the state is less than 1% of the area within the state. Yet, you would have us believe that is decimating the wildlife? LOL.

I’m feeling generous so will help you with your chukar quest. Go find any number of springs along the foothills in the Great Basin. There you will also find chuckars, muleys, etc. BTW, the problem with sage grouse isn’t mining. It’s predation on their nests by mainly ravens.


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It's on the Reservation. That means the indians are going to want a piece of the pie , or oppose it all together.


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Originally Posted by SupFoo
Let me guess.

Hunter Biden and Harry Reid own all the private property in a 100 mile radius. Bought it all two years ago on a "hunch".
Jesus man, it's like you have a crystal ball or sumpin.

SupFoo can connect the dots


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Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
McDermitt NV/OR. It's a town of 500 that's split by the NV/OR state line. 75% Indians. They've just discovered what might be the world's biggest lithium deposit just west of town in what's called the McDermitt Cauldera. It's an ancient volcano basin, all on BLM land. LINK

So, what will happen? For starters, all the environmentalists will fight tooth and nail to prevent it being mined. They want EV's but don't want us to make batteries for them.
Next, assuming that a mine opens, there will be lots of miners. McDermitt isn't exactly the social center of either NV or OR. It's about as lost as any town in the US. I think there are only 2 or 3 motels. It will soon be home to a bunch of new brothels and casinos, at least on the NV side of town. I can guarantee that the NV side will grow a lot faster than the OR side. There's a similar situation in Wendover NV/UT. The NV side with casinos is a well to do community. The UT side is poverty.

All that's years down the road, though. First there will be years of court battles and government regulations to go through.
Speaking of EVs - you really don't want to drive one out there without a generator trailer. The charging locations are few and far between.


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Mining once again destroys good places in NV. This is one of my chukar hunting spots.

GD I hate big mining!

Don’t be a NIMBY. There’s still lots of good places to hunt chuckars in NV. You just gotta know where.

Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
There is nothing and no-one anywhere near this McDermitt deposit who will be bothered.

Nope.

It will just wipe out the deer, antelope, chukar, and sagehen and poison the ground there permanently.

Oh bullshit. Been hearing that since the AK pipeline. Guess where all the Caribou hang out? Right next to the pipeline.

There are no good places to hunt chukars or Mt Goats. It's all up and down. wink

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I can't come out against mining, too much of what supports civilization comes from mining, but I could feel a lot better about the Thacker Pass discovery if the whole premise of it wasn't based on a false narrative...the need for EV's to save the planet. Looks like sodium ion batteries are destined to make lithium obsolete in a few years anyway.
I am probably one of the few guys on here that has been over Thacker Pass going to and from Kings River...if you do have to trash a piece of real estate for waste rock, I'd say Thacker is as good a place as any. Anyway, the amended reclamation plan is proposing backfilling the pit with the spoils as they go. I think the proposed settling ponds will turn out to be a boon to wildlife in the long term.
If anybody was concerned about the Quinn River Valley or the Kings River Valley staying in a native state, they should have shut down the alfalfa industry long ago. By the way, the Injuns don't own Thacker Pass, it is BLM.


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Originally Posted by ihookem
It's on the Reservation. That means the indians are going to want a piece of the pie , or oppose it all together.
It's not on the res but the Indians call it a sacred site. To them, any place where they don't want whites becomes sacred. Their sacred land is everything between the Pacific and Atlantic and between Canada and Mexico - if they can get a way with it.

The article I read earlier made it sound like a new discovery. Apparently that's not true. Most of the permitting has already been done and construction has started. It's owned (or leased) by Lithium Nevada Corp.
LINK


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@flintlock - I will be the first to say mining shouldn’t be universally allowed everywhere. But McDermitt certainly isn’t what one would consider prime real estate! We should, however, be self-sufficient regarding our natural resources just from a strategic standpoint alone and environmentally ready too. Our great leaders, however, have basically made it nearly impossible to get anything done. Trump certainly did a good job of turning up BLM and they were better for a time. This administration though, they would rather have things produced in third-world sheetholes with zero environmental protections than here where we have strong environmental protections and standards. The standards aren’t the problem. It’s the government bureaucrats who sit on things and deny them, not for scientific reasons, but for political purposes. Then there’s the environmental wackos who actually get paid by the government when they sue as a backup. There’s no repercussions either. Your only remedy is through the courts - 9th Circus.


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McDermitt is owned by the Mormon Crickets i believe . ( sounds like a baseball franchise)

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I wonder if the company who gets the contract will conduct drug tests. I'd really hate to work around heavy equipment operated by dopers.
Would you work around heavy equipment operated by alkies?

Tweakers do it with speed!


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Originally Posted by ihookem
It's on the Reservation. That means the indians are going to want a piece of the pie , or oppose it all together.
It's not on the res but the Indians call it a sacred site. To them, any place where they don't want whites becomes sacred. Their sacred land is everything between the Pacific and Atlantic and between Canada and Mexico - if they can get a way with it.

The article I read earlier made it sound like a new discovery. Apparently that's not true. Most of the permitting has already been done and construction has started. It's owned (or leased) by Lithium Nevada Corp.
LINK

Thanks for the link. I’m absolutely sure a thorough Bugs and bunnies study was conducted as well as an archaeological review as part of their EIS. As you mention, the tribe hasn’t been properly bought off so are against it.


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I am betting that the biden crime family will follow their instructions from China, and ban all mining.


Or, sell it to them.
Hillary will act as agent, she has experience selling our assets to enemies.
But her specialty is uranium. What does she know about lithium.

Hmm…

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She might not understand lithium but you can be sure she understands money and coverups.


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I wonder if the company who gets the contract will conduct drug tests. I'd really hate to work around heavy equipment operated by dopers.
Would you work around heavy equipment operated by alkies?


Who, that has worked around heavy equipment, hasn't?







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