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Morning my friend, I see your light is on and hope the night cooled off up there too.

Before I head out to tune up the roof sprinklers, I'll offer a couple thoughts if I may.

Your assessment of how the Chinese community is influenced by the United Front is correct as far as everything that I've been told by community members, LEO, etc.

The Sikh fellows that I worked with for years were a real education for me on a number of levels.

Family is a big deal with them which I can respect, but it was interesting that if the "family business" was criminal activity, that was all well and good. If it wasn't then it wasn't as well.

There were two brothers who I got to know fairly well, one is now an RCMP member and the other a Registered Care Aid.

They were quite open about a bunch of cultural stuff and honestly the only thing that they suggested the South Asian Sikh community might agree on was that they were not fond of Muslims, as in not one little bit.

The events of how India and Pakistan were formed were still front and center to them for sure.

Anyways, that's just a tiny sampling for sure and nothing more than that.

Well up on the roof I go sir, I hope neither of us needs these contraptions this year.

Have a good one.

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Canada does not have enough people for such vast territory to fend off a traditional ground forces attack from a country like China which seems to have an endless population they could ship anywhere they wanted. Thankfully the USA has enough people with guns that we could hold them off IMHO. Lack of ammo in the hands of the front line fighters would be a problem in my estimation (this is why everyone should shoot 308 :-) )!

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Dwayne....Be very cautious of extending invites to southern riff raff...with in-laws, outlaws and assorted friends scattered from Lillooet to 100 Mile House, anything could happen.


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The Pacific is a big ocean . The US Navy has some pretty good fast attack subs. I don't expect to see the PLA in landing craft any time soon.


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Originally Posted by 257Bob
Canada does not have enough people for such vast territory to fend off a traditional ground forces attack from a country like China which seems to have an endless population they could ship anywhere they wanted. Thankfully the USA has enough people with guns that we could hold them off IMHO. Lack of ammo in the hands of the front line fighters would be a problem in my estimation (this is why everyone should shoot 308 :-) )!

True that 257Bob our population is approximately 39.50 million people and we have a larger land mass than the USA. China's population is 1,425,887,337 billion people, they could swamp us and destroy us in a blink of an eye.


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So the Chinks don't have to invade, they already have.


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The first Chinese came into BC at the same time as the frist Americans, during the Fraser River gold rush.


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OK, so admitting that I haven't read nearly all the Posts here. But to address an early predicate. "Land invasion by China. Taiwan, yes definitely. Rapid & strong with effort of preserving as much infrastructure possible! The U.S. or Canada, just No! Not realistic strategically or tactically! The great battles of the future are likely to be nuclear accident as the amount of hardware and capabilities, statistically great from rogue nations such as #1, N. Korea. Otherwise... Great battles, economic! The greatest, by definition "most advanced" nations, speaking technologically"! That equals "Infrastructure". The "victory" as a balanced attack upon tech capabilities. To cripple an enemy as holding "the keys" to restoration, under conditions.
As far as U.S. assistance, under NATO flag, many 'assisters". The united front. We're leveraging with "sanctions" foreign foe attacks. The less high tech, the less sanctions working. The more resilient the sanctioned nation citizens ability to endure, the lesser effect and greater length of sanctions necessary. Scraping off the gloss of Russian infrastructure reveals largely 30+ year old yet "Sovietische" wares. Cannons are the excellent example of doing more with an "S" Pot full of them substituting for 20% high tech capability doing 50% more damage! Foreign interventional assistance with 'high tech' warfare is the political, logistic, and residual resources question. Invading a neighboring nation, can be done 'on foot'. Hardly, high tech. But WWII era tech yet functioning trucks
can 'make it work'. Proximity of little consequence to high tech warfare becomes highly relevant when fighting Great War trench warfare. A warfare no high tech nation is really well equipped to "address". The overkill of weapons in environs where small village civilians... Western forces not likely to participate in another Hiroshima! (Righteous by my view of circumstances then -but not justifiably repeated,)

Right now, Canada's biggest battlefield seems to be never ending fire! We in the US, with our own 'same problems' our limited tech deployed. Beyond, despite more comic differences than harmful in any context, of course 'us' to stand by Canada! Naturally! But Taiwan is the next great battle ground re China and right now, China is on the verge of Depression predicated on a failed nationwide real estate market infrastructure. Our great mutual weapon with Canada and other mostly EU nations, is to revamp our entire relationship with China. The world's second largest economy and if Western world to meet East in Korea, Japan, China grand aggregate, the whole world to benefit.

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Originally Posted by downwindtracker2
The first Chinese came into BC at the same time as the frist Americans, during the Fraser River gold rush.
Give the devils their due...they did a lot of the grunt work hacking "The Great Wagon Road" into the sheer cliff walls of the Fraser...and later the railroad. If you haven't seen it, you can't appreciate it. But with Chinese labor contractors being what they were...life was cheap.
The Chinese labor gangs hacking the US transcontinental railroad over the Sierras in the mid 1860's were considered expendable. What caused the hard feelings, was no provision to send them home when the job was done. They settled in dense hives in San Francisco, and typhus and bubonic plague set in, along with opium and slavery...hence the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.
I see some parallels developing down here now with unrestricted 3rd world immigration, the resurgence of diseases that the medical community thought to be eradicated are popping up, slavery or indentured servitude, child trafficking, gangs. It seems commonwealth countries embrace multi culturalism...and it sounds compassionate and good...but for myself, living in a state where WASP's have been a minority for a decade, we now have to think ahead and consider where we can go safely, do we need to be armed, is it smart to avoid interaction with some minorities, do we need to avoid gas stations and rest stops in the wee hours, is it safe to ask a heavily accented minority to repeat themselves...it's not fun.
Example, although I have lived in Calif for donkeys years, I've never been to LA. So I planned a looping nostalgic rail journey...but on Amtrak I had to change railroads in LA which involved a bus transfer in a bad part. But the booking lady without me asking said...Don't worry, we have security guards on each bus..so I drew the conclusion the train stations were in a rough area. A journey not taken..not fear, just why bother. Nothing to do with CA defense, sorry guys.


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A lot of Chinese died building the railroad in Canada, especially in BC and Alberta, dangerous work for very little pay.


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They don't make chinks the way they used to, not a commie, good...commie=bad

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I suspect something like this would be waiting on every hill where the topography presents itself, which is everywhere in BC, hope they dock here.
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I’m certainly not informed as to our technical and specific obligations outside of the fact that we are “one” in solidarity should you guys get attacked…without any delay we are to respond and repel the “attack”. I don’t think China would attack Canada and leave us untouched anyway. 😀

My grandpa was born in Canada and spent his childhood riding his horse all over Ontario until WWII. He wanted to be a US citizen since he spent 9 months every year with family in the US after his mom died and dad left. He got his citizenship after being called out of a foxhole at Fort Dix and then by rail to Ontario whereupon he surrendered his Canadian passport and received his new American passport. He was being sent to the bulge and wanted to be a US citizen since grandma was a US citizen.

I have a very strong affinity for our northern neighbors and if we’re going to spend anything in a sh.ithole like Ukraine we’ll sink or swim together AGAINST ANYONE!


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The diseases that the Chinese suffered were NO DIFFERENT than the diseases EVERYONE else suffered. The opium was THEIR drug that had a deleterious affect on the Whites introduced to it, not the other way around! Life was no picnic in 1890’s China and the potential of getting rich enticed millions of all colors, nationalities and backgrounds from all over the world. This was the New World being opened to the old and it didn’t take much to find people who came seeking fortune only to be swindled and abused. It’s easier to catch a wild animal when they run in herds and the Chinese “herded up” together so that the decision, good or bad that effected the “group”, was made by the leader or (elder), was monolithic in its success or failure. The Chinese didn’t strike out INDIVIDUALLY as often as others….for a myriad of reasons.

Life was tough back then and there’s a long line of people with grievances but in the end the strong prosper and the weak die!….even more so if you worked in the 1890’s railroads and mines. 😉


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PS…..They DID manage to gain traction because they were strong, industrious and hard working and for the next 100 years dominated the laundry business and dry cleaning as well as owning all the opium dens on the west coast. 😉


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Even if Canada were at our WWII levels, China would still beat us.


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Having homestead land in Alaska... it's nice to have good neighbors North and South.
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